{"id":628931,"date":"2026-10-13T03:28:11","date_gmt":"2026-10-13T03:28:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/628931\/"},"modified":"2026-10-13T03:28:11","modified_gmt":"2026-10-13T03:28:11","slug":"could-this-be-the-frontier-labs-wework-moment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/628931\/","title":{"rendered":"Could this be the Frontier Labs\u2019 WeWork moment?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In May, at the peak of tokenmaxxing, people were talking about OpenAI IPO\u2019ing at a trillion dollars, Anthropic at two trillion dollars. Maybe that will still happen, but it probably shouldn\u2019t. <\/p>\n<p>Tokenmaxxing died, Chinese open-weight models forced price wars, there was some  <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2026\/10\/08\/openais-revenue-is-reportedly-20-billion-less-than-previously-projected\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">hinkiness around some of projections OpenAI\u2019s  revenue<\/a> and the so-called \u201crogue AI\u201d (really just bad software) fiasco hadn\u2019t yet made the news. With the errant, and possibly criminal, nature of poorly controlled agents now front and center, potential liability is clearly becoming a major new issue. LLM\u2019s might well someday be renamed Large Liability Modules.<\/p>\n<p>A significant new copyright decision by a U.S. appeals court also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courthousenews.com\/ai-training-of-copyrighted-material-not-fair-use-third-circuit\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">just undermined the generative AI companies<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"image-link image2 is-viewable-img can-restack\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/substackcdn.com\/image\/fetch\/$s_!RbaL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep\/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4176ee76-322b-468f-872a-d4dbfdb4bd7e_1986x1306.png\" data-component-name=\"Image2ToDOM\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/4176ee76-322b-468f-872a-d4dbfdb4bd7e_1986.jpeg\" width=\"1456\" height=\"957\" data-attrs=\"{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com\/public\/images\/4176ee76-322b-468f-872a-d4dbfdb4bd7e_1986x1306.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:957,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:2828000,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/garymarcus.substack.com\/i\/220111659?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4176ee76-322b-468f-872a-d4dbfdb4bd7e_1986x1306.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}\" class=\"sizing-normal\" alt=\"\"   fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Against all of this, it\u2019s harder and harder to fathom how the companies could really merit the enormous valuations they are seeking. This is perhaps part of why OpenAI has pushed back their OpenAI until 2027. (Anthropic is supposedly going to IPO next month, but notably still has not publicly released its S-1.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center\">\u00a7<\/p>\n<p>Two things I read this morning, jet lagged in New Dehli, seem even more ominous.<\/p>\n<p>The paywall below is your occasional gentle reminder that I work hard on this newsletter and appreciate paid subscribers. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In May, at the peak of tokenmaxxing, people were talking about OpenAI IPO\u2019ing at a trillion dollars, Anthropic&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":628932,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[365,363,364,111,139,69,145],"class_list":["post-628931","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-new-zealand","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/628931","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=628931"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/628931\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/628932"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=628931"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=628931"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=628931"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}