{"id":232542,"date":"2025-10-29T18:48:11","date_gmt":"2025-10-29T18:48:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/232542\/"},"modified":"2025-10-29T18:48:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-29T18:48:11","slug":"arc-raiders-doesnt-ai-generate-guns-from-youtube-videos-embark-clarifies-thats-a-research-project-and-not-something-that-were-using-in-the-game-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/232542\/","title":{"rendered":"Arc Raiders doesn&#8217;t AI-generate guns from Youtube videos, Embark clarifies: &#8220;that&#8217;s a research project, and not something that we&#8217;re using in the game now&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#13;<br \/>\nLet&#8217;s get the hot potato out of the way without preamble: Embark&#8217;s extraction shooter <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockpapershotgun.com\/games\/arc-raiders\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Arc Raiders<\/a> doesn&#8217;t include any gun models generated from Youtube videos, executive producer Aleksander Gr\u00f8ndal has told RPS in an interview about the game&#8217;s usage of generative AI and machine learning technologies. &#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nThis clarification follows the partial online publication of an Edge magazine interview in which Embark CEO Patrick S\u00f6derlund <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockpapershotgun.com\/arc-raiders-boss-boasts-of-being-able-to-ai-generate-guns-from-youtube-videos-but-says-itll-never-replace-the-human-aspect\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">made various claims for the studio&#8217;s in-house tech<\/a>, including the suggestion that the developers &#8220;can take a video from YouTube, feed it through our tools and pipelines, and [produce] a 3D model of the weapon you had in that video.&#8221; According to Gr\u00f8ndal, this particular technology is not actually used in Arc Raiders. &#8220;That&#8217;s a research project, and that&#8217;s not something that we&#8217;re using in the game now,&#8221; he told me over a video call this Monday, following a sprawling and generally enjoyable hands-on.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nIf Arc doesn&#8217;t use AI generation for gun models, however, it does make use of generative AI. Ahead of our early access review this week (which I&#8217;m not writing, though I may put together a Take or two), I asked Gr\u00f8ndal to clear up some details. &#13;\n<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"button video\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9slTF7NJ7UI\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Watch on YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nAccording to Gr\u00f8ndal, Arc&#8217;s in-game generative AI implementation is limited to voiced barks &#8211; that is, exclamations such as &#8220;let&#8217;s go to objective B&#8221; &#8211; and similar, shorter pieces of more functional audio. These were produced by applying software models to voice data supplied by actors, a practice known as &#8220;text to speech&#8221;. As in the developer&#8217;s previous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockpapershotgun.com\/games\/the-finals\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Finals<\/a>, the voice actors in question have given consent for their recordings to be used for this purpose.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#8220;We find the voices that we like, the actors that we like, and then we make a contract with them about recording them,&#8221; Gr\u00f8ndal explained. &#8220;So we use them for the dialogue, generally speaking, that&#8217;s live recording. Then we also create a clone out of them, and we use that for small, shorter things in-game, like item names and stuff like that, or callouts in the game.&#8221;&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nThe AI generation of videogame voicework has been a focus in discussion of whether generative AI adoption will lead to job cuts and a general erosion of working opportunities, with big budget tools such as Microsoft&#8217;s Copilot often described as a way of magically increasing productivity without raising costs. In July last year, the US actors union <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockpapershotgun.com\/games\/sag-aftra\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">SAG-AFTRA<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockpapershotgun.com\/the-video-game-voice-actor-strike-is-over-with-new-ai-agreements-reached-over-digital-replicas\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">called a strike<\/a>, demanding that videogame publishers agree to proper constraints on what companies can do with recordings, to protect the livelihoods of performers. &#13;\n<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"A character wearing a robot helmet floats a cube in their hand in The Finals' Season 2\" data-autosize=\"crop_lossy\" data-lightbox=\"\" data-uri=\"the-finals-season-2-character-floating-cube.png\" height=\"1080\" loading=\"lazy\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 1.7777777777777777\" width=\"1920\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Image credit: Embark Studios<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nThe Finals has come under fire for its usage of text-to-speech, with Embark <a href=\"https:\/\/www.videogameschronicle.com\/news\/the-finals-studio-responds-to-backlash-at-its-decision-to-use-ai-voice-acting\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">protesting<\/a> back in 2023 that &#8220;making games without actors isn&#8217;t an end goal.