{"id":59516,"date":"2025-10-04T08:14:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-04T08:14:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/59516\/"},"modified":"2025-10-04T08:14:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-04T08:14:08","slug":"nobody-is-there-to-see-me-tami-neilson-on-touring-with-bob-dylan-and-willie-nelson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/59516\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Nobody is there to see me\u2019: Tami Neilson on touring with Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tami Neilson talks touring the United States with her heroes, and why nothing compares to a home crowd.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It feels rude to start an interview with a musician by asking them about another, more famous, musician, but Tami Neilson assures me, after unleashing her signature bellowing laugh, that she\u2019s very used to talking about Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan by now. \u201cTo be fair, I\u2019m guilty of it too,\u201d she says over Zoom in front of a fetching cowboy applique wall hanging. \u201cOne of the first things I asked Willie Nelson Nelson when I met him was \u2018what was Patsy Cline like?\u2019\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Boasting big hair and blue eyeshadow even at 11am on a Tuesday, Neilson has recently returned to Aotearoa from an international tour supporting the pair of music legends. She\u2019s also released her 10th album Neon Cowgirl, which she is touring around the country in October, and has been awarded the inaugural Country Music Honour for contribution to country music in Aotearoa. All that, and yet, she\u2019s still not above dishing the goss on Willie and Bob.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBob is\u2026\u201d she pauses. \u201cI never got to meet him \u2013 but nobody got to meet him. He basically rolls up right before his set, plays, and then rolls out and there\u2019s no interaction. He\u2019s notoriously private.\u201d At the other end of the spectrum is her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JFS0p1MpEG0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">sometimes collaborator Willie Nelson<\/a>. \u201cHe has this incredible generosity of spirit and doesn\u2019t sweat the small stuff,\u201d she says. \u201cHe\u2019s such an inspiration to me because he didn\u2019t break through until his 40s, which means he spent half his life as a normal person.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"A large concert stage featuring Willie Nelson and Tami Neilson during the Outlaw tour\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%\"\/>Willie Nelson and Tami Neilson perform together on the Outlaw Tour. Image: Supplied<\/p>\n<p>While it was a career highlight to open for the people who \u201chave laid the foundations in music and songwriting that we all stand on\u201d, Neilson says the gig wasn\u2019t without its challenges. \u201cI\u2019m the first one on, so I walk out onto that stage totally cold. Nobody is there to see me. Nobody knows who I am, and I have 30 minutes to win them over,\u201d she says. \u201cIt\u2019s a very different feeling than when I walk onto a stage anywhere in New Zealand.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>There was another chill in the air given the current political climate in the United States. \u201cYou can feel this level of tension everywhere you go,\u201d she says. \u201cYou don\u2019t sit with your back to the door at a restaurant, which you never even think of when you\u2019re in New Zealand. It\u2019s something that Americans just live in, that it\u2019s like a lobster slowly being boiled \u2013 they don\u2019t realise the level of stress on their nervous system because it\u2019s just become their normal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In the country music space, traditionally a conservative stronghold, Neilson worried about even saying where she was from in front of a big crowd. \u201cI\u2019ve never been nervous to say I am originally from Canada before, but this was right in the middle of the tariff stuff and I was worried I was going to get booed off the stage,\u201d she says. \u201cWillie also performs with a giant American flag behind him on stage and I didn\u2019t want to upset anybody.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Tami Neilson onstage in front of a large crowd wearing an &quot;I HEART WILLIE&quot; denim dress\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%\"\/>Tami Neilson performs in the Outlaw Festival. Image: Supplied<\/p>\n<p>While most of her fretting didn\u2019t come to anything, there was an incident at US customs that proved the changing times. \u201cI was standing in the queue, and \u2018Don\u2019t Dream It\u2019s Over\u2019 started playing over the speaker which I thought was a good sign that I didn\u2019t need to worry,\u201d she says. \u201cI was nearly at the front of the queue when this man started getting dragged away and yelling \u2018this is what happens when you vote for Trump\u2019. It just changed the whole temperature of the room.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Returning to Aotearoa just last month, she describes the homecoming as \u201cone big exhale\u201d after the US. In her new album she sings of how the titular Neon Cowgirl \u201cfelt like welcome home\u201d in Nashville, but what makes her feel like home in Aotearoa? \u201cHonestly, as soon as I walk through that marae archway with the beautiful carvings, and there\u2019s the sound of native birds and playing over the speakers, tears fill my eyes,\u201d she says. \u201cIt\u2019s like the Stargate for me.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And with country music experiencing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/top\/562708\/the-detail-how-new-zealand-is-falling-in-love-with-country-music\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">a massive revival<\/a>, Neilson says New Zealanders are just as passionate for the genre as those in Nashville. \u201cA lot of people act like country music is this dirty little secret, but it\u2019s no secret that we have loved people like The Highwaymen or Dennis Marsh forever,\u201d she says. \u201cThe fact that my albums get to the top of the charts with zero radio play, as an independent artist, also shows how much New Zealanders love country music.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Tami Neilson in a black dress with blue sequin lightning bolt and neon yellow cape\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"responsive\" style=\"position:absolute;top:0;left:0;bottom:0;right:0;box-sizing:border-box;padding:0;border:none;margin:auto;display:block;width:0;height:0;min-width:100%;max-width:100%;min-height:100%;max-height:100%\"\/>Neilson says country music is no dirty little secret anymore.<\/p>\n<p>When Neilson plays here, the place she has called home for nearly two decades, she doesn\u2019t have to worry about winning people over any more. \u201cThere\u2019s this warm, loving embrace of applause and it\u2019s like, \u2018these are my people, this is my wh\u0101nau\u2019,\u201d she says. \u201cWhen I come back from a big tour and people come to see me here, it feels like coming back to your family\u2019s house, and everyone\u2019s sitting around the dinner table being like, \u2018OK, tell us all about it\u2019.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Embarking on her nationwide tour in October, Neilson says that nothing compares to playing live music at home. \u201cThere\u2019s an indescribable energy that\u2019s going back and forth between us, and it\u2019s this beautiful connection that just fills the room.\u201d Christchurch \u201cfeels like a homecoming\u201d because everyone thinks she\u2019s from Lyttelton, same with her (nearly) namesake Nelson. Wellington is \u201cquite discerning and usually the rowdiest\u201d.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But it\u2019s in Auckland that Neilson has something even better than Nashville\u2019s Neon Cowgirl, Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan combined. \u201cMy boys are there and my family\u2019s there,\u201d she beams. \u201cAnd I can drag them up on stage if they\u2019ll let me.\u201d And with live music constantly under threat thanks to skyrocketing touring costs, AI and streamers pulverising artist profit and, as she puts it, \u201cthe world completely falling apart\u201d, Neilson isn\u2019t taking any of it for granted.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGetting on a stage in a room with people and making music is something that is getting harder and harder to do for musicians who aren\u2019t huge stadium artists, but we are all still looking for ways to fill our lives with escapism and comfort and human connection,\u201d she says. \u201cI treasure every time that I get to do this \u2013 because it really is like nothing else.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tami Neilson talks touring the United States with her heroes, and why nothing compares to a home crowd.\u00a0&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":59517,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[12800,492,32154,156,111,139,69,49184,1066,49185,8179],"class_list":["post-59516","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-entertainment","tag-bob-dylan","tag-comments-enabled","tag-country-music","tag-entertainment","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-nz-music","tag-pop-culture","tag-tami-neilson","tag-willie-nelson"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/59516","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=59516"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/59516\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/59517"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=59516"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=59516"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=59516"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}