{"id":567271,"date":"2026-08-13T01:00:09","date_gmt":"2026-08-13T01:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/567271\/"},"modified":"2026-08-13T01:00:09","modified_gmt":"2026-08-13T01:00:09","slug":"church-that-owns-historic-carlile-house-talks-with-auckland-council-about-demolishing-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/567271\/","title":{"rendered":"Church that owns historic Carlile House talks with Auckland Council about demolishing it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Contemplating the future of Grey Lynn&#8217;s abandoned Carlile House<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">* This article has been updated to clarify Auckland Council was approached by the church regarding demolition, but this was prohibited.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Leaders of a church that owns a historic abandoned building in central Auckland have been in talks with Auckland Council about the possibility of demolishing it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The once-grand, two storey Carlile House in Auckland&#8217;s Grey Lynn was built in 1886 and has had many uses over its long life &#8211; including as an Anglican children&#8217;s home, and an alternative school.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">But in recent decades it has fallen into ruin and the church that owns it do not have the money to restore it to its former glory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">RNZ looks at the history and future of the building as part of our Abandoned Auckland series.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Architect and Grey Lynn local Graeme Burgess looks over a barbed wire and corrugated iron fence at the historic Carlile House on Richmond road in Grey Lynn.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;Right now, because of the fence running through here it actually feels so guarded, and it&#8217;s like something that nobody can actually appreciate.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The building was grand in size and stature, but Burgess said after years of neglect it was heart-breaking to see the state it had ended up in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;[It&#8217;s] difficult to watch something so grand and so wonderful slowly falling apart. But there are reasons why it&#8217;s in the state that it&#8217;s in at present. And those reasons are incredibly complex.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The United Church of Tonga, which owned the building, did not have the money to do it up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The church did not want to be interviewed for this story, but said it was working through its options for the building, and would put forward a plan in coming months.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Auckland Council said it had been approached about the possibility of demolishing the building by the church, but as it was a Category 1 Historic Place, that was prohibited.<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/4JK0ESM_DJI_0579_jpg.jpeg\"  alt=\"Carlile House in Auckland's Grey Lynn\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\"  decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"auto\"\/><\/p>\n<p>The building was a Category 1 Historic Place<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">RNZ \/ Marika Khabazi<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Graeme Burgess hoped the church and council could find a way to make use of the place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;I would hope that&#8217;s not the discussions they&#8217;re having. I hope that the discussions they&#8217;re having would be about how the place can be retained to the greatest extent possible.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Local artist John Reynolds, who has lived opposite Carlile house for decades, was less optimistic &#8211; given the roof of the building had partially caved in.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;At the current rate of decay, in 18 months it&#8217;ll be collapsing in on itself, if not before.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Reynolds believed the church had no interest in restoring the building, and the council had not done enough to help find a resolution.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">In 2019, Auckland Council <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/regions_auckland\/388179\/council-ponders-fate-of-grey-lynn-s-decaying-carlile-house-in-auckland\" class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">offered to buy the building<\/a>, but the church declined.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">At the time it was estimated re-developing it would cost $10 million to $20 million.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Reynolds would like the large property to be turned into social housing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;It could be many houses, and it could be housing for people that needs housing. It could be a win for the community, a win for the church, and actually a win for the heritage nuts.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Local historian Tania Mace said Carlile house was originally built with money bequeathed by early Auckland businessman Edward Costley.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;He lived a very frugal life, he never owned his own home. In the end when he passed away he made a number of bequests and this was one of them. And the people of Auckland were shocked to find he was extremely, extremely, wealthy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">It was originally a training facility for disadvantaged young boys to learn technical skills.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Later it was an Anglican children&#8217;s home, the headquarters of an evangelical outreach mission, an alternative school, and briefly a remand home, before eventually being bought by the United Church of Tonga in the late 1970s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Auckland Council compliance manager Adrian Wilson said the heritage of the building should be protected by its owners, but the council had no power to compel this.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Contemplating the future of Grey Lynn&#8217;s abandoned Carlile House * This article has been updated to clarify Auckland&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":567272,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[111,43,139,69],"class_list":["post-567271","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-zealand","tag-new-zealand","tag-news","tag-newzealand","tag-nz"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567271","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=567271"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567271\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/567272"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=567271"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=567271"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=567271"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}