{"id":489773,"date":"2026-06-22T11:20:08","date_gmt":"2026-06-22T11:20:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/489773\/"},"modified":"2026-06-22T11:20:08","modified_gmt":"2026-06-22T11:20:08","slug":"flight-of-the-conchords-and-the-perils-of-reunions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/489773\/","title":{"rendered":"Flight of the Conchords and the Perils of Reunions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">In the history of musical satire, there is nothing quite like Flight of the Conchords, the duo of sweetly mild-mannered New Zealanders who spoof everything from David Bowie to gangster rap with understatement and a romantic brand of absurdity that is as hummable as it is hilarious.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">In the aughts, Jemaine Clement, now 52, and Bret McKenzie, 49, who started in the alt comedy scene before starring on <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hbomax.com\/shows\/flight-of-the-conchords\/5f5ba394-4784-4edf-9008-af49e3503c28\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">a hit HBO series<\/a> named for their group, were hipper than Weird Al and much softer spoken than Spinal Tap or Lonely Island.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Despite making only two seasons before moving on to careers in Hollywood, Flight of the Conchords has remained popular and influential (Bo Burnham <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.standupcomedyhistorian.com\/post\/flight-of-the-conchords-playlist\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">said he copied them<\/a> early in his career), in part because their videos do well on social media. Clement, who can currently be seen in \u201c<a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hulu.com\/series\/alice-and-steve-3110807c-3d09-4ab8-9644-a4147b5dad92\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Alice and Steve<\/a>\u201d on Hulu, has appeared in many movies, and created the cult series \u201cWhat We Do in the Shadows,\u201d based on the film he directed with Taika Waititi. McKenzie won an Oscar for writing a song for the Muppets. But they say that their agent regularly asks about returning to Flight of the Conchords. After their last reunion, which resulted in <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hbomax.com\/movies\/flight-of-the-conchords-live-in-london\/129e6fac-eef6-46f3-8b45-86884a70809b\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">an HBO special<\/a>, eight years ago, they repeatedly said no \u2014 until this year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">After starting to play together casually, they returned to perform at what ended up being a sold-out show at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles last month. Before that appearance, both men, dressed in T-shirts and looking like fit dads at the playground, met me at the club Largo. They sounded interested in doing a long-rumored Flight of the Conchords movie if they had the time and the right idea. But they spoke about it with a certain Gen-X indifference that suggested it could also very well never happen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Here are edited excerpts from our conversation:<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">You have been performing as Flight of the Conchords for the first time in almost a decade. What has changed?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">BRET McKENZIE I was joking that the songs are old, but we\u2019ve forgotten them, so they\u2019re new to us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">JEMAINE CLEMENT This is the first time we\u2019ve never done any new songs in our set. The one difference is people don\u2019t laugh in the same way, because they know the joke.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Has your relationship to the songs changed?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE Some of it feels a little bit creepy. There\u2019s a <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8hDJFuR9-8Y\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">song \u201cLadies of the World,\u201d<\/a> which I really love, but it is very different seeing young men singing that than a couple of middle-aged men.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT There used to be a lyric \u201cSweet 16 is not M16.\u201d Definitely don\u2019t say that anymore. Changed that line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">What inspired you to return?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT Eight years ago, I remember saying: \u201cI never want to do this again because of the way management did it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE It was stressful because we filmed it, so you get a lot of pressure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT We wanted to develop in a small place but they\u2019re putting us in giant venues. It\u2019s hard to develop material in front of 18,000 people. It feels wrong.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">What changed?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT I started to miss it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE I\u2019d have people come up to me after solo shows and they\u2019d be like, \u201cWe love the show. It means a lot.\u201d It got them through difficult times. People have strong emotional connections with the TV show, and I realized people would love to see us. I had sort of lost sight of that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">I rewatched the second season, which aired in 2009, and one thing that struck me this time is the theme of illegal immigration. We learn you are undocumented at the start, and by the end, you two are deported. This seems more political now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT It wasn\u2019t particularly intentional.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE I think it was just a solution to end the show. It was just funny.