{"id":327004,"date":"2025-12-20T19:55:10","date_gmt":"2025-12-20T19:55:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/327004\/"},"modified":"2025-12-20T19:55:10","modified_gmt":"2025-12-20T19:55:10","slug":"i-hired-a-million-of-the-worlds-smartest-people-to-fact-check-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/327004\/","title":{"rendered":"I hired a million of the world\u2019s smartest people to fact-check AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To visit MathOverflow, an online forum for professional mathematicians, is to step into another world. Ever pondered the \u201cquantization of symplectic vector space and choice of lagrangian subspaces\u201d? This is your place. A fan of \u201cpolyhedral complexes and shellings\u201d? Look no further.<\/p>\n<p>For most, this might very well be the last corner of the internet in which they would choose to spend time. Yet for Edwin Chen, it\u2019s a happy hunting ground.<\/p>\n<p>The 38-year-old billionaire founder of Surge AI, a five-year-old New York start-up, has recruited more than a million of what he claims are the brightest minds on the planet to train, to probe and to coach the world\u2019s most capable <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/topic\/artificial-intelligence\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">artificial intelligence<\/a> systems into becoming ever clever. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe basically teach AI models, and then we measure how well they\u2019re learning. We do that by bringing together the smartest people in the world,\u201d Chen explained. \u201cWe actually have what I believe is the largest group of PhD experts in the world on a platform, teaching these models.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Edwin Chen, founder of Surge AI, speaking.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/\/78d986bd-d18e-4fbb-8d5e-e8be5c069431.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">People such as Oliveira Santos, 25, who spends her days crafting mind-bendingly difficult \u201cfrontier math\u201d equations to throw at AI systems. Her first one ran to more than 40 pages. \u201cI was planning to follow an academia kind of path where I guess my final goal was to be a professor,\u201d she explained. \u201cBut since AI came to be, I found, \u2018OK, no. I actually want to work in the industry. I think this way I feel like I can make much more of an impact on the world.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Much of the conversation about the AI revolution has focused on the likes of OpenAI and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/topic\/google\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Google<\/a>, the companies designing these powerful systems, or on the data centres and power plants being built to power them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u2022 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/business\/technology\/article\/inside-britains-ai-data-centre-boom-can-the-grid-keep-up-jllzb3b0p\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Inside the power-hungry data centres taking over Britain<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">But there is a third leg of the stool: the millions of contractors who are, every day, all day, toiling far from the bright lights of the AI revolution, taking an hourly wage to feed data to these systems. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">This unseen army, working in global locations from Lagos to London to Manila, are engaged in what amounts to an immense transfer of knowledge from humans to digital brains \u2014 one that, if Silicon Valley is to be believed, will very soon put up to half of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/comment\/columnists\/article\/march-of-ai-could-prompt-a-white-collar-revolt-jqrvs7cfh\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">white-collar workers<\/a> out of a job.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Chen, a former AI researcher at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/topic\/meta\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Meta<\/a>, Twitter and YouTube, has emerged as one of the key players at the heart of this booming \u201cdata labelling\u201d industry. He has plenty of competition. Meta paid $14 billion (\u00a310.5 billion) for half of Scale AI, Surge\u2019s rival, this summer, while Mercor, a two-year-old start-up, recently raised $350 million from investors who valued the company at $10 billion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Data-labelling companies may all get dropped into the same category, but they often do wildly different things. Some operate at the lower end, paying rock-bottom wages to people in the developing world to do the grunt work of labelling bits of content \u2014 this is a cat, this is a joke \u2014 so that AI can \u201ctrain\u201d on the data. Others correct the AI tools when they spit out bad answers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Surge AI\u2019s army specialises in \u201creinforcement learning through human feedback\u201d, in which highly qualified professionals push at the outer limits of what AI systems can handle. The company pays anywhere from $20 an hour to as much as $500, depending on the labeller\u2019s particular skills. Most of its workforce, Surge added, live in English-speaking countries in North America and Europe.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Close-up of a smartphone screen displaying the Surge AI website with the text &quot;The quality of your data determines the ceiling of your ambitions.&quot;\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/\/ebb49a21-e5ed-4740-baf6-0335631dfd9c.