{"id":402880,"date":"2026-04-29T07:19:14","date_gmt":"2026-04-29T07:19:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/402880\/"},"modified":"2026-04-29T07:19:14","modified_gmt":"2026-04-29T07:19:14","slug":"how-blondie-was-born-i-walked-into-the-apartment-and-there-was-debbie-harry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/402880\/","title":{"rendered":"How Blondie was born \u2014 \u2018I walked into the apartment and there was Debbie Harry\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"60673685-025a-42b7-ab9c-00f12f7f1547\">I spent my childhood in New Jersey looking across the bay at New York as this shining beacon but I arrived in the early 1970s to find a city on life support. New York was literally crumbling around us. Businesses were abandoned. The people with the means had escaped to the suburbs, leaving the streets piled high with garbage \u2014 still it was incredibly exciting to me and my friends.<\/p>\n<p id=\"60b2821a-ca50-44c6-9089-54a9ca8ef1fc\">There were a lot of illicit after-hours clubs springing up. Here-today, gone-next week drinking dens and gambling clubs, open from the early\u00a0hours of the morning until the following afternoon, creating a mob service industry around all of it. Club 82 used to be run by the wife of the mobster Vito Genovese and you were always aware of the mobster undercurrent, especially after dark. There were enforcers, guys in sharkskin suits hassling club owners for their weekly protection money, and guys wheeling trollies of hijacked booze from the street down to the bar, like something out of a Scorsese film. Add the drug trade into the mix and a bunch of glam rock kids hankering for a baggie of pills to see them through till dawn, and it was obvious our world and theirs were sometimes closer than we imagined.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"d38df80d-3c89-431f-9fc6-3331a56a3ed2\">The cast of characters at Club 82 was vast and constantly evolving.\u00a0Some nights you\u2019d run into Jeff Starship from the band Sniper (Jeff, of course, was later known as Joey Ramone), Lenny Kaye, Thomas Erdelyi (soon to become Tommy Ramone), the Neon Boys\u2019 Richard Hell and Tom Verlaine, Elda Stiletto, some guy called Chris Stein, a girl called Debbie Harry, and a hundred others who\u2019d go on to find some level of infamy. If you had a sharp eye, you might catch sight of Lou Reed, Bryan Ferry, or even Bowie. People who were gods in our eyes, but who\u2019d yet to make it in the straight world.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   height=\"3749\" width=\"5418\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/9c187562-7016-45d5-a464-88140e66f63d.jpg\" alt=\"Clem Burke of Blondie playing the drums during the recording of a pop promo for their single 'Picture This'.\" class=\"wp-image-21874464\"\/>Clem Burke during a 1978 promo shoot for \u201cPicture This\u201d at Isleworth Studios, LondonBrian Cooke\/GETTY IMAGES<\/p>\n<p id=\"6a0effd5-7f22-456e-b5b2-aaeb2cf9f90b\">On March 10, 1975, a small advertisement in the Musicians\u00a0Wanted section of the\u00a0Village Voice\u00a0caught my eye. It read:\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"e16fa89b-f64b-483d-b40b-15f9f810b4c9\">Freak energy Musical Experienced drummer needed female fronted estab. working NYC rock band. Excell oppty. money. Fun. Call NOW 925-0531\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"91cdce39-e72f-447a-820e-20e7d83e562b\">Arriving for my interview, I was surprised to find that the band in need of a drummer was, in fact, two familiar faces from Club 82.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"cc8e8348-4eb2-460f-a50b-2bcefe240e8f\">Debbie, the singer, was a Jersey girl who\u2019d transplanted to\u00a0NYC in the 1960s. As I pulled up a chair, she remarked on my red shoes, so I give my choice of footwear a lot of credit for me getting in the band. The guitarist, Chris, was Brooklyn born and bred. He rarely rose from his seat the whole time I was there. He was in a state of constant repose, idly strumming his guitar as we spoke. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   height=\"3341\" width=\"5000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/f5324a2d-5dfd-43c8-aafb-625fcb3c8274.jpg\" alt=\"Members of the New York punk band Blondie posing on the roof of The Record Plant.\" class=\"wp-image-21874463\"\/>Blondie on the roof of the Record Plant, at the height of their late-70s riseAlamy<\/p>\n<p id=\"9763c12e-1b63-4bfc-a54f-8fb69c7885bf\">Even at first glance, Debbie\u00a0had all these facets to her, all vying for your attention. There was a touch of Warhol cool, a sprinkling of Marilyn Monroe\u2019s vulnerability, a bit of Jean Harlow platinum blonde Hollywood chic all in the mix, combined with her easy beatnik charm and intelligence. I knew right away she was destined to be a star. She was basically a star already. It would just take the world a couple of years to catch on.