{"id":645143,"date":"2026-10-29T20:00:25","date_gmt":"2026-10-29T20:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/645143\/"},"modified":"2026-10-29T20:00:25","modified_gmt":"2026-10-29T20:00:25","slug":"the-rings-of-power-showrunners-defend-the-show-from-one-of-its-biggest-criticisms-ahead-of-season-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/645143\/","title":{"rendered":"The Rings of Power showrunners defend the show from one of its biggest criticisms ahead of season 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"inline-text-0\" class=\"mt-[18px] md:mt-0 mb-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"9n\">The Rings of Power showrunners have responded to one of the biggest criticisms the Prime Video show has faced over the years ahead of season 3. <\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-1\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"9s\">With the first four episodes dropping on Wednesday, Nov. 11, the internet is sure to light up with debate once again on the creative choices of showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay. The common criticism they addressed in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=h5Q-DRo3t-g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">recent interview with Signum University<\/a> was the timeline compression applied in the show, which is due to continue throughout the upcoming seasons.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-2\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"9x\">\u201cI posit that if Tolkien were to write the novel of the Second Age, he would have condensed the timeline,&#8221; McKay said. <\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-3\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"a2\">McKay may be too polite to sass the show\u2019s detractors outright, but the playful frustration in his voice spoke to his many years of explaining a simple truth: there is no one \u201cfaithful\u201d adaptation of a timeline.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-4\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"a7\">And it is a timeline that the showrunners are adapting, for the most part. They have the rights to The Hobbit, T<a href=\"https:\/\/winteriscoming.net\/fantasy-series\/lord-of-the-rings\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">he Lord of the Rings<\/a>, and its appendices, and the only part of that which really covers the Second Age is the timeline in the appendices. But even so, the showrunners rightly state in their interview that the parts of Tolkien\u2019s legendarium that do go into more detail on the Second Age are few and far between compared to those that cover the First and Third Ages.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-5\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"ac\">In the extended interview, Tolkien scholar Corey Olsen and the showrunners also discuss how keen Tolkien was to include more detail in his appendices, while he was forced by various external constraints to cut much of it out. <\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-6\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"ah\">&#8220;We took all these little clues and thought of them as stars in the sky that we then connected to write the novel that Tolkien never wrote about the Second Age,&#8221; Payne said while <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vanityfair.com\/hollywood\/2022\/02\/10-burning-questions-about-amazons-the-rings-of-power\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">speaking to Vanity Fair<\/a> in 2022. <\/p>\n<p>Adapting challenging material<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-8\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"ar\">The show has managed to get one-off instances of rights to other parts of Tolkien\u2019s work, so rights haven\u2019t been the issue, for the most part. McKay and Payne are confronting the criticism that their show\u2019s timeline compression isn\u2019t faithful to Tolkien\u2019s Second Age by asserting the fact that they are simply adapting material without TV-level detail. Tolkien\u2019s work on the Second Age is wide-ranging, as the showrunners acknowledge, but it is big on broad strokes of narrative and not very detailed in terms of dialogue and character psychology.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-9\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"aw\">If Tolkien had written a novel about the Second Age, he may well have condensed the timeline so as to write a gripping story that kept readers caring increasingly about one consistent set of characters. A novel is far closer to the TV format, and that would have been easier for The Rings of Power showrunners to adapt.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-10\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"b1\">But they didn\u2019t have a novel. They had Tolkien\u2019s entirely unique and generation-spanning legendarium, composed of the archaic Silmarillion, medieval poetry, drafts, and notes. While some argue they should have adapted something more suitable, the downside of that is less Middle-earth on our screens.<\/p>\n<p>How the show alters Tolkien\u2019s timeline<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-12\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"bb\">Rings of Power season 3, starting five years after the events of season 2, will see the rise of Sauron\u2019s dark tower, Barad-d\u00fbr. But in the books, this was built a full 200 years before Sauron reached Eregion and manipulated the Elves there into making the Rings of Power, which already happened quite decisively in season 2.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-13\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"bg\">Sauron actually spent 300 years in Eregion before he even started forging the Rings of Power with Celebrimbor, which, perhaps wisely, the show skipped over. The Rings of Power season 2 launched straight into the creation of the rings after Sauron arrived, and ended with the sack of Eregion, which happened in the books nearly 500 years after Sauron arrived.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-14\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"bl\">The show\u2019s N\u00famenor storyline takes place thousands of years after Sauron arrives in Eregion to make the Rings of Power, which fans pointed out in season 1. Some also pointed out that Gandalf arrived in Middle-earth in the Third Age, not the Second, as the show depicts. That is more of a timeline scramble than a compression. Although in late writings Tolkien never published in his lifetime, Tolkien toyed with having some of the Wizards arrive in the Second Age.<\/p>\n<p id=\"inline-text-15\" class=\"my-[18px] [&amp;_a]:text-secondary my-f-1\" q:key=\"0\" q:id=\"bq\">The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power season 3 <a href=\"https:\/\/winteriscoming.net\/the-rings-of-power-season-3-release-date-revealed\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">premieres<\/a> on Prime Video on November 11, 2026. 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