{"id":435016,"date":"2026-05-19T12:49:20","date_gmt":"2026-05-19T12:49:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/435016\/"},"modified":"2026-05-19T12:49:20","modified_gmt":"2026-05-19T12:49:20","slug":"slashing-public-sector-jobs-the-right-move-new-zealand-initiative-says-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/435016\/","title":{"rendered":"Slashing public sector jobs the right move, New Zealand Initiative says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/4KLCY9H_final_gov_cut_png\" width=\"1050\" height=\"656\" alt=\"Graphic of the Wellington beehive being cut by blue scissors\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\n<p>Photo: RNZ \/ Quin Tauetau\n<\/p>\n<p>The New Zealand Initiative is pleased with the government&#8217;s plan to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/595655\/nearly-9000-public-sector-jobs-to-go-government-agencies-to-merge-nicola-willis-announces\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">slash nearly 9000 public sector roles<\/a> over the next three years.<\/p>\n<p>The changes will see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/595596\/finance-minister-hints-at-government-department-amalgamation-plans\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">public service jobs<\/a> slashed by about 14 percent by 2029, in a shake-up the government says will deliver $2.4 billion of savings.<\/p>\n<p>There are currently just over 63,000 full-time public servants, which is a slight decrease under this coalition government from the high of approximately 65,000 in the 2024\/25 year.<\/p>\n<p>Oliver Hartwich, executive director of the public policy think tank, told RNZ it&#8217;s the right move.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The substance of the announcement is precisely right,&#8221; Hartwich said.<\/p>\n<p>Are you a public servant affected by these job cuts? Email  iwitness@rnz.co.nz<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have a public service that is way too complicated &#8211; we have 43 government departments and ministries, we have 82 ministerial portfolios and there is simply too much duplication in the system,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Hartwich said job cuts to the public sector were well overdue and once achieved, there should also be a reform of ministerial portfolios.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/4MTYOS2_image_crop_101264.jpeg\" width=\"1050\" height=\"656\" alt=\"Oliver Hartwich\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nThe New Zealand Initiative executive director Oliver Hartwich.<br \/>\nPhoto: Supplied\n<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In the end, the principle should be, as in practically every other country, there should be one minister with one ministerial portfolio, responsible for one government department,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>But Public Service Association national secretary Duane Leo called the plans an &#8220;act of wilful destruction&#8221; which would decimate crucial services.<\/p>\n<p>He called for the government to make clear which public services which serve New Zealanders every day would be cut as a result.<\/p>\n<p>He said AI could help support workers but rejected that AI could ever replace the human element of these services.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t automate a social worker visiting a vulnerable child. You cannot replace a biosecurity officer inspecting cargo at the border with a chatbot.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/4JODRJ8_Image_8_jfif.jpeg\" width=\"1050\" height=\"700\" alt=\"Finance Minister Nicola Willis and Public Service Minister Paul Goldsmith speak to media after a pre-Budget announcement on 19 May, 2026.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nFinance Minister Nicola Willis announced the cuts on Tuesday.<br \/>\nPhoto: RNZ \/ Marika Khabazi\n<\/p>\n<p>He accused the minister of using AI as a justification for job losses.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not genuine in terms of improving services.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He hit out at the plans calling them &#8220;chaos dressed as strategy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>He argued a merger would delay critical work, cost money and scare skilled workers overseas.<\/p>\n<p>On the streets of Wellington, some told RNZ the cuts were for the greater good.<\/p>\n<p>Gary Murdock said the government needed to make the cuts.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I do think it will help the economy. Its much better, I think, that people find more productive private sector work rather than being just paid by the government.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/1779168911_994_4JQI1V0_duane_leo_jpg.jpeg\" width=\"1050\" height=\"1313\" alt=\"Duane Leo, PSA National Secretary.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nPublic Service Association national secretary Duane Leo.<br \/>\nPhoto: Supplied\n<\/p>\n<p>Michael Phelps &#8211; not the swimmer &#8211; also felt it was a sacrifice the country needed.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We probably have to have some cuts because the country just can&#8217;t afford to keep going the way it is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He believed previous governments had employed too many public servants.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If we can&#8217;t afford to have the public servants that we&#8217;ve got, then we&#8217;ve got to cut back on some of them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Others were worried about the cuts and the impact they could have.<\/p>\n<p>Martin Brown said: &#8220;I&#8217;m quite disappointed with this government&#8217;s attitude to cutting a service without thinking about any of the ramifications.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He felt the government hadn&#8217;t thought the decision through, questioning how it will create jobs for these people.