{"id":277322,"date":"2025-11-22T13:54:08","date_gmt":"2025-11-22T13:54:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/277322\/"},"modified":"2025-11-22T13:54:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-22T13:54:08","slug":"cop30-live-clown-show-talks-run-into-overtime-with-no-clarity-on-climate-deal-cop30","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/277322\/","title":{"rendered":"Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal | Cop30"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Key events<\/p>\n<p>Show key events only<\/p>\n<p>Please turn on JavaScript to use this feature<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">We are close to the beginning of the plenary. Our reporters on the ground say that delegates are rushing to the room. If you would like to watch along, the livestream will <a href=\"https:\/\/unfccc.int\/event\/closing-plenaries-of-cop-cmp-cma-2\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">appear here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921be3e8f080754102d168f#block-6921be3e8f080754102d168f\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a>Fossil fuel road map will not be in final agreement \u2013 Cop30 president<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Cop30 president Andre Correa do Lago has said that a roadmap for phasing out fossil fuels will not be in the final agreement, and Brazil will take charge of the issue separately instead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Speaking <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DRW4Gz0DhhZ\/?igsh=eGViYzF5NjI5cjFw\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">on Instagram<\/a> around 8:10am local time, do Lago said he was positive that countries would back the agreement and that they had been in the negotiating halls into the early hours. \u201cCountries worked together really well,\u201d he told the camera.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">At the end, do Lago says more on adaptation financing has been added to the text, but not language on phasing out fossil fuels, the main driver of global heating. Instead, the Brazilian government will oversee this as its own Cop30 initiative after the summit.<\/p>\n<p>COP30 President Andre Correa Do Lago speaks to the media during the UN Climate Change Conference (COP30), in Belem, Brazil, November 21, 2025.  Photograph: Anderson Coelho\/Reuters<a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921b9a68f08943ed37a3cfd#block-6921b9a68f08943ed37a3cfd\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Updated at\u00a008.44 EST<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">On the ground in Belem, the mood has changed ahead of the final plenary, which will begin in around 40 minutes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cAfter a sleepless night in Bel\u00e9m, negotiations have moved in a more positive direction than many feared 12 hours ago. What\u2019s emerging is a compromise that advances 1.5\u00b0C action, adaptation, and trade &#8211; and includes a provision that may not be called a \u2018fossil fuel roadmap,\u2019 but is clearly meant to achieve the same end. Brazil deserves credit for the energy it has invested across this COP cycle but must keep pushing. The next few hours will be pivotal in deciding whether COP30 stumbles or sprints across the finish line,\u201d says Clare Shakya, global managing director of climate with the Nature Conservancy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In the venue, people are already busy packing up pavilions. As my colleague Damian Carrington snapped this morning, the Saudis are already shutting up shop.<\/p>\n<p>Saudi Arabia\u2019s pavilion at Cop30 on 22nd November 2025.  Photograph: Damian Carrington<a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921b8218f08943ed37a3cf0#block-6921b8218f08943ed37a3cf0\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1763819648_655_Damian-Carrington,-R.png\" alt=\"Damian Carrington\" class=\"dcr-lysqes\"\/>Damian Carrington<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The US \u2013 by its absence not presence \u2013 has had a major impact on what appears likely to be a disappointing deal at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/cop30\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cop30<\/a> climate summit. This is because the US is the only country with the power to influence Saudi Arabia, observers say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The oil-rich kingdom has a decades-long history of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/nov\/15\/170000-a-minute-why-saudi-arabia-is-the-biggest-blocker-of-climate-action\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">obstructing the climate talks<\/a> to protect its lucrative industry and has been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/edf7503c-e6b8-4ba0-aafa-737f8ef6a37a\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">widely blamed<\/a> here in Bel\u00e9m for leading efforts to block any mention of fossil fuels. With Donald Trump calling climate change a \u201ccon job\u201d, the US did not send a delegation to Cop30 and is withdrawing from the Paris agreement. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2025\/nov\/18\/trump-bin-salman-visit-jamal-khashoggi\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">friendly meeting<\/a> with Trump on Tuesday.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cUnfortunately with the departure of the US, we have lost one of the most powerful countries,\u201d said Tom Rivett-Carnac, political strategist to the UN climate chief when the Paris agreement was done.