{"id":124584,"date":"2025-09-09T06:56:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-09T06:56:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/124584\/"},"modified":"2025-09-09T06:56:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-09T06:56:07","slug":"guys-i-dont-agree-please-the-other-monza-team-orders-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/124584\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Guys, I don&#8217;t agree, please&#8217; &#8211; The other Monza team orders debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>McLaren wasn&#8217;t the only team with a team orders dispute that left one of its drivers frustrated in the middle of Formula 1&#8217;s Italian Grand Prix.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Williams was in the hunt for a double points finish when it chose to swap its drivers Carlos Sainz and Alex Albon, while they were eighth and ninth on lap 25 of 53.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sainz was running a long opening stint on the medium tyres, with Albon the highest-placed driver to start on the hard tyres.<\/p>\n<p>But Sainz was costing Albon time in his fight with those midfield drivers who had already pitted, such as Gabriel Bortoleto&#8217;s Sauber.<\/p>\n<p>By lap 23, Sainz was really struggling on his mediums, locking up and cutting across the run-off at the Variante chicane.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>One lap later, while on the start\/finish straight, Williams told Sainz to let Albon through at Turn 4, to which Sainz asked why Williams didn&#8217;t just pit him at the end of that lap instead to release Albon and relieve Sainz of his ageing mediums.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think there&#8217;s more to win by\u2026guys, I don&#8217;t agree, please,&#8221; he told his engineer.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>His engineer replied: &#8220;OK, the situation is you box now and you&#8217;re behind five cars and you&#8217;ll be stuck in a DRS train, their pace is not good enough, you&#8217;re still pulling away from them.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think we need to stay out and follow the [team order] instruction.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Once through the Ascari chicane, Sainz said &#8220;Copy, let&#8217;s see if Alex can pull [me along with] the DRS&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Sainz obeyed the team order on the next lap and allowed Albon through by sticking to the racing line and lifting off the throttle early into Turn 4 (the second chicane).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Albon did pull away thereafter, closing the gap to Kimi Antonelli&#8217;s Mercedes in front &#8211; and he soon dropped Sainz, who quickly declared &#8220;I want the hard, it&#8217;s the strongest tyre by far&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sainz pitted on lap 30 for those hard tyres, but any chance of making use of them or scoring points was ruined by his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.the-race.com\/formula-1\/ollie-bearman-one-incident-from-f1-race-ban-carlos-sainz-clash\/\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">clash with Ollie Bearman&#8217;s Haas<\/a> 10 laps later.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/XPB_1372009_HiRes-2.jpg\" class=\"kg-image\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>The team order worked a treat for Albon, though. He was able to catch and pass Antonelli&#8217;s Mercedes &#8211; despite some &#8220;erratic driving&#8221; from Antonelli that the stewards took a dim view of.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That meant a seventh-place finish on merit for Albon and Williams.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>After the race, Sainz said there wasn&#8217;t any reluctance to the team order once he had &#8220;perspective of the big picture of the race&#8221; from his engineer.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In fact, it was team-mate Albon who was somewhat indifferent to making the swap at the time\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;It was awkward&#8217;<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/XPB_1371826_HiRes.jpg\" class=\"kg-image\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1335\"  \/><\/p>\n<p>There was very little radio chatter on Albon&#8217;s side about Sainz stepping aside, with comments about Sainz&#8217;s tyres going off and then Albon&#8217;s engineer informing Albon that the team was discussing what to do.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;To be honest, I didn&#8217;t speak too much. I was just waiting in many ways,&#8221; Albon explained after the race.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We didn&#8217;t really need to swap positions in the plan, but basically, when Carlos did have clean air, he was quick relative to the people that boxed. But I was even quicker on the harder tyres.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In a weird way, it was kind of compromising my race. It&#8217;s awkward because, actually, Carlos&#8217; pace improved to the point where he was overcutting some cars. You&#8217;ve got to let him do his stint.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Once we got clean air, we pushed on, and I think we handled it well as a team. I don&#8217;t think there were any issues.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I definitely wasn&#8217;t fighting to have the clean air. I was pretty happy chilling behind him, but it worked out.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Albon was surprised by the pace he had once Sainz released him as he chased down Antonelli&#8217;s Mercedes and beat and passed him on merit.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It was the right move and I think I went maybe half a second quicker once I got past,&#8221; Albon said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to know, though, around Monza because you basically have such a huge slipstream and you don&#8217;t know how much time you can make up through the corners to offset the slipstream, if that makes sense.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So that&#8217;s why [behind him] I was like, \u2018yeah, I&#8217;m quicker, but I&#8217;m fine. I&#8217;m fine to chill out here&#8217;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Actually, I was most probably quicker than I thought I was. And so once I did get the clean air, I made another step.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But realistically, we just needed clear air because the raw pace of the car has been good all weekend. You&#8217;ve seen it through practice.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Once we got clean air in the race, we could show the pace, that pace, and once we could showcase the pace, you could see the P7 was actually quite a comfortable race for us.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"McLaren wasn&#8217;t the only team with a team orders dispute that left one of its drivers frustrated in&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":124585,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[1687,372,6537,101,56,54,55],"class_list":["post-124584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-f1","tag-f1","tag-formula-1","tag-formula1","tag-sports","tag-uk","tag-united-kingdom","tag-unitedkingdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/124584","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=124584"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/124584\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/124585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=124584"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=124584"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=124584"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}