{"id":224984,"date":"2025-10-25T16:18:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-25T16:18:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/224984\/"},"modified":"2025-10-25T16:18:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-25T16:18:08","slug":"david-ornstein-shares-what-hes-heard-about-west-ham-signing-ivan-toney-and-man-united-duo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/224984\/","title":{"rendered":"David Ornstein shares what he&#8217;s heard about West Ham signing Ivan Toney and Man United duo"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>David Ornstein is convinced that West Ham United will do business in the January transfer window. He is less convinced, though, about the potential of Ivan Toney, Joshua Zirkzee or Kobbie Mainoo arriving at the London Stadium.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/news\/carlton-cole-shares-theory-about-why-andy-irving-is-playing-over-freddie-potts-at-west-ham\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Carlton Cole summed up the feelings of most Hammers supporters<\/a> as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/match-report\/ratings-west-ham-threaten-premier-league-record-after-leeds-loss-as-nuno-espirito-santo-gets-it-all-wrong-again\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Nuno Espirito Santo\u2019s side slumped to a 2-1 defeat at Leeds<\/a> on Friday night.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018January,\u2019 former striker Cole said, \u2018cannot come soon enough\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>One suspects that the man in charge of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/club\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">West Ham United<\/a> these days would find himself agreeing pretty emphatically with that point. Hammers News have been informed, by chief football correspondent Graeme Bailey, that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/news\/no-nonsense-nuno-espirito-santo-warns-west-ham-board-over-january-window-expectations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Nuno has already highlighted an issue<\/a> in the centre-forward department. <\/p>\n<p>Though you do not need a UEFA-A license to realise that Niclas Fullkrug is all at sea in the Premier League. Or that having a 33-year-old Callum Wilson and an unproven Callum Marshall as your back-ups is asking for trouble.<\/p>\n<p>Bailey reveals that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/transfer-news\/west-ham-in-talks-with-real-madrid-as-striker-with-raul-qualities-joins-endrick-on-wishlist\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">West Ham have held talks with Real Madrid<\/a> regarding potential loan deals for young duo Endrick and Gonzalo Garcia. <\/p>\n<p>If the Hammers elect for a more experienced, perhaps low-risk option, Brentford icon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/tag\/ivan-toney\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ivan Toney<\/a> and Manchester United benchwarmer <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/tag\/joshua-zirkzee\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Joshua Zirkzee<\/a> could enter the fray.<\/p>\n<p>But speaking to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uGlmwf_cnLk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">NBC Sports<\/a> on Friday, one of the most respected and reliable reporters in the UK media \u2013 David Ornstein \u2013 has played down the potential of Toney or Zirkzee ending the January window in a claret and blue jersey.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" loading=\"lazy\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/GettyImages-2217465503-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Joshua Zirkzee reacts after Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United - UEFA Europa League Final 2025\" class=\"wp-image-283137\" \/>Photo by Jonathan Moscrop\/Getty ImagesDavid Ornstein plays down West Ham United signing Ivan Toney or Joshua Zirkzee<\/p>\n<p>A club source has already told Hammers News that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/transfer-news\/ivan-toney-truth-emerges-for-west-ham-and-spurs-after-january-move-links\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ivan Toney is unlikely to re-join the Premier League<\/a> in early-2026. Not even with a World Cup place on the line.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/transfer-news\/ruben-amorim-admits-man-united-star-linked-with-west-ham-does-want-move\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ruben Amorim plans to keep Joshua Zirkzee<\/a> at Old Trafford for the foreseeable future. The same goes for Kobbie Mainoo, amid claims that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/transfer-news\/kobbie-mainoo-stance-explained-as-reporter-shares-what-nuno-has-asked-west-ham\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">West Ham could target Manchester United\u2019s academy graduate<\/a> in an attempt to beef up a drastically underperforming midfield.<\/p>\n<p>Ornstein reveals that unpopular chairman David Sullivan will still have a key role to play in the club\u2019s recruitment plans. But <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/news\/real-reason-nuno-espirito-santo-looks-happier-than-ever-after-joining-west-ham\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Nuno will have a say in West Ham\u2019s January plans<\/a> too, presumably alongside his extremely well-connected agent, Jorge Mendes.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJanuary, that transfer window is going to be led, I\u2019m told, by David Sullivan alongside Nuno Espirito Santo, tapping into West Ham\u2019s existing recruitment staff,\u201d says Ornstein. \u201cThey are interviewing for a new head of recruitment but it doesn\u2019t sound like there is anything imminent on that front.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am told by sources at the club that they are looking to bring in a few new players. A forward would surely be on the agenda, but not Ivan Toney. Other players are linked with them, Kobbie Mainoo and Joshua Zirkzee at Manchester United. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I think it\u2019s a pretty remote chance [that the Hammers get either of them]. We don\u2019t even know if they will be leaving Old Trafford. <\/p>\n<p>\u201c[West Ham] are going to make decisions on the big recruitment targets in mid-December, once Nuno has had a bit of time to settle in.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ornstein slams Tim Steidten and Kyle Macaulay missteps<\/p>\n<p>In truth, the Hammers are still paying the price for the ill-fated Tim Steidten era. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/news\/tim-steidtens-new-shame-as-west-ham-flop-is-named-worst-in-the-premier-league\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Steidten pushed for Niclas Fullkrug\u2019s signing<\/a> \u2013 a deal which looks more disastrous with every injury blow the German suffers. It was on his watch, meanwhile, that West Ham wasted eye-watering fees on Max Kilman, Jean-Clair Todibo, James Ward-Prowse and Luis Guilherme.<\/p>\n<p>Former head of recruitment, and Steidten\u2019s de-facto successor, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hammers.news\/news\/west-ham-make-one-thing-perfectly-clear-about-kyle-macaulay-now-watch-for-jorge-mendes-factor\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Kyle Macaulay left alongside Graham Potter<\/a> a few weeks ago.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you look at the Graham Potter and even the [Julen] Lopetegui eras, they were fairly disastrous, underlined by a lot of muddled thinking around recruitment and the recruitment work itself,\u201d Ornstein explains.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey had a sporting director in Tim Steidten, he spent a huge amount of money. He then left. With Potter came Kyle Macaulay as Head of Recruitment, and they bought yet more players who haven\u2019t worked thus far. <\/p>\n<p>\u201c[Mads] Hermansen, Fullkrug, Kilman at great expense, Todibo, nowhere near the level he was renowned for. And Callum Wilson has barely played at all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" loading=\"lazy\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/GettyImages-1471737046-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Ivan Toney during Brentford FC v Fulham FC - Premier League\" class=\"wp-image-283388\" \/>Photo by Alex Davidson\/Getty Images  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"David Ornstein is convinced that West Ham United will do business in the January transfer window. 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