{"id":463673,"date":"2026-06-06T08:09:08","date_gmt":"2026-06-06T08:09:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/463673\/"},"modified":"2026-06-06T08:09:08","modified_gmt":"2026-06-06T08:09:08","slug":"pamela-rabe-i-find-wandering-up-and-down-the-aisles-of-officeworks-very-calming-stage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/463673\/","title":{"rendered":"Pamela Rabe: \u2018I find wandering up and down the aisles of Officeworks very calming\u2019 | Stage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Pamela Rabe emerges from theatre rehearsals where she is playing a strict Catholic nun, the actor seeking divine order from a grey late afternoon on the wharf above Sydney\u2019s Walsh Bay. \u201cDo we walk \u2013 in the rain?\u201d she asks crisply.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The clouds yield and the rain loses its nerve as the tall, formidable Rabe steps onto the steel balcony to pose with laser focus on the camera lens. Canadian-born Rabe first sought early career traction in Sydney in the late 1980s and early 90s to distinguish herself from her Melbourne acting milieu, where she was revered as an <a href=\"http:\/\/theatrenotes.blogspot.com\/2004\/08\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cactress with a capital A\u201d<\/a>, of whom a critic remarked, \u201cmakes strong [people] swallow hard and lesser mortals involuntarily bow\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Whether playing a sinister jail \u201cscrew\u201d in the television series <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/tv-and-radio\/australia-culture-blog\/2014\/may\/21\/wentworth-tv-review-new-season\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Wentworth<\/a> or a savage, sarcastic matriarch on stage in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/stage\/2024\/nov\/16\/august-osage-county-review-pamela-rabe-leads-stellar-cast-in-an-american-tragicomedy\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">August: Osage County<\/a>, Rabe leans into her imposing physicality. In person, she has a strong, charismatic presence coupled with a well-read, deadpan humour. As we wander the wooden piers towards the Harbour Bridge, I note we have lost the photographer and publicist. \u201cOh, I hope so,\u201d she says with a chuckle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Rabe, who lives with her theatre director husband, Roger Hodgman, on a semi-rural property outside Hobart, has been working steadily since migrating to Australia in 1983, most recently in Eamon Flack\u2019s challenging stage adaptation of the ecocide thriller novel <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/stage\/2026\/apr\/13\/drive-your-plow-over-the-bones-of-the-dead-review-play-theatre-belvoir-sydney\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead<\/a> at Sydney\u2019s Belvoir St theatre. Of the play\u2019s three-and-a-half hours, Rabe was responsible for perhaps 85% of the dialogue, playing a traumatised schoolteacher who mourns dead animals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI felt very proud of my brain,\u201d Rabe says, shutting her eyes, pinching her nose and waving one hand above her head. \u201cI\u2019m holding my nose, I dive in, and trust that [my] brain had put that somewhere that could be accessed, then articulated with feeling and hopefully sense. To realise that my brain could still do that at 67 was very heartening.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Rabe finds rhythm in her texts, likening the delivery of lines to a pianist or a violinist playing rapid-fire notes. She says the late neurologist Oliver Sacks is one of her favourite authors because he breaks down how we embody life experience to tell stories, notably how the ageing or amnesiac brain uses music as a bridge to memory.<\/p>\n<p>Rabe is rehearsing her role in Doubt: a Parable at the Sydney theatre company\u2019s building on the harbour. Photograph: Jessica Hromas\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">I suspect Rabe is too busy to mull too much on her own ageing. She remembers now the late Ruth Cracknell \u2013 \u201ca profound influence on my life\u201d \u2013 whom she met when they starred in the Neil Simon play <a href=\"https:\/\/melissabruce.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Lost-In-Yonkers-Prog_3.pdf\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Lost in Yonkers<\/a> in 1992. At the same time, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/culture\/2021\/mar\/08\/mother-and-son-the-great-australian-sitcom-is-a-masterclass-in-the-art-of-the-squabble\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cracknell was also playing the character of Maggie, who had early dementia, in the sitcom Mother and Son<\/a>. Cracknell was then 66, Rabe 33. \u201cShe was younger than I am now and she seemed ineffably old,\u201d Rabe muses.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Today, Rabe is stepping out from rehearsals for the role of the iron-handed head nun Sister Aloysius Beauvier in John Patrick Shanley\u2019s 2004 play <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sydneytheatre.com.au\/whats-on\/2026\/productions\/doubt-a-parable\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Doubt: A Parable<\/a>, set in 1964 at a Catholic church and school in the Bronx, New York, where Father Brendan Flynn (played by The Newsreader\u2019s Sam Reid) is accused of abusing an altar boy.<\/p>\n<p>double quotation markEveryone assumes I must have been Catholic because I have seven brothers and sisters &#8230; it was Canada \u2013 it was just cold<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Sister Aloysius clings to her self-perception as a moral guardian who can \u201csmoke out incipient danger\u201d, says Rabe, who sees resonances in this social media epoch when disagreements turn people into enemies. \u201cThe notion of \u2018you\u2019re either with me or against me\u2019 has very much permeated our modern social culture,\u201d she says. \u201cWe\u2019re all hardwired to want to know what\u2019s right and what\u2019s wrong. [Doubt] is an argument for sitting in uncertainty, and that\u2019s the most alive you can be.