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They just chuck them all out and then see what happens.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/4JODPQD_Image_17_jfif.jpeg\" width=\"1050\" height=\"700\" alt=\"Wellington Mayor Andrew Little speaks to media after the government announced further cuts to public service jobs on 19 May, 2026.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nWellington mayor Andrew Little.<br \/>\nPhoto: RNZ \/ Samuel Rillstone\n<\/p>\n<p>Wellington mayor Andrew Little said the cuts were &#8220;naturally&#8221; going to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/595667\/watch-wellington-mayor-andrew-little-says-public-sector-job-cuts-will-cause-anxiety\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cause anxiety for Wellingtonians<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Little said it was important to wait for more details to come out to learn the significance of the cuts.<\/p>\n<p>Although he remained optimistic given the rest of Willis&#8217; announcement centred on the government&#8217;s plans to use tech &#8211; and AI &#8211; more.<\/p>\n<p>Little said Wellington had a strong tech sector and if the government wanted to partner with tech companies &#8211; Wellington was the city for it.<\/p>\n<p>Victoria University senior lecturer in artificial intelligence Dr Andrew Lensen told Checkpoint that in it&#8217;s current form there was no way AI could replace thousands of public servants, and it was naive of the government to see it as a silver bullet.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If we want to use AI in the public sector, then we have to do some really good investigations into how to use it and do some good testing. We can&#8217;t simply drop it in and hope it solves our issues.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There were a variety of tasks AI could take on, such as document management, better searching and indexing, ways to help people find information in their jobs, and automating some decisions, Lensen said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/4K1LSM0_Dr_Andrew_Lensen_JPG.jpeg\" width=\"1050\" height=\"787\" alt=\"Dr Andrew Lensen, senior lecturer in AI and programme director of AI at Victoria University of Wellington against a background of snowcapped mountains.\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\">\nDr Andrew Lensen, senior lecturer in AI and programme director of AI at Victoria University of Wellington<br \/>\nPhoto: RNZ \/ Claire Concannon\n<\/p>\n<p>A well thought out strategic implementation would come at a cost, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You have to find the right tools. You can&#8217;t simply just turn Copilot on and call it a day, we have to look at how it&#8217;s used, and that may involve more bespoke solutions, different types of AI.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a lot more complex than I think the Minister&#8217;s been making out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He disputed the finance minister&#8217;s claim that New Zealand was lagging behind on AI.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think we are a pragmatic country and we can see that a lot of the hype around AI has been driven by offshore interests and may not actually benefit us entirely in its current form.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think being cautious is a better way of framing it because if we want to see the benefits of technology, we can&#8217;t simply just gung-ho deploy it and hope for the best, we need to be a lot more conscious and learn from the mistakes we&#8217;ve seen overseas so that we get the best out of it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>More research, time and investment was needed, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We need to have an environment that allows people to experiment and see what works without compromising public safety or the public service itself.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It will take time, but I think it&#8217;s better to be a little bit slower and make sure that we are doing the best for New Zealanders than to rush into it to save a few bucks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He said AI was not able to emulate human decision making, and aside from issues such as unconscious bias, he did not think it was appropriate for a &#8220;purely mechanistic approach to decision making when it comes to the very things that pull us together as a nation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/radionz.us6.list-manage.com\/subscribe?u=211a938dcf3e634ba2427dde9&amp;id=b3d362e693\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up for Ng\u0101 Pitopito K\u014drero<\/a>, a daily newsletter curated by our editors and delivered straight to your inbox every weekday.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Photo: RNZ \/ Quin Tauetau The New Zealand Initiative is pleased with the government&#8217;s plan to slash nearly&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":29147,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[48,47,42,43,49,46,44,45,40,38,41,39],"class_list":["post-435016","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-headlines","tag-audio","tag-current-affairs","tag-headlines","tag-news","tag-podcasts","tag-public-radio","tag-radio-new-zealand","tag-rnz","tag-top-news","tag-top-stories","tag-topnews","tag-topstories"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/435016","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=435016"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/435016\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/29147"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=435016"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=435016"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=435016"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}