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIn the years when I was involved in Cops, when the US is really behind an agreement and really wants to make it happen, and is prepared to exert its economic authority in bringing, for example, the Saudi Arabians round, then we can really do things,\u201d he <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/audio\/play\/m002mmhy\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told the BBC<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThe trouble I think we are experiencing in Brazil is we don\u2019t have that big push from the US and there is an emboldened attitude among the oil producing countries who feel there won\u2019t be a consequence for them if they delay.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Sources inside the negotiations have made the same point to the Guardian. The diplomatic might of the US, under presidents backing climate action, has often been a key factor in getting Cop deals over the line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">In October, bullying tactics by the US and a vote called by Saudi Arabia <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2025\/oct\/17\/shipping-emissions-levy-shelved-as-countries-bow-to-us-pressure\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">killed a plan<\/a> to place a small levy on the carbon emissions on shipping.<\/p>\n<p>Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Mohammed bin Salman and US President Donald Trump speaks at the US-Saudi Investment Forum at the John F. Kennedy Center on November 19, 2025. Photograph: Brendan Smialowski\/AFP\/Getty Images<a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921b5078f08943ed37a3ce2#block-6921b5078f08943ed37a3ce2\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a>What happens if too many people leave the summit?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">As <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/cop30\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cop30<\/a> continues to overrun, a growing concern is what happens if delegates start to leave the venue. For all UN meetings, a key percentage of government need to be in the room. If it slips below that figure, the meeting is adjourned and everyone goes home.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The excellent Ed King wrote about this in his <a href=\"https:\/\/climatediplobrief.substack.com\/p\/climate-diplomacy-brief-cop30-day-124\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Climate Diplomacy Brief<\/a> this morning:<\/p>\n<p>Quorum is key: as cruise ships leave, many delegates have nowhere to stay tonight and will be heading out. Pacific delegates and many UN staffers are among those impacted. Brazil faces a race against time. Lula faces the prospect of explaining to G20 leaders why a summit he hoped would propel him to election victory in 2026 has ended in abject failure, with little to no support from his Brics allies and Saudi Arabia, which tried to kill efforts to talk cuts on Friday.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Remember, while large countries can have delegations of a few dozen people, many developing countries only send one or two representatives. If you need to fly home from Belem to a Pacific island or central Africa, bookings are hard to move.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">At the biodiversity Cop16 in Cali last year, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2024\/nov\/03\/cop16-ends-in-disarry-and-indecision-despite-biodiversity-breakthroughs\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">meeting ended in disarray<\/a> after too many negotiators were forced to head home. The meeting had to be completed in Rome a few months later. That is a scenario we cannot rule out.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921a9678f08a77eddc22701#block-6921a9678f08a77eddc22701\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Updated at\u00a007.46 EST<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Ahead of the final plenary, I checked in with our environment editor Fiona Harvey in Belem to ask what we might expect in the next couple of hours. The word on the ground is that we should expect a final plenary to begin in the next 90 minutes or so. But in truth, it is unclear.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">This is what she told me:<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s as clear as mud. They have called the plenary for 10am Belem time but we don\u2019t know what is happening to the text or if they will try to gavel something through without that. It could be that there\u2019s a plenary and then it adjourns quite quickly for people to finish the negotiations \u2013 or they just try to barrel it all through. We just do not know.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Meanwhile, ministers are arriving at the venue.<\/p>\n<p>Britain\u2019s Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero Ed Miliband walks at the UN Climate Change Conference (COP30), in Belem, Brazil, November 22, 2025. Photograph: Adriano Machado\/ReutersWopke Hoekstra, European Commissioner for Climate, Net Zero and Clean Growth, arrives at the EU meeting room during the COP30 Photograph: Pablo Porci\u00fancula\/AFP\/Getty Images<a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921a5f78f080754102d15ca#block-6921a5f78f080754102d15ca\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Good morning and welcome to our coverage of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/cop30\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Cop30<\/a> in Belem.