<\/p>\n<p id=\"32ee6edc-4963-4328-93e5-d83c7a9c115d\">Home for Debbie and Chris was an apartment on Thompson Street in\u00a0New York\u2019s SoHo district, with a bathtub in the kitchen, old-school tenement style, that also served as a counter when it was covered. Sometimes, when I came over, Chris would be sitting in the bathtub holding court.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"0f9fd3de-c68a-45b8-8f35-b7876054a127\">It was unusual for New Yorkers to\u00a0have cars at the time, but Debbie had this beat-up Camaro she used as a runaround. To avoid having it towed away by the city, she had to wake up at dawn and wait for the alternative side of the street parking to come into effect and move the car to the other side of the street for the next 24 hours. That was every day except Wednesdays, when the city just shrugged and let you park your car wherever.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"32275e70-3650-484d-af68-e42ea5550662\">One of the first places we\u00a0played together was deep in the belly of the Financial District, nowadays known as FiDi. The place was called Whyte\u2019s Pub, where Debbie had a part-time job as a bikini bartender. She pulled a favour with the owners and persuaded them to throw a couple of hundred dollars our way for an afternoon\u2019s work. Whyte\u2019s was a watering hole for the Wall Street crowd\u2014 stockbrokers and speculators. Looking out on the audience, it was a sea of grey flannel suits and Egyptian cotton shirts. It wasn\u2019t quite\u00a0American Psycho\u00a0exactly, but you got a glimpse into that detached stockbroker, art dealer mindset. They weren\u2019t our people, but we played there a few times.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   height=\"2172\" width=\"2583\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/18292445-bd59-4fb2-858a-89998f3cd9ab.jpg\" alt=\"Photo of Blondie performing at CBGB's.\" class=\"wp-image-21874462\"\/>Harry with Blondie bandmates Gary Valentine, Burke and Chris Stein at CBGBRoberta Bayley\/GETTY IMAGES\/Redferns<\/p>\n<p id=\"e0517d55-7f1d-4c0c-b30a-999c64067dee\">We\u2019d taxied up with our gear, Debbie would change out of her bikini and into something a bit more appropriate, and we\u2019d play happy hour between 5 and 6pm. We were playing a lot of covers, songs by the Shangri-Las, Lady Marmalade by LaBelle, and Martha and the Vandellas\u2019 Heatwave. I don\u2019t know that anyone was paying much attention to us. Probably, we were just background music, while these guys tried to seduce the waitresses or waited for their coke dealer to arrive.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"d2974926-8865-4d3c-9c25-d475f0975e2b\">One thing Debbie and Chris had going for them was they had a few\u00a0connections around town, particularly in terms of the underground club scene in Lower Manhattan. Crucially, they knew Hilly Kristal, the man behind CBGB. Hilly, in my opinion, needs to be in the Rock and &amp; Roll Hall of Fame, for obvious reasons.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"ce329824-e444-4ac0-8d7a-52b628886b97\">He had some history booking cabaret acts, and his vision for CBGB was as an Americana venue \u2014 the initials CBGB stood for Country, Bluegrass, and Blues \u2014 so right from the start, Hilly was catering for a broad spectrum of music fans. I think that\u2019s why he opened his doors to people like us. So long as you weren\u2019t playing covers, he didn\u2019t care what you played.<\/p>\n<p id=\"725006df-04d5-4f36-85bb-21e0aff0feb6\">A few months down the line the place became ground zero for the Ramones, Television, Blondie, Patti Smith, and Talking Heads. Hilly conceded to the growing presence of a real scene by building a bigger stage and putting in a new sound system, with the help of Brian Eno.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   height=\"2443\" width=\"3016\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/00feedfd-4c33-4874-ac74-ac1bbd35cfa3.jpg\" alt=\"Fans stand outside the CBGB rock and roll nightclub in New York City.\" class=\"wp-image-21874461\"\/>Fans gather outside CBGB on its final night, New York, August 31, 2005Alamy\/UPI Photo\/Ezio Petersen<\/p>\n<p id=\"d2e1bdda-7d2b-47eb-97a7-69ae54a1c4e1\">In contrast to what happened with the British punk movement, where the Sex Pistols were catapulted to fame, and then overnight, a hundred copycat bands followed in their wake, none of the core NYC bands had much in common musically. It was more like a shared sensibility. We were drawing from a diverse range of influences, trying to figure out what kind of bands we were going to become. CBGB was like a band workshop. Everyone playing a couple of nights, or a few nights straight, gradually honing their craft, while the world outside the Bowery went about its business.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"cd3b4663-d981-478d-9a99-90b61057584e\">Everyone\u00a0speaks about CBGB as a very glamorous place, but in truth, it wasn\u2019t. In a lot of respects, CBGB was a dump, but it transcended that.