This is a small, ongoing study, but have you seen any effects yet?<\/p>\n
We’ve had 3 patients go through, and without giving too much away, we’re seeing what we would expect to see from other psilocybin and depression studies\u2014a very good signal of efficacy. Even though this study really isn’t designed for efficacy analyses, we are seeing a similar pattern, with some significant improvement.<\/p>\n
What are you most looking forward to as this research progresses?<\/p>\n
There are a number of things psychedelics could do in the cancer area, and I’ll talk about that. But first, part of what got us into this was that when patients have depression resulting from a cancer diagnosis, lung cancer in particular, it’s not always just low mood and difficulty enjoying things they once enjoyed. That’s definitely there, as you’d see in a traditional depression. But you also see feelings of existential distress and hopelessness: What’s my life’s meaning? Am I a burden now on my family?<\/p>\n
With lung cancer in particular, a lot of the time, there’s also stigma. Not everyone who has lung cancer smokes cigarettes, obviously, but many did, and so there’s this feeling of, “I did this to myself. I did this to my family.” <\/p>\n
While there are effective psychological and psychiatric treatments for depression in patients with cancer, they tend not to work for everyone, they often don’t touch those deeper things, and they can be slower, taken over long periods of time. With psychedelics, when you look at other populations, including studies in patients with cancer\u2014just never in patients with lung cancer\u2014you see that it touches those deeper things. That’s especially true in the qualitative literature, where, following these trials, they ask people what their experience was like during the dosing session and afterward. They report it as very meaningful, sometimes the most meaningful experience of their life. It has profound effects.<\/p>\n
Patients with lung cancer often come in with very advanced disease, so they’re hit right away with, “What am I going to do now?” This can all come on quickly, and they might not have a long time. What psychedelics offer are very rapid and profound changes, which has been shown in various other studies. We hope to see the same in this study.<\/p>\n
For psychedelics in general in cancer<\/a>, there are also some really interesting things in terms of not just mental health but physical health. An article came out a couple of weeks ago in Science from UT MD Anderson showing that [psilocybin], in a mouse model, helped improve chemotherapy-induced neuropathy,2 and that’s actually a study we also have going on here. It also seems it could potentially improve cognitive impairment related to cancer treatment\u2014think of chemo brain\u2014because of its ability to seemingly increase neuroplasticity. There have been some suggestions that there may be neurogenesis.<\/p>\n I’ve given grand rounds at various cancer centers over the last 4 or 5 years, and I’ve said that if a cancer center within the next decade does not have a robust psychedelic research and potentially clinical program, depending on these trials, it’s going to be behind. It’s a very interesting area of research, and I think it has the potential to really help a lot of people.<\/p>\n Is there anything else you would want oncologists and others working with patients with cancer to know about this work?<\/p>\n I think this is changing, but 5 years ago, when I was bringing this up to various physicians, they saw it as a little bit of woo-woo stuff\u2014”Oh, you mean that stuff I experimented with back in the day?” What I always try to impress upon them is a couple of things.<\/p>\n One, the dose we’re talking about is not like popping a mushroom cap and going around a museum looking at pretty colors. We’re talking about a heroic dose, given in a very specific way, with specific intentions, in a specific setting, with preparation that gives the patient an idea of what they’re going to encounter. It’s very much an internal experience. Patients are wearing eye shades and headphones and listening to instrumental music. It’s very well controlled and planned.<\/p>\n Two, just look at the data. They’re in The New England Journal of Medicine, Science, and JAMA. These are pretty well-done studies, and while the sample sizes aren’t 1000 patients\u2014because it’s a schedule I drug, it takes a lot to get, and we have to screen people out\u2014the results themselves are incredible. Will that be true for this population? I don’t know, but I don’t see why not. That’s why we’re doing the study.<\/p>\n REFERENCES1. Exploring the Safety, Acceptability, and Efficacy of Psilocybin Among Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer Patients With Major Depressive Disorder: A Proof-of-Concept Trial (DREAM LUNG Study). ClinicalTrials.gov. Accessed October 7, 2026. https:\/\/clinicaltrials.gov\/study\/NCT07216404<\/a>2. Psilocybin prevents chemotherapy-related nerve injury and associated symptoms in preclinical models. UT MD Anderson. September 3, 2026. Accessed October 7, 2026. https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/34vujch7<\/a> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"This is a small, ongoing study, but have you seen any effects yet? We’ve had 3 patients go…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":626648,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[134,111,139,69],"class_list":["post-626647","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-health","tag-health","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/626647","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=626647"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/626647\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/626648"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=626647"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=626647"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=626647"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}