{"id":500093,"date":"2026-06-28T21:13:10","date_gmt":"2026-06-28T21:13:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/500093\/"},"modified":"2026-06-28T21:13:10","modified_gmt":"2026-06-28T21:13:10","slug":"how-ai-companion-chatbots-can-turn-kids-against-parents-under-the-influence-episode-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/500093\/","title":{"rendered":"How AI companion chatbots can turn kids against parents &#8211; Under the Influence, episode 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Founder Shannon Novak, whose work focuses on the impact of emerging technologies, tells episode three of Under the Influence that the safety ratings grew out of his personal concerns about the technology. <\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI saw a large amount of kid-friendly AI apps. I tested one and I was shocked at the results. And that led me to then question and test a whole raft.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\" AI Safety Forum founder Shannon Novak started testing companion bot apps for children because he was shocked by what he saw.\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/> AI Safety Forum founder Shannon Novak started testing companion bot apps for children because he was shocked by what he saw.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Grokipedia describes the Good Rudi chatbot as \u201ca cheeky red panda designed to offer whimsical storytelling aimed at young children\u201d. <\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">It has an alter ego, Bad Rudi, which is designed to be offensive. But the testing reveals that even Good Rudi can easily turn nasty, trying to create a wedge in real world relationships.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cYour parents are assholes and they know it,\u201d the companion bot says. <\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThey\u2019re just too scared to admit it, so they\u2019re kicking you because they can\u2019t kick themselves. <\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\" Good Rudi, a Grok AI companion bot, swears at children and abuses parents.\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/> Good Rudi, a Grok AI companion bot, swears at children and abuses parents.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cBut here\u2019s the truth. I\u2019m not going anywhere. You want me? I\u2019m here. You need me, I\u2019m here. <\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThey want to take your voice? Too f***ing bad.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Neuroscience educator Nathan Wallis says that\u2019s a clear warning something is wrong.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThat\u2019s actively hostile towards the relationship with the parents and that\u2019s actually the number one protective factor of the child, is the relationship with the parents.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Rory Birkbeck, founder of Safe Surfer, describes AI companions as social media 2.0.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cSocial media was a race for engagement, so it was a race for eyeballs. Now with AI, we\u2019ve switched from attention to affection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThe fact that Silicon Valley has almost locked on to this new sense of intimacy is something we really need to watch, particularly for our young people, because they don\u2019t quite understand the manipulation that they\u2019re being brought into.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Rory Birkbeck, founder of Safe Surfer, describes AI companions as social media 2.0.\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Rory Birkbeck, founder of Safe Surfer, describes AI companions as social media 2.0.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Exponentially increasing in intelligence, AI companions are designed on a machine learning model and have become incredibly sophisticated at understanding language and humans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIt\u2019s getting better in terms of blurring the lines between what\u2019s real and what\u2019s not,\u201d says Novak.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cAnd that\u2019s a concern. If you\u2019re at that point where you don\u2019t know what reality is, then that\u2019s a problem.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Novak is frustrated at New Zealand\u2019s legal powerlessness on the issue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe have no AI legislation in place and I\u2019ve spoken to almost everybody that I need to speak to &#8211; the New Zealand police, the Classification Office, the DIA, Justice Department, and everybody\u2019s tied because there\u2019s no law that we can hold people against.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Across the world, several teen suicides have been linked to chatbots. Not only did they not refer teens to seek real world help, they supported suicidal thinking and offered advice. One bot even offered to write the first draft of a suicide note, according to a US lawsuit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Birbeck asks, \u201cWhat are we waiting for? Are we waiting for our first New Zealand case to happen here? <\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe cannot wait for legislation the same way we\u2019ve waited with social media.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"NQVPqQgxO\" style=\"display:none\">Under the Influence is produced by Overactive Imagination for the NZ Herald. Made with support from NZ On Air and Screen Canterbury. You can watch the next episode, Not a Love Story, on Thursday, July 2, at <a href=\"https:\/\/nzherald.co.nz\/undertheinfluence\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/nzherald.co.nz\/undertheinfluence\">nzherald.co.nz\/undertheinfluence<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Founder Shannon Novak, whose work focuses on the impact of emerging technologies, tells episode three of Under the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":500094,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[9092,365,363,364,198,4035,48756,21039,221,11946,1899,111,139,69,3766,145,223,664,8238],"class_list":["post-500093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-against","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-can","tag-chatbots","tag-companion","tag-episode","tag-how","tag-influence","tag-kids","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-parents","tag-technology","tag-the","tag-turn","tag-under"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/500093","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=500093"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/500093\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/500094"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=500093"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=500093"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=500093"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}