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"90056b78-792b-425b-8bc5-13ec1375caee\">It was our little secret, and the coolest place to\u00a0workshop all these great songs we were coming up with.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"5d1a7a75-ef86-4d2d-92ed-e0f22de580c0\">The place was set up like a folk club or\u00a0cabaret, with candles flickering on little round tables and waitress service. The audience was mostly made up of people from other bands, mostly rock and roll guys and very few women in attendance. Certainly, there was no mania \u2014 it was all very laid-back and cosy.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   height=\"2849\" width=\"2835\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/18d4b01f-a6b0-4054-ba7c-09e4967c57b2.jpg\" alt=\"Debbie Harry and Clem Burke performing with a Premier drum kit on the set of the &quot;Heart of Glass&quot; video shoot.\" class=\"wp-image-21874460\"\/>Harry and Burke during the Heart of Glass video shootRoberta Bayley\/Getty IMAGES<\/p>\n<p id=\"ded6f4c8-4e72-48e0-872a-9824aad83017\">You\u00a0were free to make mistakes in public, with no consequences. At the time, the US was in its worst recession since the Wall Street crash of 1929 and New York was so debt-ridden, it was defaulting on its payments. Outside the rarefied air of Upper East Side Manhattan, New York was being slowly driven into the ground. Every week, some public sector workers went on strike for better pay or conditions, so even when things were working, nothing really worked right. On the Bowery, it was even worse \u2014 skid row essentially.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"8d616e2c-f862-44dc-bf1f-cb88abdb3489\">Like the rest of the area, CBGB was grubby and neglected.\u00a0An unassuming place to start a revolution when you stop and think about it. You\u2019d never have guessed by looking at the place that it would become such a phenomenon. Still, for us and the other bands in the city, there was nothing else going on, so we congregated there out of necessity. The club was at the east end of Bleecker Street on the Bowery, amid soup kitchens and broken-down walk-up apartments. Everywhere you walked, alcoholics and derelicts were staggering around or huddled in doorways, living rough on the streets, drinking whatever they could lay their hands on. Just a bunch of lost, tortured people with no place else to go.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"   height=\"5176\" width=\"3466\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/52875b0e-6d97-4f11-a118-dd96128759e3.jpg\" alt=\"Clem Burke of Blondie, circa 1979, wearing a bright blue jacket and colorful striped tie.\" class=\"wp-image-21874466\"\/>Burke in the late1970s Maureen Donaldson\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p id=\"79ca1e2e-b978-4c84-b4a8-41953a7cd80a\">Right above CBGB\u00a0was the Palace Hotel, an old flophouse where you could share a bed with a cockroach or two for as little as $2.85 per night. Broken men, home from the war and entirely discarded by society, were scattered around the streets and back alleys, a step away from sex workers and hustlers. Sometimes, these locals seemed confused to find us in their neighborhood, but I think they got used to us hanging around, spilling out from CBGB and drinking beer on the sidewalk. Not all of them, of course. You had to watch out for disgruntled drunks dropping empty liquor bottles out of the Palace Hotel windows onto the curb below whenever we got too rowdy outside.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"e196c501-fdc5-4b1b-b35f-ede7c580d30c\">Even so, the sociopolitical backdrop to\u00a0what was happening in New York and the wider world was just subtext to our lives. Poverty wasn\u2019t an issue because we weren\u2019t concerned with money. We didn\u2019t need money to do what we were doing. If we got hungry, we\u2019d pick up a bodega cheese sandwich for maybe 25 cents, and that would sustain us until our next adventure. In a perverse way, the city being at such a low point was a good thing. The fact that New York was seen as this rotten apple of day-to-day disrepair and misery acted as a catalyst and helped to lift us up. If anything, we thrived in that environment. It wasn\u2019t money that got me out of bed every day. What was driving me was the energy of the city. Being on the scene and being around those bands. It was about the music.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p id=\"2a87aecd-ceaf-45b5-a132-ca4650d77989\">Extracted from The Other Side of the Dream by Clem Burke (HarperCollins \u00a325). To order a copy go to <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/timesbookshop.co.uk\/the-other-side-of-the-dream-9780008695514\/?utm_source=timesandsundaytimes&amp;utm_medium=online&amp;utm_campaign=weekly\">timesbookshop.co.uk<\/a>. Free UK standard P&amp;P on orders over \u00a325. Special discount available for Times+ members. 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