{"id":647739,"date":"2026-11-01T10:38:11","date_gmt":"2026-11-01T10:38:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/647739\/"},"modified":"2026-11-01T10:38:11","modified_gmt":"2026-11-01T10:38:11","slug":"stanford-williams-make-final-pitches-on-qa-as-election-nears","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/647739\/","title":{"rendered":"Stanford, Williams make final pitches on Q+A as election nears"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  [&amp;_p]:tit-sub-xl tit-sub-xl md:[&amp;_p]:d-tit-sub-xl md:d-tit-sub-xl mb-[1.3rem]\">Senior National MP Erica Stanford has called the timing of a critical Waitangi Tribunal report released a week before the election \u201cinteresting\u201d, while Labour\u2019s Arena Williams says Air New Zealand could be targeted under a price gouging law the party wants if elected.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">The tribunal found the Crown breached the principle of partnership by \u201cacting unilaterally and abruptly\u201d in removing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.teaonews.co.nz\/2026\/10\/31\/schools-treaty-decision-blindsided-maori-and-crown-should-apologise-waitangi-tribunal-says\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">school boards\u2019 obligation<\/a> to give effect to te Tiriti.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tvnz.co.nz\/player\/newsclip\/jack-tame-challenges-erica-stanford-over-waitangi-tribunal-report\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jack Tame challenges Erica Stanford over Waitangi Tribunal report &#8211; watch on TVNZ+<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Asked on Q+A this morning whether she knew the report was coming this week, Stanford said: \u201cI suspected it probably would.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Interviewer Jack Tame asked why she thought that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">&#8220;Well, it\u2019s just interesting timing. It\u2019s all I\u2019ll say,&#8221; the party&#8217;s education spokesperson said, adding that &#8220;well, we&#8217;re a week out from an election. It is what it is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Asked whether she thought the tribunal had weaponised the timing, Stanford said: \u201cOh, look, I\u2019m not going to get into that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">She defended the priorities of the coalition. \u201cWhat I will not apologise for is raising M\u0101ori achievement, because that\u2019s what we\u2019re doing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Throughout the interview, the education spokesperson framed her argument as National\u2019s focus on \u201cvalue\u201d, accusing the previous Labour government of simply \u201cdoling out cash\u201d to schools without measuring money was well used.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Meanwhile, Stanford \u2013 who is in a safe blue seat as an electorate MP \u2013 said she was confident about the election result for her party, based on National\u2019s own polling.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cI&#8217;m really confident that we&#8217;re going to get there. When I look at the statistics in our own internal polling, I\u2019m very very confident,&#8221; she said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">&#8220;It means that you have to get out there and party vote National. Don\u2019t get cute about it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Speaking to RNZ on Thursday, Labour campaign chairperson Kieran McAnulty claimed Labour\u2019s internal numbers had the party in front.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Both major parties have leaned on their internal numbers despite the fact that the combined share of votes for the big two is at its lowest levels ever.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Stanford is one of National\u2019s most senior ministers in the coalition government \u2013 holding the education and immigration portfolios. Earlier in the year, she was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.1news.co.nz\/2026\/08\/13\/analysis-luxon-survives-but-how-long-for\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">heavily rumoured<\/a> to be a leadership contender against party leader Christopher Luxon \u2013 speculation she denied.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/11\/arena-williams-left-and-erica-stanford-right-YAFHE7N7KJACTKYUWUXDKPWCRI.png\" alt=\"Arena Williams (left) and Erica Stanford (right)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"ImageMetadata__MetadataParagraph-sc-hi5x8q-0 cWTYyG image-metadata\">Arena Williams (left) and Erica Stanford (right) (Source: Q and A)<\/p>\n<p>Williams zeroes in on excess profits<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Meanwhile Labour&#8217;s commerce spokesperson Arena Williams \u2013 an increasingly high-profile opposition spokesperson \u2013 said the party\u2019s proposed anti-price gouging law could apply to Air New Zealand, because it has substantial market power.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tvnz.co.nz\/player\/newsclip\/labours-arena-williams-on-gang-issue-that-led-to-resignation\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Labour&#8217;s Arena Williams on gang issue that led to resignation &#8211; watch on TVNZ+<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">She gave the example of a mother flying to a family event during the school holidays.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cYou would be looking at those prices and thinking they have tripled for this period. They are much, much higher than they would otherwise be if Jetstar was running the route at the same time,&#8221; Williams told Q+A.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cWe need to make sure that price gouging rules apply to these things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Williams was also challenged on Labour&#8217;s position of excess supermarket profits. The party has proposed separating wholesale and retail functions of the two big players.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Speaking on Q+A, she pointed to Commerce Commission findings of up to $1 million a day in excess profits in the $25 billion industry. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">But Tame said that spread across the whole population, the roughly $365 million a year came to about $1.50 a week per person.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cIt\u2019s not actually that much once you spread it over the entire population,\u201d Tame said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Williams said the figure mattered for Kiwis who had nowhere else to go to shop.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cWhen you think about the people who are going to the supermarket and they cannot choose to go to another grocer&#8230; we want to make sure that those New Zealanders are getting the best deal for their money when every dollar counts&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Aftermath of gangs scandal lingers<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Stanford was also asked about National MPs criticising opposition MPs over meetings with gang members in recent weeks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Stanford, who has led the Government\u2019s response to the Royal Commission into Abuse in state care, was asked whether she had reminded colleagues of the role that abuse in state care played in the rise of gangs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-greyDarkFaded\">National has dropped back from last week but Labour has failed to gain. (Source: 1News)<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cWe are very aware of the impacts of state abuse in care, right? No one needs to be reminded of that,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Stanford emphasised that most people abused in care did not go on to commit serious violent crimes or join gangs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cI just think there\u2019s a very big difference between going to a gang pad and trying to get their votes than my role of making sure that we\u2019re dealing with victims of state abuse in care fairly and reasonably,&#8221; the spokesperson said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">&#8220;Those two things are poles apart, and we should not conflate them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Meanwhile Williams, who campaigned alongside Labour&#8217;s ex-candidate for T\u0101maki Makaurau in the past, said she did not know beforehand that the now independent Kerrin Leoni planned to attend an event with gang members amid her campaign.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-greyDarkFaded\">New footage from the event was shared online. (Source: 1News)<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">\u201cWe all have to look after each other, and this was a mistake. It was a mistake that she has admitted to, and the penalty that she has paid is high.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Leoni <a href=\"https:\/\/www.1news.co.nz\/2026\/10\/23\/labours-leoni-resigns-after-gang-campaigning-video-emerges\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">resigned over the event<\/a> after it was reported on, drawing sustained criticism from opposing parties.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">For the full interviews, watch the videos above<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText  lg mb-4\">Q+A with Jack Tame is made with the support of New Zealand On Air<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Senior National MP Erica Stanford has called the timing of a critical Waitangi Tribunal report released a week&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":647740,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[84,8028,11507,111,43,139,69,135],"class_list":["post-647739","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-zealand","tag-education","tag-labour-party","tag-national-party","tag-new-zealand","tag-news","tag-newzealand","tag-nz","tag-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/647739","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=647739"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/647739\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/647740"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=647739"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=647739"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=647739"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}