{"id":85124,"date":"2025-10-17T21:35:10","date_gmt":"2025-10-17T21:35:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/85124\/"},"modified":"2025-10-17T21:35:10","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T21:35:10","slug":"nightmare-calculation-may-be-too-tricky-for-even-quantum-computers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/85124\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Nightmare\u2019 calculation may be too tricky for even quantum computers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"Image\" alt=\"\" width=\"1350\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/SEI_270616406.jpg\"   loading=\"eager\" fetchpriority=\"high\" data-image-context=\"Article\" data-image-id=\"2500578\" data-caption=\"Some problems are too hard for even quantum computers\" data-credit=\"Yaroslav Kushta\/Getty Images\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"ArticleImageCaption__Title\">Some problems are too hard for even quantum computers<\/p>\n<p class=\"ArticleImageCaption__Credit\">Yaroslav Kushta\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Researchers have identified a \u201cnightmare scenario\u201d calculation related to exotic types of quantum matter that would be impossible to solve, even for a very efficient quantum computer.<\/p>\n<p>Without the complexity of quantum states of matter, determining the phase of a material can be relatively simple. Take water, for example \u2013 it is straightforward to tell whether it is in a solid or liquid phase. The quantum version of this task, however, can be a lot more daunting. <a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/citations?user=_lxZu14AAAAJ&amp;hl=en\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Thomas Schuster<\/a> at the California Institute of Technology and his colleagues have now proven identifying quantum phases of matter can get too difficult even for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2499714-what-makes-a-quantum-computer-good\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">quantum computers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>They mathematically analysed a scenario where a quantum computer is presented with a set of measurements about a quantum state of an object and has to identify <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2464444-elusive-phase-change-finally-spotted-in-a-quantum-simulator\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">its phase<\/a>. Schuster says this is not always an impossible problem, but his team proved for a substantial portion of quantum phases of matter \u2013 the more exotic relatives of liquid water and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2357007-entirely-new-type-of-ice-made-using-extremely-cold-steel-balls\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ice<\/a>, such as \u201ctopological\u201d phases that feature odd electric currents \u2013 a quantum computer may need to calculate for an impossibly long time. The situation is like the worst version of a lab experiment where identifying the properties of a sample would require keeping an instrument on for billions or trillions of years.<\/p>\n<p>This doesn\u2019t make quantum computers practically obsolete for this task. Schuster says these phases are unlikely to show up in actual experiments with materials or quantum computers \u2013 they are more of a diagnostic for where our understanding of quantum computation is currently lacking than an imminent practical threat. \u201cThey\u2019re like a nightmare scenario that would be very bad if it appears. It probably doesn\u2019t appear, but we should understand it better,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/computerscience.uchicago.edu\/people\/william-fefferman\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Bill Fefferman<\/a> at the University of Chicago in Illinois says this course of study opens intriguing questions about what computers can do in general. \u201cThis may be saying something about the limits of computation more broadly, that despite attaining dramatic speed-ups for certain specific tasks, there will always be tasks that are still too hard even for efficient quantum computers,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Mathematically, the new study connects facets of quantum information science that are used in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/2481513-breaking-encryption-with-a-quantum-computer-just-got-20-times-easier\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">quantum cryptography<\/a> with ideas fundamental to the physics of matter, so it could also help advance both, he says.<\/p>\n<p>Going forward, the team wants to expand their analysis to quantum phases of matter that are more energetic, or excited, which are known to be hard to compute even more broadly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ArticleTopics__Heading\">Topics:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Some problems are too hard for even quantum computers Yaroslav Kushta\/Getty Images Researchers have identified a \u201cnightmare scenario\u201d&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":85125,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[371,111,139,69,375,145],"class_list":{"0":"post-85124","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-computing","8":"tag-computing","9":"tag-new-zealand","10":"tag-newzealand","11":"tag-nz","12":"tag-quantum-computing","13":"tag-technology"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/85124","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=85124"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/85124\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/85125"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=85124"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=85124"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=85124"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}