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">We are at the business end of the climate summit. Today appears to be the day that we will get an agreement in some form, but anything is still possible at this stage. Delegates are tired \u2013 ministers will have likely negotiated into the early hours \u2013 and return flights are getting closer. We are still waiting for a revised text for governments to debate at a closing plenary, which is set to begin at 10am local time (1pm in London). But as always, timings are flexible.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Cop30 president Andre Correa do Lago has arrived at the venue. He was photographed whispering into his phone a few minutes ago. Countries appear to be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2025\/nov\/21\/cop30-delegates-far-apart-on-phasing-out-fossil-fuels-and-cutting-carbon\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">still far apart<\/a> on any agreement to draw up a roadmap to transition away from fossil fuels. Can do Lago and his negotiating team thread the needle?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">If you would like to catch up on the state of play, our reporters on the ground have been hard at work summarising proceedings. Here is a summary of the headlines:<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The UK energy secretary Ed Miliband said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2025\/nov\/21\/miliband-cop30-creative-routes-roadmap-phase-out-fossil-fuel\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a deal to create a roadmap away from fossil fuels needed to happen \u201cone way or another\u201d<\/a> \u2013 even if it was a voluntary process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">One representative from a country vulnerable to the climate crisis said: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2025\/nov\/21\/cop30-climate-summit-brazil-negotiators-talks-developing-countries\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sometimes it\u2019s like we are arguing with robots<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Observers claimed the Arab group of nations had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/2025\/nov\/21\/cop30-climate-summit-brazil-negotiators-talks-developing-countries\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">warned any mention of phasing out fossil fuels in final negotiations would see the talks collapse<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The architect of the Paris climate deal, Laurence Tubiana, said countries should not fear pursuing a deal on a roadmap.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Turkey and Australia has agreed to the details on hosting next year\u2019s Cop31 summit, that will be held in Turkey. Turkey will take on the Cop31 presidency and an Australian \u2013 energy minister Chris Bowen \u2013 will be appointed vice-president and \u201cpresident of negotiations\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Africa governments were still pushing for a tripling of the finance available from rich countries to help the poor world adapt to the impacts of the climate crisis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">AP <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/brazil-cop30-c2c66ea017db8984102702320142ce76?utm_content=bufferddd82&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter.com&amp;utm_campaign=buffer\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">reported<\/a> that Juan Carlos Monterrey Gomez, a top negotiator for Panama, had said the decades-long United Nations process risks \u201cbecoming a clown show\u201d for the omission of burning of fuels such as oil, gas and coal as causes of global warming from the final text.<\/p>\n<p>COP30 President Andre Correa do Lago speaks on the phone during the UN Climate Change Conference (COP30), in Belem, Brazil, November 22, 2025.  Photograph: Adriano Machado\/Reuters<a href=\"mailto:?subject=Cop30 live: \u2018Clown show\u2019 talks run into overtime with no clarity on climate deal&amp;body=https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/environment\/live\/2025\/nov\/22\/cop30-climate-talks-deal-overtime-live-news?CMP=share_btn_url&amp;page=with%3Ablock-6921815b8f080754102d151d#block-6921815b8f080754102d151d\" type=\"button\" class=\"dcr-1mulgdf\">Share<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Updated at\u00a007.46 EST<\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Key events Show key events only Please turn on JavaScript to use this feature We are close to&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":277323,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[49,50,51,47,52,48],"class_list":{"0":"post-277322","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-headlines","8":"tag-headlines","9":"tag-news","10":"tag-top-news","11":"tag-top-stories","12":"tag-topnews","13":"tag-topstories"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277322","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=277322"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/277322\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/277323"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=277322"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=277322"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=277322"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}