{"id":37731,"date":"2025-09-23T01:54:09","date_gmt":"2025-09-23T01:54:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/37731\/"},"modified":"2025-09-23T01:54:09","modified_gmt":"2025-09-23T01:54:09","slug":"scale-ai-launches-seal-showdown-an-alternative-to-lmarena-leaderboard","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/37731\/","title":{"rendered":"Scale AI launches Seal Showdown, an alternative to LMArena leaderboard"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the years since <a href=\"https:\/\/mashable.com\/article\/what-is-chatgpt\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">OpenAI launched ChatGPT to the world<\/a>, kicking off the generative AI boom, developers have relied on LMArena (previously Chatbot Arena) as the default AI leaderboard. Now, Scale AI is bringing some much-needed competition to the AI benchmarking space with its new Seal Showdown benchmarking tool.<\/p>\n<p>Like LMAerna, Seal Showdown allows users to test various AI models head-to-head and vote on which one performs better. However, Scale AI says that unlike LMAerna, Seal Showdown will more closely reflect how everyday users feel about various models. In an X post, Scale CEO Jason Droege said that Seal Showdown &#8220;actually captures real preferences, powered by a platform used by real people.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>    <a class=\"text-gray-600\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jdroege\/status\/1970141784060854460\" title=\"(Opens in a new tab) (opens in a new window)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"><br \/>\n        This Tweet is currently unavailable. It might be loading or has been removed.<br \/>\n    <\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Most benchmarks rely on synthetic tests (coding puzzles, math problems) or feedback from a small slice of people,&#8221; said Scale AI\u2019s head of product, Janie Gu, <a href=\"https:\/\/scale.com\/blog\/showdown\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">in a blog post<\/a>. &#8220;They miss the full spectrum of how real people actually use models in their daily lives. By treating diverse users as a monolith and lumping all feedback into one generalized score, critical nuance is lost.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Scale AI <a href=\"https:\/\/scale.com\/blog\/leaderboard\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">launched its Safety, Evaluations, and Alignment Lab (SEAL) leaderboards<\/a> last year, but these leaderboards relied on expert evaluations. Now, ScaleAI will offer leaderboards based on user testing, offering an alternative to the LMArena.<\/p>\n<p>The startup says its <a href=\"https:\/\/scale.com\/showdown\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">new benchmarking tool<\/a> is based on real-world use and feedback from &#8220;users spanning over 100 countries, 70 languages, and 200 professional domains.&#8221; (The company also provided the precise <a href=\"https:\/\/scale.com\/assets\/SEAL_Showdown_Tech_Report.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">methodology for Seal Showdown<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>\n            Mashable Light Speed\n        <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Showdown introduces something never before seen in public leaderboards: rich user segmentation,&#8221; Gu wrote in the blog post announcing the project. &#8220;Because rankings are derived from conversations that contributors have on Scale\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/x.com\/jdroege\/status\/1970141784060854460\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow\">Outlier<\/a> platform, Scale is able to verify each user\u2019s country, education level, profession, language, and age \u2014 enabling anyone to see how models perform for people like them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Because of this demographic information, Scale AI will be able to show which models are most popular according to specific regions, languages, ages, or use cases.<\/p>\n<p>The criticism that Scale AI has with existing leaderboards is that they \u201crely heavily on hobbyist participation\u201d and that current rankings are \u201cbased on a narrow group of users and their interests,\u201d which leads to a misrepresentation of how those LLMs perform in general use. <\/p>\n<p>LMArena has also been criticized for bias against open models. Critics say that LMArena&#8217;s system favors frontier models from big AI companies like Google, xAI, and OpenAI. However, Scale AI&#8217;s solution may not be ideal, either. The initial leaderboard results overwhelmingly rank GPT-5 the highest, which may merely reflect user preference rather than objective performance.<\/p>\n<p>The updated SEAL leaderboards <a href=\"https:\/\/scale.com\/showdown\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">are live now<\/a>. Currently, GPT-5 tops all of the benchmark categories, a stark contrast <a href=\"https:\/\/lmarena.ai\/leaderboard\/text-to-video\" target=\"_blank\" data-ga-click=\"1\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" data-ga-item=\"text-link\" data-ga-module=\"content_body\" title=\"(opens in a new window)\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">to LMArena<\/a>, where Google&#8217;s Gemini 2.5 Pro, 2.5 Flash, and Veo 3 lead most of the leaderboard categories.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Disclosure: Ziff Davis, Mashable\u2019s parent company, in April filed a lawsuit against OpenAI, alleging it infringed Ziff Davis copyrights in training and operating its AI systems.<\/p>\n<p>\n        Topics<br \/>\n                    <a class=\"underline-link hover:no-underline text-secondary-300 mr-1.5\" href=\"https:\/\/mashable.com\/category\/artificial-intelligence\" aria-label=\"Navigate to the Artificial Intelligence tag\" data-ga-click=\"\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Artificial Intelligence<\/a><br \/>\n                    <a class=\"underline-link hover:no-underline text-secondary-300 \" href=\"https:\/\/mashable.com\/category\/openai\" aria-label=\"Navigate to the OpenAI tag\" data-ga-click=\"\" data-ga-label=\"$text\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">OpenAI<\/a>\n            <\/p>\n<p>                            <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In the years since OpenAI launched ChatGPT to the world, kicking off the generative AI boom, developers have&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":37732,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[365,363,364,111,139,69,145],"class_list":["post-37731","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37731","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37731"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37731\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/37732"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37731"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37731"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37731"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}