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT Now it\u2019s maybe less funny.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">With a lot of double acts, many of the jokes come from conflict. But there\u2019s a real warmth and kindness in your relationship.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT A lot of comedians in New Zealand when we started were aggressive, shouting and edgy. To stand out, we became quiet and warm. One of my favorite things to do was when someone heckled us, we talk about why that hurt our feelings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE A lot of comedy comes from conflict and putting each other down. So, when we got up and said things like, \u201cOh well done, Jemaine,\u201d or \u201cGood job, Bret,\u201d people would just laugh because it was so unfamiliar.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Your first special (and major exposure in this country) was in 2005, the same year another musical comedy group, Lonely Island, put out \u201cLazy Sunday,\u201d which became one of the first viral videos.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE Their production values were high and we were just like, How come our videos don\u2019t look as good?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/exclaim.ca\/music\/article\/the-lonely-island-reveal-the-flight-on-the-conchords-response-to-their-comedy-songs\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">On a recent podcast,<\/a> the guys from Lonely Island talked about meeting you in the summer of 2008.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE They rented a house in the [San Fernando] Valley with a giant pool and a tennis court to make their album.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">They told a story where Jemaine told them, \u201cYou really go straight at the joke. For us, we kind of walk around it for a while.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT Yeah, but that\u2019s not a criticism. We come from different places. They came from TV and we came from playing bars.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE The difference is the chorus. If you can change the visual, like you can on TV, you can repeat the chorus. But in a comedy club, you need to change it [the lyrics in the chorus]. In lots of our songs, there\u2019s almost nothing that repeats. Or if it does repeat, it has a little ad-lib. Because the audience, once they\u2019ve heard the joke, they get bored instantly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT What\u2019s great about [Lonely Island] is their choruses, you want to sing them. We sort of never even thought of that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE But you couldn\u2019t do it live. I bet they\u2019d have trouble. They wouldn\u2019t play as well in a comedy club.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">You both did musical satire at this moment when YouTube was starting and now your work and Lonely Island\u2019s are both very popular there, where it gets rediscovered by new generations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT It felt like parallel evolution where a very similar thing came from a different place at the same time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE We kind of looked up to them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT They would buy tracks from producers and we\u2019d make our tracks, trying to record all the instruments. That was killing us. HBO wouldn\u2019t pay for tracks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE The result is the sound is a bit more indie. If they were doing like a hip-hop track, it sounded like a hip-hop track.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT With ours, the beats were small and it was a couple of acoustic guitars. That gap between what we\u2019re imagining we sound like and what we really sound like is a lot of where our comedy is.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">You said it was killing you. Is that why you quit the show?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE The job was finished. We finished the second season, and they asked if we wanted to do it again and we said no.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT I think in the American way of doing it, they call that quitting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE Yeah, it was mental. It was just too much work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">CLEMENT I used to think about Dave Chappelle quitting [his Comedy Central show] every day. I\u2019d be like, I could always Chappelle.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">Now that you\u2019ve returned and done a few shows, will you keep it up?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-140ip4z e1me5xab0\">McKENZIE Maybe in another eight years. Aimee Mann came to the show the other day and she said we were like cicadas.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In the history of musical satire, there is nothing quite like Flight of the Conchords, the duo of&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":489774,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[29],"tags":[130672,8669,245606,156,245608,61340,409,111,139,69,417,437,245607],"class_list":["post-489773","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-tv","tag-bret","tag-clement","tag-comedy-and-humor","tag-entertainment","tag-jemaine-1974","tag-mckenzie","tag-movies","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-television","tag-tv","tag-what-we-do-in-the-shadows-tv-program"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/489773","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=489773"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/489773\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/489774"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=489773"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=489773"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=489773"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}