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Doubt, Rabe says, is \u201csomething we all battle with every day\u201d but suggests the tendency towards certainty pre-dates our social media era, recalling Americans responding to an earthquake on television decades ago. \u201cIt was like they\u2019d all prepared for the camera. They were confidently describing something in very manageable sound bites. America has been particularly groomed to produce this [certainty], which has become more a global standard of the way we should present ourselves to the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Rabe saw Audrey Hepburn in The Nun\u2019s Story when she was 12 and toyed with the idea of returning to the church, \u2018but then I realised it was just the costumes\u2019. Photograph: Jessica Hromas\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Ravenous capitalism meanwhile would undermine the Rabe family\u2019s own certainties. Faith had been important to Rabe\u2019s late mother, Reta, raised in a Presbyterian tradition in the central Canadian prairies. \u201cEveryone assumes I must have been Catholic because I have seven brothers and sisters,\u201d Rabe laughs. \u201cNo, no, it was Canada \u2013 it was just cold.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Reta had toyed with becoming a missionary, if not a nun. \u201cShe became disillusioned because we moved to the west coast of Canada, and we\u2019d always been very much a church-going family \u2013 just a Sunday service with our little white gloves on and dimes pressed into our hands to be put in the collection plate \u2013 but as she went to this new church, she felt that there was more interest in what financially could be brought into the congregation and to line and glam up the altar \u2026 she just went cold turkey, that was it: we weren\u2019t going to church any more.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">At 12, Rabe saw Audrey Hepburn play Sister Luke, who is assigned to work in the Congo, in the film <a href=\"https:\/\/www.americamagazine.org\/arts-culture\/2020\/01\/24\/nuns-story-revisiting-audrey-hepburns-most-overlooked-film\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">A Nun\u2019s Story<\/a>. Rabe says she went \u201cback into youth clubs at my church, thinking \u2018I need to investigate this more\u2019, but then I realised it was just the costumes\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">So where does her belief now sit? \u201cI think that\u2019s a very personal thing,\u201d she pauses. \u201cI constantly grapple with the question of, are we inherently good or are we inherently evil? Do we need to admit to original sin, and constantly be atoning for it and adhering to a belief system that anchors into constant guilt and constant apology and constant reflexive actions to do with inherent badness? The idea, down deep, there is great beauty in all humans, and we just need to find the circumstances to help people realise that \u2013 I grapple with that myself all the time and in the stories I\u2019m attempting to explore.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Rabe says she decompresses from her challenging acting roles by wandering through shopping malls. Photograph: Jessica Hromas\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Rabe makes a companionable storyteller, with a warm curiosity about her interlocutor\u2019s own career. As we walk along Pier 2\/3 now, the maritime radar across the harbour spinning in the moist, humid wind, she speaks of the importance of laughter, whether it was with her great friend and mentor Cracknell or with her mother\u2019s side of the family.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">What did the Rabe women laugh at? \u201cMy father, probably,\u201d she says. Her late father, William, was a tall man of Ukrainian\/Galician heritage and \u201cvery taciturn \u2013 a real softy, but apparently quite severe \u2013 and my mother and her family were always laughing to the point of tears\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">As the sun sets over the harbour, Rabe poses for her final photos for the day and points out the trains passing above us on the Harbour Bridge as a creative stimulus. Sydney, she says, is often noisy and beautiful; Melbourne more austere, and these environments distinctly impact the sorts of stage stories they produce.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But to decompress from all these challenging roles, it is usually shopping malls to which Rabe turns, not walking in nature.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI\u2019m not proud of this, and my husband, he\u2019s quite critical of it, but I find wandering up and down the aisles of supermarkets or Officeworks very calming. I don\u2019t know why that is; it\u2019s not necessarily buying things,\u201d she confides in all sincerity, momentarily seeming like one of her fiercely idiosyncratic characters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI say, \u2018Listen, we need some laundry soap, and I think I have to go out and do a little shopping\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sydneytheatre.com.au\/whats-on\/2026\/productions\/doubt-a-parable\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Doubt: A Parable is at the Rosyln Packer Theatre <\/a>30 June\u20132 August<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Pamela Rabe emerges from theatre rehearsals where she is playing a strict Catholic nun, the actor seeking divine&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":463674,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[32],"tags":[430,156,111,139,69],"class_list":["post-463673","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-celebrities","tag-celebrities","tag-entertainment","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/463673","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=463673"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/463673\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/463674"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=463673"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=463673"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=463673"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}