{"id":634695,"date":"2026-10-18T22:22:10","date_gmt":"2026-10-18T22:22:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/634695\/"},"modified":"2026-10-18T22:22:10","modified_gmt":"2026-10-18T22:22:10","slug":"nationals-new-silence-policy-flies-in-face-of-justice-lawyers-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/634695\/","title":{"rendered":"National&#8217;s new silence policy &#8216;flies in face of justice&#8217;, lawyers say"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Lawyers say National&#8217;s promise to remove the right to silence during child murder investigations is &#8220;dangerous&#8221; and &#8220;flies in the face of justice&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>By Felix Walton of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">RNZ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, justice spokesperson Paul Goldsmith announced a National government would make it a Crimes Act offence for someone at the scene of a child&#8217;s death not to give information to police.<\/p>\n<p>Retired law professor Bill Hodge said the policy appeared to target suspects&#8217; relatives, rather than the perpetrators themselves.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It may be aimed not so much necessarily at the primary perpetrator, but the relatives, the family members and so on, who engage in what National might call a &#8216;conspiracy of silence&#8217;,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sure the police have been frustrated, not so much by the person they see as the primary suspect, but by everyone else who was present in the house.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/nationals-justice-spokesperson-paul-goldsmith-announced-the-3O2GXETIQ5FHFIL4QWPMNDJKXM.jpg\" alt=\"National's justice spokesperson Paul Goldsmith announced the policy on Sunday.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"ImageMetadata__MetadataParagraph-sc-hi5x8q-0 cWTYyG image-metadata\">National&#8217;s justice spokesperson Paul Goldsmith announced the policy on Sunday. (Source: rnz.co.nz)<\/p>\n<p>He said it would give police more sway during interrogations, but worried it tipped the scales too far.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It would certainly add strength to the police arm in saying to those persons &#8216;you must talk to us or we will charge you with this new offence&#8217;,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think it changes the dynamic of an investigation in a way which I would say is dangerous. The investigator could now be seen to have the upper hand, given that powerful threat which they have behind them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Professor Hodge said it also put more weight behind an interrogator&#8217;s bluff.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Investigations sometimes involve a bit of a bluff and it&#8217;s quite well known that sometimes an investigator will imply somebody else, &#8216;your so-called friend is speaking, and you may end up in trouble yourself if you don&#8217;t speak yourself&#8217;,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Defence lawyer Marie Dyhrberg KC said it flipped the burden of proof on its head.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a reverse onus, it&#8217;s a presumption of guilt whereby somebody who just happened to be at the location, they&#8217;re presumed to be withholding evidence,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It just flies in the face of justice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She said the right to remain silent was fundamental to a fair justice system.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The state has all the resources and all the ability to make an allegation and prosecute someone, and the ordinary citizen doesn&#8217;t have the resources to fight back,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Even if they did, it doesn&#8217;t matter. You make the allegation and you have to prove it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ve got to recognise that sometimes proving innocence is virtually impossible. [The right to silence] is protection against wrongful conviction.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Bill Hodge said it was understandable that police and members of the public would feel frustrated by cases in which potential key witnesses had refused to cooperate with police.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;There have been situations that it upsets our conscience to have other housemates and other people in the extended family refuse to assist, and that is disturbing,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;On the other hand, the right to silence is such a fundamental right. I&#8217;m just concerned about abuse by investigators. Having been an investigator myself, I&#8217;m concerned about the way they would go about an interrogation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Despite his concerns, Hodge didn&#8217;t feel as strongly as Dyhrberg.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Put it this way, I don&#8217;t think it would make me complain to the Human Rights Commission, but it&#8217;s certainly something because it changes the dynamics of police and their interaction with families,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s one of the more interesting campaign issues that&#8217;s come up in an otherwise pretty dreary campaign.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Lawyers say National&#8217;s promise to remove the right to silence during child murder investigations is &#8220;dangerous&#8221; and &#8220;flies&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":634696,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[67,11507,111,43,139,69,135],"class_list":["post-634695","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-zealand","tag-crime-and-justice","tag-national-party","tag-new-zealand","tag-news","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/634695","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=634695"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/634695\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/634696"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=634695"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=634695"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=634695"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}