{"id":180990,"date":"2025-10-06T00:51:14","date_gmt":"2025-10-06T00:51:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/180990\/"},"modified":"2025-10-06T00:51:14","modified_gmt":"2025-10-06T00:51:14","slug":"decades-old-conversion-therapy-resurfaces-in-todays-trans-youth-healthcare-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/180990\/","title":{"rendered":"Decades-old &#8216;conversion therapy&#8217; resurfaces in today&#8217;s trans youth healthcare debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">When Jayne McFadyen was 10 years old, she was admitted to a state-run psychiatric hospital in Perth.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Her &#8220;condition&#8221;, as doctors described it, was that she wanted to be a girl.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That was in 1975.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">For nearly six months, Jayne lived at Stubbs Terrace Children&#8217;s Psychiatric Hospital under the care of doctors who considered her &#8220;gender disordered&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She was subjected to constant surveillance, clothing checks, and humiliating inspections.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Black and white photo of a young male presenting person.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/c21792d7e842989aac612e9a2324ab96\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">As a young person, Jayne McFadyen felt her body didn&#8217;t match who she was inside. (Supplied: Jayne McFadyen)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If I had to go to the toilet \u2026 I&#8217;d have the door open so they could check that I wasn&#8217;t just sitting down to pee. That I actually stood like a boy and urinated,&#8221;  Jayne said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;If I was playing solely with a group of girls, they&#8217;d make me then go and play with the boys.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She was also cut off from her parents, except for sleeping at home on one night of the weekend.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;What they did was a form of conversion therapy,&#8221; Jayne, a transgender woman, said, looking back five decades later.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;When I came out, I had suppressed my sense of gender so far down because I was worried that should I express anything feminine \u2026 I would be sent back to the psych hospital.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I was so terrified.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"An old red brick building surrounded by trees\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1e1633b921ec10db10db47c03e0bc0ff\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The site of the Stubbs Terrace children&#8217;s psychiatric hospital in Perth, which is no longer operational. (ABC News: Keana Naughton)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Now 60, Jayne has discovered her experience may have been recorded in a decades-old medical study that is shaping decisions affecting the lives of trans youth today \u2014 and she is determined to set the record straight.<\/p>\n<p>A forgotten report, revived<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">In 1987, the Medical Journal of Australia published a paper titled Gender-disordered children: does inpatient treatment help? by Robert Kosky, then director of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry Services in Western Australia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">It described eight children, all under 12, who were hospitalised at Stubbs Terrace between 1975 and 1980 for what the paper called &#8220;gender identity disorder&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">The children were separated from their families and treated for months at a time. The paper argued their &#8220;cross-gender behaviours&#8221; were the result of inappropriate family dynamics \u2014 and suggested the hospital program corrected them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">When Anja Ravine, a trans youth health researcher at the Murdoch Children&#8217;s Research Institute, came across it decades later, she was alarmed.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A woman with blonde hair wearing a brown blouse\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/630ff533a86fc12363e41020ce4efab3\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Anja Ravine (left) says &#8220;conversion&#8221; practices cause long-term harm and leave psychological scars. (ABC News: Keana Naughton)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Older studies are being used to influence the current debate about trans healthcare,&#8221; Dr Ravine told 7.30.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It&#8217;s implicit that they were expecting gender identity to return to what was expected. So that is really within the definition of conversion therapy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A research paper\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/aad855a313501c663c13e56b995ceb7c\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">A controversial research paper from 1987 describing gender-diverse children as &#8220;gender disordered&#8221; is being cited by opponents of gender-affirming care today. (ABC News: Greg Nelson)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Efforts to suppress or change a person&#8217;s gender identity or sexuality, often referred to as &#8220;conversion therapy&#8221;, are now illegal in most parts of Australia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;We know now that people who&#8217;ve been exposed to this actually carry long-term psychological scars. It&#8217;s very harmful,&#8221; Dr Ravine said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Despite being nearly 40 years old, the Kosky paper is regularly cited by opponents of gender-affirming care in submissions to lawmakers, courts and medical regulators around the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Even in Australia, the National Association of Practising Psychiatrists, has written a clinical guide on how doctors should care for gender diverse youth that relies heavily on the paper.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Dr Ravine said that the study being used is &#8220;deeply troubling&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Meeting Jayne<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Through a mutual friend, Dr Ravine was introduced to Jayne, whose own experience resembled one of the children referenced in \u00a0Dr Kosky&#8217;s1978 paper.