{"id":416269,"date":"2026-05-07T13:08:09","date_gmt":"2026-05-07T13:08:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/416269\/"},"modified":"2026-05-07T13:08:09","modified_gmt":"2026-05-07T13:08:09","slug":"abbey-caves-coronial-hearing-questions-whangarei-district-councils-role-after-death-of-karnin-petera","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/416269\/","title":{"rendered":"Abbey Caves coronial hearing questions Whang\u0101rei District Council\u2019s role after death of Karnin Petera"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Multiple witnesses have given evidence over the tragedy, which involved a Whang\u0101rei Boys\u2019 High School excursion into Abbey Caves while an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/abbey-caves-tragedy-inquest-probes-metservice-alerts-and-caving-decisions\/IYAMNVC5O5ESBD2H5RSP7I2RDI\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/abbey-caves-tragedy-inquest-probes-metservice-alerts-and-caving-decisions\/IYAMNVC5O5ESBD2H5RSP7I2RDI\/\">orange weather warning<\/a> was in place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The group of 17 students got into trouble as water rapidly rose and Karnin  lost his life in Organ Cave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The Abbey Caves reserve was originally settled in the 1860s by Nathaniel and Amelia Clotworthy, who built a homestead near the limestone formations. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Traces of that early settlement remain today, including the remnants of the homestead chimney. The site was reportedly named after their \u201cIrish Abbey\u201d style house burnt down in 1920.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The reserve holds two historic burial sites: A marked grave for one of the Clotworthy children, who died in 1884, and an unmarked grave believed to belong to a McDonald child from a nearby gum\u2011diggers\u2019 camp in the late 1800s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">In the 20th century, Golden Bay Cement Company acquired the land to mine  limestone for cement production.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">When the company sold the property to the council in 1989, the land was gazetted as a scenic reserve, recognising its natural and historical significance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">As the landowner, the council is responsible for clearly identifying hazards to users. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Only certain groups are required to apply for an adventure activities permit to enter the caves: Those using them for a commercial  purpose who are registered with WorkSafe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Schools do not need to apply and the council representative said they have never had any organisation apply for a permit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Following the incident, the council undertook a review of the signage and warnings in place for the caves, which included two signs on site and information on the council website.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The signage said the caves were prone to flooding, in particular Ivy Cave, with no mention of Organ Cave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">In 2021, a parks ranger expressed concerns about the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/abbey-cave-inquest-focuses-on-ignored-metservice-orange-heavy-rain-warnings\/22PVBBPG3BEYPFTMGWFIH4ND3Y\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/abbey-cave-inquest-focuses-on-ignored-metservice-orange-heavy-rain-warnings\/22PVBBPG3BEYPFTMGWFIH4ND3Y\/\">hazards of the caves<\/a> and the website was updated and an internal policy drafted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The council worker said the council had no control over who entered the site and despite knowing the caves were prone to flooding, did not collect any data on when or how.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cOur duty was to inform about the hazards. People entering the caves need to do their risk assessments.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">References were made to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/topic\/white-island\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/topic\/white-island\/\">Whakaari White Island<\/a> tragedy, which similarly drew questions around WorkSafe responsibility.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The worker was asked whether the council had any awareness that when the caves are in use by a school group, they technically become a workplace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">She responded that in light of the Whakaari findings, the Whang\u0101rei council was reconsidering  its position.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">She said at the time of May 9, 2023, the council\u2019s responsibility was only to keep information up to date.<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"The council placed the caves under a r\u0101hui. Photo \/ RNZ\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>The council placed the caves under a r\u0101hui. Photo \/ RNZ<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Since the tragedy, the site has been under a r\u0101hui and all caves have been blocked with barriers to prevent people entering.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Karnin Petera\u2019s parents, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/northern-advocate\/news\/abbey-cave-tragedy-whanau-of-karnin-petera-thank-the-world-for-kindness-after-caving-tragedy\/ZUKHEFVURFDKBJT65YKGVDSEQM\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/northern-advocate\/news\/abbey-cave-tragedy-whanau-of-karnin-petera-thank-the-world-for-kindness-after-caving-tragedy\/ZUKHEFVURFDKBJT65YKGVDSEQM\/\">Alicia Toki and Andre Petera<\/a>, have expressed several times their support of permanently closing the caves to the public or guided tours being the only other option.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Wider consultation\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The council representative said they support the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/abbey-caves-death-rahui-in-whangarei-could-be-extended-as-wider-debate-on-access-continues\/VBP7C7IVCNCLTMMRGCKCJLVLG4\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/nz\/abbey-caves-death-rahui-in-whangarei-could-be-extended-as-wider-debate-on-access-continues\/VBP7C7IVCNCLTMMRGCKCJLVLG4\/\">current r\u0101hui<\/a> and are working with wider iwi and hap\u016b on the future of the caves.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">She said they were awaiting the final recommendations from the coroner to move forward with decision-making on any reopening.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIt does need wider consultation with many hap\u016b of the area who traditionally have a vested interest in the caves. We would look at increasing some safety requirements in the future, potentially look at increasing safety signage. But the opening of the caves is not for the council about the safety aspects, it\u2019s about being concerned about the cultural aspects.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The council representative also said she would like to see a caving expert give advice, guidance and expertise on the caves along with robust processes put in place identifying hazards. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">She said this may also include future permit applicants providing emergency contingency plans to enter the site.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">As the hearing concluded, Coroner Ho had some final words for those who had participated in, and sat through the hearing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI hope that some of the questions you have had have been answered and that you have heard and perhaps better understand the reasons why some of the decisions that were made were made.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Coroner Ho said when the findings are released, some witnesses may find there is \u201cadverse comment\u201d about their decision-making.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI\u2019m not in a position today to say whether there will or will not be adverse comment, but I do want to emphasise that as part of the court process, questions are asked from counsel and by me, positions are taken, and the fact that those questions have been asked or positions taken shouldn\u2019t be construed in your mind to think that it will land one way or the other.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I thank you Karnin\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Throughout the hearing, many of the witnesses described the impact Karnin Petera\u2019s death and the lessons learned.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">As the assistant involved in the trip wrapped up his evidence, he had some parting words for the court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cAlthough I didn\u2019t know Karnin, I have since felt a deep connection with him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cFor a long time afterwards, the notes on my guitar were for him alone, a conversation sad and apologetic until eventually, he let me move on.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cKarnin often reminds me to appreciate this life and to do important things. I have long been fascinated with M\u0101ori culture and I place great importance on the messages or tohu [signs] that the natural world presents to me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe had a fantail enter our whare the day the inquiry started and it\u2019s been coming in every day. I hold all my kids tighter now and I thank you, Karnin, for that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">The coroner\u2019s findings and recommendations will be released later in the year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wrLLDwyWye\" style=\"display:none\">Shannon Pitman is a Whang\u0101rei-based reporter for Open Justice covering courts in the Te Tai Tokerau region. She is of Ng\u0101puhi\/ Ng\u0101ti P\u016bkenga descent and has worked in digital media for the past five years. 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