{"id":469738,"date":"2026-06-10T06:35:11","date_gmt":"2026-06-10T06:35:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/469738\/"},"modified":"2026-06-10T06:35:11","modified_gmt":"2026-06-10T06:35:11","slug":"tesla-fans-feel-duped-and-are-taking-the-elon-musk-owned-company-to-court","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/469738\/","title":{"rendered":"Tesla fans feel duped and are taking the Elon Musk-owned company to court"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Benjamin Liu, a Tesla owner in New Zealand who had bought the capability in 2020, is taking his own action.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Liu is a big fan of Tesla, buying his car in 2017. He said the owner group was so small then that Tesla could afford to invite all the owners to functions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe show up, we have a drink, go on a boat trip, that kind of thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">He promoted the car to everyone he met and is still a strong believer in what the company is trying to achieve.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">He said he has had a great experience with Tesla, but the unmet promise drove him to file a claim with the Disputes Tribunal. A hearing date is set for July.<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Auckland lecturer Benjamin Liu paid $4800 for the full self-drive feature in 2020.  Photo \/ Getty Images\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Auckland lecturer Benjamin Liu paid $4800 for the full self-drive feature in 2020.  Photo \/ Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">In 2020, he paid $4800 for Tesla\u2019s FSD. At the time, Musk promised the software would be available soon, and said the earlier you bought, the less you would pay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Musk\u2019s admission last month shattered Liu\u2019s hope.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI\u2019m not saying this is fraudulent. I\u2019m not saying Tesla or Elon Musk is lying. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/world\/us-investigates-tesla-for-steering-wheels-that-can-fall-off\/N6P52XA5D5FUJIQRFO73Y4GJ2Y\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/world\/us-investigates-tesla-for-steering-wheels-that-can-fall-off\/N6P52XA5D5FUJIQRFO73Y4GJ2Y\/\">I\u2019m simply saying what you [Tesla] said is misleading. I was misled.<\/a> Let\u2019s let the tribunal decide what is fair under the New Zealand law.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">In New Zealand, newer Tesla cars come with a hardware version called Hardware 4 \u2013 these cars have the memory space and cameras that allow drivers to use a supervised version of FSD. It allows the car to drive to destinations without the driver\u2019s hands on the steering wheel, but requires the driver to constantly check the road and monitor the car.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Liu\u2019s car is on Hardware 3, but he had a taste of Hardware 4 when he drove Tesla\u2019s loan car as his was getting serviced and he loved the experience.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">His friend also had a car with the function.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cShe says ever since she has this full self-driving, she\u2019s able to have coffee or do makeup when the car drives her to her office. She says it\u2019s really, really useful. When she goes on a longer trip, again, it\u2019s very stress-free.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">While Musk promised Tesla would build \u201cmicro-factories\u201d around the world to update Hardware 3 cars, Liu is not sure when that will be fulfilled and whether it would cost him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Liu has tried to negotiate with Tesla, which told him it would refund his 2020 payment of $4800.<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Elon Musk has admitted Tesla\u2019s Hardware 3 cannot support unsupervised full self-drive in the company's vehicles. Photo \/ Getty Images\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Elon Musk has admitted Tesla\u2019s Hardware 3 cannot support unsupervised full self-drive in the company&#8217;s vehicles. Photo \/ Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">But he is not happy with the offer. Buying the function now would cost more than $4800 after Tesla removed the option to buy it outright. The new deal is a subscription costing $159 a month \u2013 that $4800 refund would only last Liu 30 months of the service instead of a lifetime.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Plus, he would need to buy a new car that has Hardware 4.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Liu is a senior lecturer at the University of Auckland. He teaches commercial law and has worked at international law firms. He thinks he has a pretty strong case.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIn terms of the Consumer Guarantees Act, I think there are provisions saying that if you sell a service or product, that should be delivered within a reasonable period of time. And then in terms of the Fair Trading Act, the case against Tesla is even stronger because under the act, a trader like Tesla is not allowed to make misleading representations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/embattled-tesla-recalls-nearly-all-cybertrucks-over-risk-of-panel-detachment\/3RCJLBTF3RGPRL35KM2KDT6SV4\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/embattled-tesla-recalls-nearly-all-cybertrucks-over-risk-of-panel-detachment\/3RCJLBTF3RGPRL35KM2KDT6SV4\/\">\u201cBut in this case, clearly, Elon Musk on behalf of Tesla has made numerous misrepresentations.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Liu was not alone. Technology commentator Paul Spain bought his Tesla in 2019 and said he would not have bought the $85,000 car if it was not for the FSD promise.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIt certainly dents your confidence in the company, and whilst I think they\u2019ve been an incredibly innovative company and they\u2019ve really sort of spurned a global uptake in electric vehicles, they do seem to have really oversold the autonomous driving capabilities now over quite a period of time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">He called on Tesla to make things right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThey need to make the situation right with those that have made an investment in their technology and kept them in business, and ultimately made the business a very valuable business, because customers like those of us in New Zealand and around the world have bought into the promise of future capabilities.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">A search in the Motor Vehicles Disputes Tribunal showed over the past five years, six case decisions were made where Tesla New Zealand ULC was the respondent but none of them were about issues with FSD technology.<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Consumer NZ CEO Jon Duffy. \" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Consumer NZ CEO Jon Duffy. <\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Consumer NZ CEO Jon Duffy said in a statement that overseas companies selling goods and services in New Zealand were required to comply with our laws.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cHowever, enforcing the law can be difficult if the company doesn\u2019t have a physical presence here or at least an email address for service.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">He said as Tesla does have a physical presence in New Zealand, resolutions can involve contacting Tesla for a refund, lodging a claim with the Disputes Tribunal or making a report to the Commerce Commission.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">Tesla told RNZ it had no comment on the situation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"xRCtHSZoMFoDBmw\" style=\"display:none\">&#8211; RNZ<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Benjamin Liu, a Tesla owner in New Zealand who had bought the capability in 2020, is taking his&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":469739,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[95,192,138,1656,1349,147982,17448,9517,4522,2071,237568,111,139,69,4758,5536,223,61],"class_list":["post-469738","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-business","tag-and","tag-are","tag-business","tag-company","tag-court","tag-duped","tag-elon","tag-fans","tag-feel","tag-kexin","tag-muskowned","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-taking","tag-tesla","tag-the","tag-to"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469738","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=469738"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/469738\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/469739"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=469738"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=469738"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=469738"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}