{"id":85165,"date":"2025-10-17T22:08:06","date_gmt":"2025-10-17T22:08:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/85165\/"},"modified":"2025-10-17T22:08:06","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T22:08:06","slug":"the-guide-213-should-we-mourn-the-demise-of-tv-channels-culture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/nz\/85165\/","title":{"rendered":"The Guide #213: Should we mourn the demise of TV channels? | Culture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">For seasoned tea-leaf readers of the future of TV in the UK, two stories will have stood out this week, swirling around at the bottom of their cups. There was the news that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/articles\/cdr612yz8p0o\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">MTV is shutting down its music channels<\/a> \u2013 sad for those of us who misspent their youth watching them, though hardly surprising either, given MTV\u2019s decades-long shift away from music and towards rolling repeats of Teen Mom and shows about tattooists. And there was a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/media\/2025\/oct\/11\/uk-tv-producers-mourn-decline-hot-9pm-slot\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">media piece in the Guardian<\/a> about the demise of British TV\u2019s once-gold plated 9pm slot, which for the first time last month failed to achieve a rating of 1m or more among any of the major broadcasters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">That second story was a little surprising. Overnight viewing figures are in constant decline in the streaming age, but even by those standards, not one solitary rating over 1m is eye-catching.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">It will naturally prompt the usual soul-searching about the end of appointment viewing: the whole country watching the same thing at the same time, families sat in the glow of the old cathode ray, kettle on in the ad break, et cetera. I\u2019m not sure about that: appointment viewing, though not what it was, still lives on through live sport and certain blue-chip (often reality) shows (The Celebrity Traitors managed to attract some <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2025\/10\/celia-imrie-fart-bbc-the-celebrity-traitors-ratings-1236587980\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">impressive ratings<\/a> in that very same 9pm slot this week). But what the stories do underscore is something I\u2019ve been thinking for a while: that TV channels, the places where we used to go to watch that appointment viewing, increasingly feel like an anachronism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">As a teenager I would make a beeline for Channel 4 on Friday night to watch whatever the new comedy was that was airing in its post-watershed slot, a show that existed in the lineage of a murderer\u2019s row of classics, stretching right back to the debut of The Comic Strip Presents on the launch night of Channel 4. When viewers tuned in to watch a series such as Spaced, Peep Show or Garth Marenghi\u2019s Darkplace, plenty of them would have done so not because of the talent involved \u2013 the cast and creators of those were pretty much unknowns outside comedy circles at that point \u2013 but because of that lineage. We trusted Channel 4 to deliver a good new comedy; its tastes and sensibilities broadly mapped on to our own.<\/p>\n<p>Friday night appointment viewing \u2026 Peep Show. Photograph: Linda Nylind\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">All the channels used to have that sort of distinct identity, rooted in their history. Are your tastes broad and mass market? Stick on BBC One or ITV. After something a little more rarefied? Try BBC Two (or formerly BBC Four). Or something a little more youth-skewing? Head towards BBC Three, ITV2 and E4. Or are you into air friers, documentaries about shopping centres and talking heads remembering the 80s? Off to Channel 5 you go. And then there\u2019s the constellation of other channels on digital and what we used to call satellite, each catering for a certain set of tastes and sensibilities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Those sensibilities still exist today, of course \u2013 you can still trust Channel 4 to find great comic talent (I\u2019m looking forward to seeing their upcoming comedy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.channel4.com\/press\/news\/channel-4-announces-brand-new-scripted-comedy-series-make-movie-sam-campbell\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Make That Movie<\/a>, starring gonzo Aussie comic Sam Campbell). But audience fealty to those channels doesn\u2019t really exist in the same way. Nowadays, I\u2019d argue that people are as likely to follow the talent around \u2013 someone like Jack Thorne, who bounces between BBC (Best Interests, the forthcoming Lord of the Flies series), ITV (The Hack) and Netflix (Adolescence, Toxic Town) \u2013 or devote attention to the production company involved in a show (see the A24 logo, now appearing on the title cards of Some Brave Girls and Dreaming Whilst Black).<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Simultaneously, the broadcasters have sought to downplay the very idea of these channels on their streaming platforms, the place where most people now watch their shows. On its homepage, iPlayer, for example, no longer tells you whether a show such as Film Club is BBC One, Two or Three (it\u2019s Three, for the record). Instead, everything sloshes together in one big punchbowl of programming, the arts docs swimming alongside the soaps, the true-crime series next to the panel shows. Which makes sense, really: after all, in the age of streaming the aim is to keep people on your platform for as long as possible, so you need to illustrate the boundlessness of your content, low and high. But it does give a slight feeling of formlessness, of every streaming platform feeling a bit similar to one another. (Disney+ is a bit of an outlier here, splitting the platform into individual channels, including a section for National Geographic and \u2013 confusingly for UK viewers \u2013 a recently rebranded tab dedicated to US streamer Hulu, for more mature content.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">All of those broadcasters are of course chasing Netflix, a platform that wants to replace TV wholesale, and thus has little interest in the idea of individual \u201cchannels\u201d. Does Netflix have a sensibility? Perhaps, just about \u2013 though as it grows ever bigger that feels less evident. It wants to be an everything shop. That\u2019s because Netflix is chasing YouTube \u2013 it\u2019s why they just <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vulture.com\/article\/spotify-netflix-video-podcasts-deal-ringer-network.html?ueid=c1658bc25f6dbe0409a2b7a0ef5e3913&amp;utm_source=Sailthru&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Buffering%20-%20October%2016%2C%202025&amp;utm_term=Subscription%20List%20-%20Buffering\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">signed a deal with Spotify<\/a> to broadcast video versions of some of their podcasts, video podcasts being a huge market that YouTube has so far pretty much had to itself. YouTube \u2013 with its billions of videos, ranging from shonky home movies right up to the highest of high-production series \u2013 is the ultimate example of this formless punchbowl of content, algorithmically guided but entirely absent of a sensibility.<\/p>\n<p><a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"#EmailSignup-skip-link-9\" class=\"dcr-jzxpee\">skip past newsletter promotion<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1xjndtj\">Get our weekly pop culture email, free in your inbox every Friday<\/p>\n<p>Privacy Notice: Newsletters may contain information about charities, online ads, and content funded by outside parties. If you do not have an account, we will create a guest account for you on <a data-ignore=\"global-link-styling\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" class=\"dcr-1rjy2q9\" target=\"_blank\">theguardian.com<\/a> to send you this newsletter. You can complete full registration at any time. 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At their best they play the same role as the best film studios and record labels, places that talented people gravitate towards, and audiences implicitly trust. 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