{"id":296032,"date":"2025-12-03T03:16:14","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T03:16:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/296032\/"},"modified":"2025-12-03T03:16:14","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T03:16:14","slug":"ibm-ceo-has-doubts-that-big-techs-ai-spending-spree-will-pay-off","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/296032\/","title":{"rendered":"IBM CEO Has Doubts That Big Tech&#8217;s AI Spending Spree Will Pay Off"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>AI companies are spending billions on data centers in the race to <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/limits-large-language-models-chatgpt-agi-artificial-general-intelligence-openai-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">AGI<\/a>. IBM CEO Arvind Krishna has some thoughts on the math behind those bets.<\/p>\n<p>Data center spending is on the rise. During Meta&#8217;s recent earnings call, words like &#8220;capacity&#8221; and AI &#8220;infrastructure&#8221; were <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/meta-earnings-call-analyst-mark-zuckerberg-compute-capacity-metaverse-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">frequently used<\/a>. Google just announced that it wants to eventually build them <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/google-project-suncatcher-sundar-pichai-data-centers-space-solar-2027-2025-11\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">in space<\/a>. The question remains: will the revenue generated from data centers ever justify all the capital expenditure?<\/p>\n<p>On the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/podcast\/829868\/ibm-arvind-krishna-watson-llms-ai-bubble-quantum-computing\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">&#8220;Decoder&#8221; podcast<\/a>, Krishna concluded that there was likely &#8220;no way&#8221; these companies would make a return on their capex spending on data centers.<\/p>\n<p>Couching that his napkin math was based on today&#8217;s costs, &#8220;because anything in the future is speculative,&#8221; Kirshna said that it takes about $80 billion to fill up a one-gigawatt data center.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Okay, that&#8217;s today&#8217;s number. So, if you are going to commit 20 to 30 gigawatts, that&#8217;s one company, that&#8217;s $1.5 trillion of capex,&#8221; he said. <\/p>\n<p>Krishna also referenced the depreciation of the AI chips inside data centers as another factor: &#8220;You&#8217;ve got to use it all in five years because at that point, you&#8217;ve got to throw it away and refill it,&#8221; he said. <\/p>\n<p>Investor Michael Burry has recently <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/big-short-michael-burry-substack-nvidia-memo-depreciation-ai-bubble-2025-11\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">taken aim at Nvidia<\/a> over depreciating concerns, leading to a downturn in <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/stock-market-ai-bubble-gpu-depreciation-new-most-hated-word-2025-11\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">AI stocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If I look at the total commits in the world in this space, in chasing AGI, it seems to be like 100 gigawatts with these announcements,&#8221; Krishna said.<\/p>\n<p>At $80 billion each for 100 gigawatts, that sets Krishna&#8217;s price tag for computing commitments at roughly $8 trillion.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s my view that there&#8217;s no way you&#8217;re going to get a return on that, because $8 trillion of capex means you need roughly $800 billion of profit just to pay for the interest,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Reaching that number of gigawatts has required <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/us-data-center-construction-40-billion-spend-hits-record-high-2025-9\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">massive spending<\/a> from AI companies \u2014 and pushes for outside help. In an <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/openai-data-center-expansion-is-hungry-for-workers-and-electricity-2025-10\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">October letter<\/a> to the White House&#8217;s Office of Science and Technology Policy, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman recommended that the US add 100 gigawatts in energy capacity every year.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Decoder&#8221; host Nilay Patel pointed out that Altman believed OpenAI could generate a return on its capital expenditures. OpenAI has committed to spending some $1.4 trillion in a <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/sam-altman-defends-openai-trillion-spending-2025-11\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">variety of deals<\/a>. Here, Krishna said he diverged from Altman.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s a belief,&#8221; Krishna said. &#8220;That&#8217;s what some people like to chase. I understand that from their perspective, but that&#8217;s different from agreeing with them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Krishna clarified that he wasn&#8217;t convinced that the current set of technologies would get us to AGI, a yet to be reached technological breakthrough generally agreed to be when AI is capable of completing complex tasks better than humans. He pegged the chances of achieving it without a further technological breakthrough at 0-1%.<\/p>\n<p>Several other high-profile leaders have been skeptical of the acceleration to AGI. Marc Benioff said that he was &#8220;extremely suspect&#8221; of the AGI push, <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/marc-benioff-extremely-suspect-agi-hypnosis-2025-8\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">analogizing it to hypnosis<\/a>. Google Brain founder Andrew Ng said that AGI was &#8220;<a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/google-brain-founder-andrew-ng-agi-is-overhyped-yc-2025-7?utm_source=chatgpt.com\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">overhyped<\/a>,&#8221; and Mistral CEO Arthur Mensch said that AGI was a &#8220;<a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/mistral-ceo-arthur-mensch-agi-marketing-move-metric-2025-6?utm_source=chatgpt.com\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">marketing move<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Even if AGI is the goal, scaling compute may not be the enough. OpenAI cofounder Ilya Sutskever said <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/openai-cofounder-ilya-sutskever-scaling-ai-age-of-research-dwarkesh-2025-11\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">in November<\/a> that the age of scaling was over, and that even 100x scaling of LLMs would not be completely transformative. &#8220;It&#8217;s back to the age of research again, just with big computers,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Krishna, who began his career at IBM in 1990 before rising to eventually be named CEO in 2020 and chairman in 2021, did praise the current set of AI tools.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s going to unlock trillions of dollars of productivity in the enterprise, just to be absolutely clear,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>But AGI will require &#8220;more technologies than the current LLM path,&#8221; Krisha said. He proposed fusing hard knowledge with LLMs as a possible future path.<\/p>\n<p>How likely is that to reach AGI? &#8220;Even then, I&#8217;m a &#8216;maybe,'&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"AI companies are spending billions on data centers in the race to AGI. 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