&#8221; In my interview about Arc Raiders, I asked Gr\u00f8ndal for more specifics about Embark&#8217;s voice actor contracts &#8211; are there any limits on what the developers can do with that voice data? Gr\u00f8ndal was unable to go into specifics, partly because he didn&#8217;t have the information to hand, and partly for the usual confidentiality reasons, but I&#8217;ve followed up over email to ask if Embark can share some of the broad strokes.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nGr\u00f8ndal was, however, able to tell me more about other practices and technologies used in development of Arc Raiders that he thinks need to be explicitly distinguished from &#8220;generative AI&#8221;. &#8220;Apart from [text-to-speech], we don&#8217;t use any generative AI in the sense that we create content around that &#8211; maps or meshes or textures,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;We use photogrammetry, which is pretty common in the games industry today, where we take multiple photos of objects, and then we put them into software, they help us create a model from it. But that&#8217;s not [generative] AI &#8211; that&#8217;s been around for 15 years or so.&#8221;&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nHe also discussed the developer&#8217;s use of machine learning for animations. To give some brief context, machine learning is <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Machine_learning\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">an umbrella term <\/a>for the study and development of algorithms that can perform tasks without explicit instructions, which dates back several decades. Much like procedural generation &#8211; whereby developers devise rules for generators, rather than having the software derive its own rules from patterns in datasets &#8211; machine learning informs today&#8217;s better known generative AI tools, such as ChatGPT. But developers often use it to refer to technologies that pre-date the current genAI craze.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"A gaggle of backpack-lugging Arc Raiders players galloping through a sandy canyon with green vegetation here and there.\" data-autosize=\"crop_lossy\" data-lightbox=\"\" data-uri=\"ARC-Raiders_16-9_04.png\" height=\"2160\" loading=\"lazy\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 1.7777777777777777\" width=\"3840\"\/><\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"Several chunky insectile robots milling about in Arc Raiders, on a frosty map with a cloudy sky.\" data-autosize=\"crop_lossy\" data-lightbox=\"\" data-uri=\"ARC-Raiders_16-9_05.png\" height=\"2160\" loading=\"lazy\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 1.7777777777777777\" width=\"3840\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Image credit: Nexon<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nIn his Edge interview, S\u00f6derlund discussed the use of &#8220;AI&#8221; to create animations for certain enemies. &#8220;What if, instead of having to hand-animate or use mocap for every single frame, we created a model, gave it physical attributes, then used AI to train it to walk?&#8221; he said. Last week, I linked this remark to <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/embarkstudios\/transforming-animation-with-machine-learning-27ac694590c\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a Medium article<\/a> by Embark software engineer Tom Solberg, posted back in 2019, which describes how in-game spiderbots can be set up to walk believably by subjecting a software agent to different stimuli in a 3D test environment. &#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#8220;That&#8217;s machine learning that we have done, and that&#8217;s something that has been a research [project] for us for a long time, and that helps us to get some of that physicality into our robots,&#8221; Gr\u00f8ndal explained, when I asked about the relationship of this tech to Arc Raiders today. The technology is designed to &#8220;emulate what we have already created from hand,&#8221; he added, and the output isn&#8217;t a fully functional arachnobot adversary &#8211; it needs further work before it can form part of a videogame. &#8220;It&#8217;s nothing like, &#8216;hey, make this thing do it, and then off it goes&#8217;,&#8221; Gr\u00f8ndal said. &#8220;That&#8217;s far from it. It&#8217;s more that it can help support creation of some of the robots.&#8221;&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nWhile Solberg&#8217;s 2019 post does cite machine learning as a way to create fancy animations with a smaller team, Gr\u00f8ndal also insisted that Embark&#8217;s machine learning experiments are not capable of &#8220;replacing&#8221; developers &#8211; or at least, not for the moment. &#8220;That research that you&#8217;ve seen on the Medium post is from a long time ago, and none of that is necessarily applicable in runtime, as of a game engine, as of right now,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I can&#8217;t remember exactly the context in which that article was written, but it is not our ambition to replace any developer.