Brovdi’s strategy is not only built on long-range strikes.
He talks, at length, about another priority: reducing Russia’s advantage in terms of manpower.
The issue has become even more acute for Ukraine as it struggles to mobilise men for the front: “Those who wanted to fight are already fighting,” the commander accepts.
So his crews are under direct orders to kill more enemy soldiers each month than Russia can recruit. That’s over 30,000 men a month.
“30% of all drone strikes have to be against military personnel,” Brovdi is clear. “You can call it a kill plan, yes, and right now we are exceeding it.”
He says they’ve met their target for four months in a row.
I can’t confirm that data, but Brovdi tells me his men do exactly that: the death of each soldier has to be proved by video, or it doesn’t count.
Some of those clips play on a grim loop on screens in the command centre and Brovdi also posts them on Telegram, where he styles his drone forces as the “birds” and their Russian prey as “worms” to hunt and destroy.
“The greatest mass killing of an enemy in the history of mankind is taking place in this room,” he says at one point, gesturing at the screens around us.
It is brutal talk, from a softly spoken man, but Brovdi refuses to be “gnawed by pity”.
Russian troops are far beyond their own borders, he says, sent by Putin “who wants to destroy our nation”.
“If we don’t kill them, they kill us. That is clear.”