{"id":644993,"date":"2026-10-29T16:34:10","date_gmt":"2026-10-29T16:34:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/644993\/"},"modified":"2026-10-29T16:34:10","modified_gmt":"2026-10-29T16:34:10","slug":"te-tiriti-gangs-and-grocery-prices-parties-clash-in-kaupapa-maori-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/644993\/","title":{"rendered":"Te tiriti, gangs and grocery prices: Parties clash in Kaupapa M\u0101ori Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Seven political parties have gone head to head in TVNZ&#8217;s Kaupapa M\u0101ori Debate, clashing over Te Tiriti o Waitangi, the cost of living, and the future of te reo M\u0101ori.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Labour&#8217;s Willie Jackson, National&#8217;s Tama Potaka, ACT&#8217;s Nicole McKee, Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson, NZ First&#8217;s Shane Jones, Opportunity&#8217;s Eden Skipper, and Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori co-leader Rawiri Waititi all took part in the debate,<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">You can watch the full debate here:<\/p>\n<p>Jackson: This is &#8216;the most anti-M\u0101ori government of my lifetime&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Te Tiriti took centre stage at the start of the debate, with NZ First&#8217;s Shane Jones questioned over his party&#8217;s plans to abolish the Waitangi Tribunal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Jones defended the policy, saying politics was &#8220;dynamic&#8221; and arguing that 50 years after the tribunal was established &#8220;it&#8217;s not an institution that should remain away from the pressures and the democratic process&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Labour&#8217;s Willie Jackson hit back, describing the Government as &#8220;the most anti-M\u0101ori government of my lifetime&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Waititi: &#8216;Gangs have been politically manufactured&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The focus then quickly moved on to gangs &#8211; a hot topic in recent days.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori co-leader Rawiri Waititi said gangs had been &#8220;politically manufactured&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;They are the product of state abuse of our people, church abuse of our people, through the 70s and the 80s.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Jackson was also quick to push back against claims his party supports gangs, pointing to campaign billboards linking Labour, Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori and the Greens with gangs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We do not support gangs &#8230; but we will always support wh\u0101nau, we will always support communities.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>ACT &#8216;don&#8217;t support a Pak&#8217;n&#8217;Soviet&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The cost of living was a major topic, with parties keen to push their own solutions to grocery prices &#8211; and criticise others&#8217; proposals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Marama Davidson backed breaking up the supermarket duopoly, but said the Greens would go further with a publicly-owned supermarket focused on affordable prices.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">ACT&#8217;s Nicole McKee rejected that approach.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We don&#8217;t support a Pak&#8217;n&#8217;Soviet.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">She argued reducing bureaucracy and the costs involved in getting new supermarkets established would help increase competition, referencing a supermarket in Christchurch that had to spend years and millions of dollars just to get the doors open.<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/4JFZIUO_Screenshot_2026_10_29_200719_png.jpeg\"  alt=\"TVNZ's Kaupapa Maori Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\"  decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"auto\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Labour and Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori both set out their plans to deal with grocery prices at the debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">Screenshot \/ TVNZ<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Rawiri Waititi pushed Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori&#8217;s plan to put more money into wh\u0101nau pockets through tax changes and a food credit, alongside greater competition in the supermarket sector, including a M\u0101ori-owned supermarket.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Willie Jackson said Labour would target price gouging, accusing supermarkets of &#8220;ripping off the customers&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Shane Jones hit back, saying he had been willing to take on the supermarket giants long before others.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;In 2014, there was only one politician who stood up and took on Countdown. That was Shane Jones.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Opportunity weighs in on healthcare<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">As the debate turned to healthcare, Opportunity challenged the other parties to support a 10-year plan to address the problems in the system.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">There was no definitive answer from any candidate on that challenge, except for Shane Jones, who asked why Eden Skipper &#8211; who is much younger than Jones &#8211; was questioning him, given Jones is his elder.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;We&#8217;re going to mine&#8217;, says NZ First<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Jobs were the next flashpoint in the debate, with Shane Jones challenged over high unemployment in Kaikohe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Jones said: &#8220;It&#8217;s not government that generates jobs, it&#8217;s the private sector.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">He said creating well-paid jobs meant backing industry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We&#8217;re going to mine,&#8221; he announced.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">That sparked pushback from Labour and the Greens, with Jones accusing his opponents of being &#8220;too scared to support industry&#8221; because of &#8220;woke&#8221; politics.<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/4JFZN13_TVNZ_s_Kaupapa_Maori_Debate_photocredit_Harley_Peters_10_JPG.jpeg\"  alt=\"National's Tama Potaka at the debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\"  decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"auto\"\/><\/p>\n<p>National&#8217;s Tama Potaka criticised the Greens at the debate, decrying &#8220;Robin Hood politics&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">Harley Peters<\/p>\n<p>Greens and National clash over &#8216;Robin Hood politics&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">As the debate turned to climate resilience and the role of marae during extreme weather events, Marama Davidson and Tama Potaka clashed over the Greens&#8217; proposed $2.4 billion investment in marae.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Davidson said strong marae meant stronger communities, and said decisions over how that money was distributed should sit with M\u0101ori rather than government.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Potaka pointed to funding already provided to marae, arguing the Government had delivered &#8220;results&#8221; rather than rhetoric.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;This is what we&#8217;re talking about, supporting marae, where suitable in a sustainable arrangement &#8211; not Robin Hood politics.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Parties discuss future of te reo<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The last major topic of the night was te reo, with the parties challenged over what they would do to grow and protect the language.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">McKee pointed to M\u0101ori participation in charter schools, but said learning te reo should be a choice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;One thing we won&#8217;t do is take it away, but we don&#8217;t want it being compulsory.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Jones defended NZ First&#8217;s move to make English an official language when asked if &#8220;English was ever under threat&#8221; by moderators, and pointed to New Zealand&#8217;s changing demographics. He said migrants needed to know &#8220;this is an English-speaking country&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Potaka was challenged over claims the Government had removed or reduced te reo M\u0101ori across parts of the public sector.<\/p>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/4JFZINS_Screenshot_2026_10_29_201154_png.jpeg\"  alt=\"TVNZ's Kaupapa Maori Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\"  decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" fetchpriority=\"auto\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Coalition parties defended their record in government on Thursday night.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">Screenshot \/ TVNZ<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">He rejected that characterisation, saying the Government had &#8220;reinforced our commitment&#8221; to te reo through initiatives including Te Matatini and M\u0101ori broadcasting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Waititi said M\u0101ori should be prioritised for spaces in te reo M\u0101ori classes and went further, calling for the language to be compulsory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We need to make M\u0101ori compulsory. But we won&#8217;t strap you into it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">He spoke about the punishment M\u0101ori ancestors faced for speaking their language, and said the aim was to create a bilingual country.<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">&#8220;We will treat you with a lot of kindness and welcome you to our language, but we won&#8217;t do what you did to our ancestors &#8230; to learn English.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">He said being a &#8220;true New Zealander&#8221; meant every New Zealander learning to speak te reo M\u0101ori.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Seven political parties have gone head to head in TVNZ&#8217;s Kaupapa M\u0101ori Debate, clashing over Te Tiriti o&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":644994,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[111,43,139,69],"class_list":["post-644993","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-zealand","tag-new-zealand","tag-news","tag-newzealand","tag-nz"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/644993","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=644993"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/644993\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/644994"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=644993"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=644993"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=644993"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}