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\n&#8220;Working with that type of technology is very hard,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t solve any immediate problems for you. So you will see some of our robots using machine learning, like you talked about, and just getting them to the point where [it doesn&#8217;t] completely break the illusion of some sort of robot &#8211; that was a massive amount of work. There weren&#8217;t any shortcuts there, to put it mildly.&#8221;&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p><img alt=\"A huge multiple-legged robot looming over a gun-toting player against blue skies in Arc Raiders.\" data-autosize=\"crop_lossy\" data-lightbox=\"\" data-uri=\"ARC-Raiders_16-9_13.png\" height=\"2160\" loading=\"lazy\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 1.7777777777777777\" width=\"3840\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Image credit: Nexon<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<br \/>\nCurrent discussion of generative AI is both justifiably heated and very confused. I think that&#8217;s partly due to ignorance on the part of journalists &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure my own reporting on generative AI has been very accurate or coherent, though I stand by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rockpapershotgun.com\/we-need-to-reclaim-softwares-wishing-well-from-the-cruelty-of-generative-ai\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">this piece on megabudget genAI &#8220;copilots&#8221;<\/a>. The videogame specialist press is structurally ill-equipped to deal with subjects like this: few of us have either the technical expertise or the thinking time to keep up with and critique such a rapidly changing sector. But a lot of the confusion is also down to freewheeling rhetoric on the part of executives and investors, who aim simply to hype generative AI as a concept, conflating new and older technologies that have very different applications.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>If Embark were to eventually use generative AI to fill out the game&#8217;s arsenal, it would make for some bleakly satisfying irony, because Arc Raiders is all about recycling scavenged parts. The game takes place in a world overrun by homicidal robots, ranging from waspish flying drones equipped with rapid-fire turrets to pouncing arachnid monstrosities. The surviving humans live in underground cities, with certain brave souls venturing to the surface via fortified elevators to harvest crafting components such as old batteries and cloth.&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>As such, all the game&#8217;s gun designs are DIY fantasies, rather than the flashy military boomsticks you find in similar shooters. There are functional correspondences to real-world light machineguns, scoped rifles and such, but everything broadly looks like it&#8217;s been hammered together out of fridge motors and coathangers. &#8220;We wanted them to have this makeshift feel, as a contrast to this perfect ARCs who have almost polished surfaces,&#8221; Gr\u00f8ndal told me. That improvised aesthetic also helps the weapons feel disposable, which is useful for a game whose hook is looting. &#8220;It&#8217;s part of the understanding with the Raiders that a weapon isn&#8217;t permanent,&#8221; Gr\u00f8ndal went on. &#8220;It&#8217;s not you and this rifle for the rest of your life. If it breaks you cobble something else together.&#8221;&#13;\n<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s perhaps too tempting to read Arc&#8217;s sheeny hunter-killer bots as metaphors for current fears about generative AI. Their smooth and seamless design, together with the mystery of their origins, makes me think of how opaque companies like OpenAI can be about which data they&#8217;re using to &#8220;train&#8221; their all-singing, all-dancing artificial companions. Arc Raiders at least grants me the catharsis of blowing these wily bots to bits.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"&#13; Let&#8217;s get the hot potato out of the way without preamble: Embark&#8217;s extraction shooter Arc Raiders doesn&#8217;t&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":232543,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[554,733,4308,86,56,54,55],"class_list":["post-232542","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-technology","tag-uk","tag-united-kingdom","tag-unitedkingdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/232542","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=232542"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/232542\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/232543"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=232542"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=232542"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=232542"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}