{"id":182154,"date":"2025-10-06T19:09:07","date_gmt":"2025-10-06T19:09:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/182154\/"},"modified":"2025-10-06T19:09:07","modified_gmt":"2025-10-06T19:09:07","slug":"jane-goodall-said-she-would-launch-trump-and-musk-on-one-way-trip-into-space-jane-goodall","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/182154\/","title":{"rendered":"Jane Goodall said she would launch Trump and Musk on one-way trip into space | Jane Goodall"},"content":{"rendered":"

In a lifetime studying the behavior of chimpanzees, Jane Goodall became something of an authority on the aggressiveness of alpha male adults. Now, in an interview released just days after her death, the famed primatologist reveals what she would do with Donald Trump<\/a>, Elon Musk and other human beings she saw as showing similar traits: launch them on a one-way trip into space.<\/p>\n

The insight into Goodall\u2019s thinking comes in the Netflix documentary Famous Last Words<\/a>, recorded in March and kept under wraps until her death last week<\/a> at the age of 91.<\/p>\n

\u201cThere are people I don\u2019t like, and I would like to put them on one of Musk\u2019s spaceships and send them all off to the planet he\u2019s sure he\u2019s going to discover,\u201d Goodall tells interviewer Brad Falchuk during the revelatory 55-minute special discussing her life, work and legacy.<\/p>\n

Would Musk, the SpaceX founder and Trump ally with a penchant for apparent Nazi-style salutes<\/a> and firing thousands of federal workers, be among them, Falchuk wanted to know.<\/p>\n

\u201cOh, absolutely. He\u2019d be the host. You can imagine who I\u2019d put on that spaceship. Along with Musk would be Trump and some of Trump\u2019s real supporters,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd then I would put [Russian president Vladimir] Putin in there, and I would put [China\u2019s] President Xi. I\u2019d certainly put [Israeli prime minister Benjamin] Netanyahu in there and his far-right government. Put them all on that spaceship and send them off.\u201d<\/p>\n

It is not the first time that Goodall, a champion of environmental advocacy, has been critical of Trump in particular.<\/p>\n

In a 2022 interview<\/a> with MSNBC she said he exhibited \u201cthe same sort of behavior as a male chimpanzee will show when he\u2019s competing for dominance with another. They\u2019re upright, they swagger, they project themselves as really more large and aggressive than they may actually be in order to intimidate their rivals.\u201d<\/p>\n

In the Netflix interview, the first in the streaming network\u2019s new series capturing the thoughts of iconic world figures to be broadcast only after their death, Goodall further explained her thinking.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe get, interestingly, two types of alpha. One does it all by aggression, and because they\u2019re strong and they fight, they don\u2019t last very long. Others do it by using their brains, like a young male will only challenge a higher ranking one if his friend, often his brother, is with him. And you know, they last much, much longer,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

She also examined the \u201cpolitization\u201d of behavior, and what her studies had taught her about aggressive behaviors shown by groups of humans and chimpanzees when confronted with something they perceived as hostile, even if no threat existed.<\/p>\n

\u201cChimps see a stranger from a neighboring community, and they get all excited, and the hair stands out, and they reach out and touch another, and they\u2019ve got these faces of anger and fear, and it catches, and the others catch that feeling that this one male has had, and they all become aggressive,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s contagious,\u201d she added. \u201cSome of these demonstrations that turn aggressive, it sweeps through them. They all want to become and join in and become aggressive. They\u2019re protecting their territory or fighting for dominance.\u201d<\/p>\n

Falchuk asked if she believed it was the same for humans. \u201cProbably, sometimes yes. But I truly believe that most people are decent,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

\u201cMy biggest hope is raising this new generation of compassionate citizens, roots and shoots. But do we have time? I don\u2019t know. It\u2019s a really grim time.\u201d<\/p>\n

Goodall, born in London five years before the start of the second world war, likened the fight against the darkness of present day politics to Britain standing up to Nazi Germany, and the \u201cspirit of obstinance\u201d shown by Winston Churchill.<\/p>\n

\u201cThat doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t have moments of depression, but then you come out of it and say, \u2018OK, I\u2019m not going to let them win,\u2019\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s like Churchill in the war, his famous speech, we\u2019ll fight them on the beaches, we\u2019ll fight them in the streets and the cities, then he turned aside to a friend and was heard to say, \u2018and we\u2019ll fight them at the ends of broken bottles because that\u2019s all we\u2019ve bloody well got\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n

Goodall, in a post-interview address to camera, ended with a message of encouragement for those fighting against political oppression and the climate emergency.<\/p>\n

\u201cEven today, when the planet is dark, there still is hope. Don\u2019t lose hope. If you lose hope, you become apathetic and do nothing,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd if you want to save what is still beautiful in this world \u2013 if you want to save the planet for the future generations, your grandchildren, their grandchildren \u2013 then think about the actions you take each day. Because, multiplied a million, a billion times, even small actions will make for great change.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In a lifetime studying the behavior of chimpanzees, Jane Goodall became something of an authority on the aggressiveness…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":182155,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[90,56,54,55,4407],"class_list":{"0":"post-182154","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-wildlife","8":"tag-science","9":"tag-uk","10":"tag-united-kingdom","11":"tag-unitedkingdom","12":"tag-wildlife"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182154","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=182154"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182154\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/182155"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=182154"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=182154"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=182154"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}