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;The one I immediately identified with was case study five,&#8221; Jayne recalled, citing the report, which read &#8217;10 [years old], male, wants to be a girl&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Because of privacy laws, the actual names of the children who were admitted aren&#8217;t accessible, but Jayne&#8217;s hospital admission dates and medical records align closely with the clinical details supplied for one of the children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It has to be me,&#8221; she told 7.30.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"02102025_AnjaPerthFacility_PhotographerKeanaNaughton (10)\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/8fd75d3ba167cd6311cefad81f5949e0\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Anja Ravine and Jayne McFadyen visit the site of the treatment facility. (ABC News: Keana Naughton)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Jayne disputes some of the details in the report.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">The paper claimed that no conscious attempt was made by staff members to encourage masculine or feminine behaviours.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;When I looked at the actual admissions sheet, it actually stated on there that my reason for admission was to stop me from being transsexual in adolescence,&#8221; she said..<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It was very much trying to get me to be a lot more masculine and to associate with men and other boys.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">The paper also claimed that &#8220;cross-dressing&#8221; had &#8220;stopped of its own accord&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I just thought: &#8216;that is so wrong&#8217; \u2026 supposedly they&#8217;d &#8216;cured&#8217; me. Yet here I was, I was trans,&#8221; Jayne said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And I just immediately knew that something had to be done to correct the record.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The cost of suppression<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">After her release from Stubbs Terrace, Jayne buried her identity as deeply as she could. She conformed outwardly, acting like a &#8220;blokey bloke&#8221;, afraid that any slip into femininity would land her back in the hospital.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"An old wedding photo of what appears to be a husband and wife\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/39d6eee745ee8870f88b64f21dff71e6\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Jayne McFadyen (second from the left) affirmed her gender many years after marrying Deb. (Supplied: Jayne McFadyen)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Jayne went on to marry and have children. But by her 30s, the weight of suppression became unbearable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Her wife, Deb, remembers watching her unravel.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;She was on a path of self-destruction and she was obviously depressed and angry,&#8221; Deb told 7.30,<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I said, &#8216;What&#8217;s going on?&#8217; And she told me about Stubbs Terrace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;So I said, &#8216;Why don&#8217;t you just move out for a bit and decide who you want to be or who you need to be?'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Jayne did. It was a major turning point in her life.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2020-04-06\/queer-and-lgbtqia-plus-support-services-in-australia\/12115292\" data-component=\"ContentLink\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">LGBTQIA+ community support services<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I could only see two ways out,&#8221; Jayne says. &#8220;One was suicide and the other one was to transition.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Twenty-two years after being discharged from hospital, Jayne decided to transition.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I felt a lot lighter in myself that I could finally see myself being who I always believed myself to be.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rewriting the record<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">For Dr Ravine, Jayne&#8217;s account underscores the damage done by practices like those at Stubbs Terrace.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Jayne just after she transitioned\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/347a1a157719fa9004d8a663487e1c2b\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">After being discharged from hospital, it would take 22 years for Jayne to come out as transgender. (Supplied: Jayne McFadyen)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;One thing that became very clear out of our conversations was that [Jayne] really wanted to ensure that the harm that this paper is now causing is stopped,&#8221; Dr Ravine said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And the best way she could think of doing that was to tell her story.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Now Jayne, Dr Ravine and a team of researchers have written a critique of Dr Kosky&#8217;s 1987 paper.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">It was published today in the Medical Journal of Australia \u2014 the same journal that carried the original report.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It&#8217;s important for lawmakers, the courts and policymakers to understand that past reports like this are really in the category of misinformation and they should be seen for what they are,&#8221; Dr Ravine says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Dr Kosky declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p>Getting on with life<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Through the ups and downs, Deb has been by Jayne&#8217;s side. They remarried in 2019.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Jayne&#8217;s outer shell was different, but intrinsically she was still the same person,&#8221; Deb said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It was beautiful for her to be able to be a bride too.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A couple standing outdoors in golden hour.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/f51e69d14c5b06c76aed0faa0b8139f9\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Jayne McFadyen and her wife Deb today. (ABC News: Greg Nelson)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Today, Jayne says she feels at peace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I absolutely feel good in my skin now I know who I am. I don&#8217;t feel uncomfortable anymore. I don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m putting on a mask whenever I walk out the doors,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I&#8217;m Jayne. That is it. If you don&#8217;t like me, you don&#8217;t like me. If you do like me, you do like me. 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