{"id":608935,"date":"2026-09-23T06:20:18","date_gmt":"2026-09-23T06:20:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/608935\/"},"modified":"2026-09-23T06:20:18","modified_gmt":"2026-09-23T06:20:18","slug":"marc-benioff-says-microsoft-shut-salesforce-out-of-openai-so-he-bet-on-anthropic-instead-and-it-could-pay-tens-of-billions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/608935\/","title":{"rendered":"Marc Benioff Says Microsoft Shut Salesforce Out Of OpenAI \u2014 So He Bet On Anthropic Instead, And It Could Pay &#8216;Tens Of Billions&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">CEO Marc Benioff said Salesforce&#8217;s inability to invest in OpenAI helped steer the company toward Anthropic in 2023.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Salesforce could make &#8220;tens of billions&#8221; from the Anthropic IPO, Benioff said.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Strong Agentforce growth and record revenue are helping Salesforce counter concerns that AI agents could disrupt SaaS.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Salesforce, Inc. CEO Marc Benioff said Microsoft&#8217;s close relationship with OpenAI effectively shut the cloud software provider out of investing in the ChatGPT maker years ago, pushing him to look elsewhere in the frontier AI market and leading to what could become one of his most lucrative bets: Anthropic.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Speaking to Alex Heath on his Sources podcast, Benioff said Salesforce had wanted exposure to OpenAI but ended up backing Anthropic with an initial cheque of $50 million in 2023 at a reported $4.1 billion pre-money valuation. Salesforce has since invested more than $300 million across multiple rounds.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stocktwits.com\/newsletters\" data-ylk=\"slk:See%20what%2010M%2B%20investors%20are%20talking%20about.%20Get%20the%20Stocktwits%20Daily%20Rip%20for%20what%20retail%20is%20watching%20right%20now%2C%20free%20to%20your%20inbox;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;See what 10M+ investors are talking about. Get the Stocktwits Daily Rip for what retail is watching right now, free to your inbox&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">See what 10M+ investors are talking about. Get the Stocktwits Daily Rip for what retail is watching right now, free to your inbox<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Benioff said he believes Salesforce could potentially make &#8220;tens of billions&#8221; of dollars from Anthropic when the AI startup goes public.  <\/p>\n<p>        From Anthropic Investment To Claude In Slack          <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">That relationship is now moving beyond Salesforce&#8217;s investment portfolio and directly into its software. Under the recently expanded Claudeforce partnership, Claude is the default model in Slack, powering Slackbot, while Salesforce workflows and data can be accessed directly through Claude.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Benioff also defended Salesforce&#8217;s $27.7 billion acquisition of Slack, saying the company bought it because it expected AI agents to become the primary interface for business. He said Slack&#8217;s adoption inside companies such as OpenAI and Anthropic has helped validate that thesis.  <\/p>\n<p>        &#8216;SaaSpocalypse&#8217; Waning?          <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Salesforce was caught in the broader software selloff earlier this year, when fears that increasingly capable AI agents could disrupt traditional SaaS wiped roughly $1 trillion from U.S. software stocks in about a week. Salesforce shares fell sharply during the rout.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Recent results, however, have provided a stronger backdrop. Salesforce reported record second-quarter revenue of $11.3 billion, up 11%, while Agentforce run-rate exceeded $1.5 billion, up more than 240%. The company also raised its full-year revenue guidance to $46.1 billion-$46.4 billion.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">The results suggest Salesforce is increasingly positioning Anthropic and other AI models not simply as threats to SaaS, but as infrastructure that can help reshape its own software business.  <\/p>\n<p>            Retail View On CRM         <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">On Stocktwits, the retail sentiment for CRM was &#8216;bearish,&#8217; unchanged for a week. The stock has fallen for six straight sessions, shedding about 10% over the period and giving back part of its post-earnings bump.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Sentiment was &#8216;bearish&#8217; for both Anthropic and OpenAI, with traders closely watching for Anthropic&#8217;s IPO filing, which is expected soon. Both companies have already confidentially <a href=\"https:\/\/stocktwits.com\/news-articles\/markets\/equity\/anthropic-files-paperwork-with-sec-for-wall-street-debut\/cZ0gUViRevc\" data-ylk=\"slk:filed;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;filed&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">filed<\/a> their initial registration <a href=\"https:\/\/stocktwits.com\/news-articles\/markets\/equity\/open-ai-confidentially-files-for-us-ipo\/cZ0vS75R7G6\" data-ylk=\"slk:documents;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas;source:content-canvas%20default\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;documents&quot;,&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yTrafficOrigin&quot;:&quot;content-canvas default&quot;}\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">documents<\/a> with the markets regulator, according to media reports.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">According to Nasdaq Private Market data, OpenAI last had a valuation of $910.14 billion while Anthropic&#8217;s was over $1.3 trillion.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">For updates and corrections, email newsroom[at]stocktwits[dot]com.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"text text-block paragraph text-left neo-font-paragraph-xl-reg  yf-18d6y07\" style=\"text-decoration: none; font-style: normal; text-transform: none; text-align: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal;\">Yuvraj Malik has no position in any of the stocks mentioned in this article. 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