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Surge AI was founded five years ago<\/p>\n<p>ALAMY<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Beyond the numbers, however, a labour fight is brewing over whether the contractors used by Surge AI and its ilk should be treated as employees \u2014 and thus have better pay and conditions. Glenn Danas, an attorney at the law firm Clarkson in Malibu, California, has sued Surge, Mercor and Scale AI over working conditions and wage theft. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Danas said: \u201cIn this industry, one of the unique aspects is that there are some people who are very well educated and they are being treated worse than a fast-food worker.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">His suit against Surge alleges a range of alleged infractions, including requiring unpaid training, ending projects without warning, not providing paid meal and break times, and not compensating for overtime. Surge said the suit was \u201cwithout merit\u201d and has entered into arbitration on the case. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cThe problem is, we\u2019re sort of allowing these companies to get at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/business\/technology\/article\/euan-blair-multiverse-ai-skills-cost-billions-xbbrw86ps\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">skills that should be very highly compensated<\/a>, super cheaply,\u201d Danas said. \u201cThe consequence will be that you\u2019ve just sort of aided creating this thing that then won\u2019t need you any more, and it really just didn\u2019t pay what it should have.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u2022 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/business\/companies-markets\/article\/silicon-valleys-techies-are-building-the-ai-that-could-replace-them-xsc6bgmrr\" class=\"link__RespLink-sc-1ocvixa-0 csWvlP\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Silicon Valley\u2019s techies are building the AI that could replace them<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Indeed, this work begs that very question: are participants not speeding their own demise tomorrow in exchange for some cash today? Oliveira Santos doesn\u2019t look at it that way. \u201cThis is a big question that probably everyone in the field is asking themselves,\u201d she said. She reckons, however, that AI will evolve into something of a thought partner, handling the boring parts of a job while assisting on the more knotty problems. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cI\u2019m actually going to need AI to explore all these ideas that I didn\u2019t have the time to explore before,\u201d said Santos.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">So just where is this frantic race leading? Chen at Surge AI is very clear: artificial general intelligence (AGI). It is a nebulous term but can be broadly understood to describe systems that are better than the sum of all humans at any cognitive work \u2014 a notion that not long ago was dismissed as the stuff of science fiction. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cWe\u2019re trying to create AGI,\u201d Chen explained. \u201cNot AGI that replaces us, but that makes us better in some sense, helps us explore the galaxy, helps us cure cancer, so that we can do even more.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">He started Surge in 2020 after spotting a problem that came up time and again during his years working inside the Big Tech machine. No matter what a company tried to optimise its technology for, be it clicks or retweets or comments or likes, the algorithms would always end up in the same place \u2014 optimising for low-quality clickbait: divisive posts, listicles, conspiracies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">AGI would never get built, he surmised, on cat videos and conspiracy theories. So using a few million dollars that he has amassed from his time in Big Tech, Chen launched Surge, building an automated system that scoured the globe for astrophysicists and poets and chemists, as well as intricate systems to check their work. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cWe built all these algorithms to find the best people, and we have also built all these, kind of, content moderation-type systems to remove the bad people. Because we have invested so much in measurement, we can actually measure whether or not the quality is improving,\u201d he explained. \u201cWe were basically founded because we saw that the biggest problem in reaching AGI was going to be the data.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">The company is this year expected to pull in more than $1.2 billion in sales, thanks largely to the premium it charges for its services relative to rivals less focused on \u201cfrontier\u201d data. Nick Heiner, Surge\u2019s head of reinforcement learning, used an analogy with golf to explain what Surge does.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">To get better at golf, he explained, you could either spend, say, a million hours practising on a mini golf course, or a million hours on a professional course like California\u2019s Pebble Beach with a coach at your elbow giving you pointers. Surge sees its work as the latter. The company is still private but is reported to be worth $30 billion, which means that Chen, who retains a 60 per cent stake, is on paper worth $18 billion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">What worries him? By who and how AI systems are being built. Chen deliberately left Silicon Valley and started his company in New York because he wanted to get out of the west coast tech \u201cmonoculture\u201d where start-ups focus on \u201cengagement tricks\u201d rather than building tools that are genuinely useful. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cIt\u2019s a very \u2018get rich quick\u2019 mindset,\u201d he said. \u201cI worry about that because if Silicon Valley is the epicentre of AGI, and this is the mindset of the people who are building it, it\u2019s like, \u2018How does that shape your motives? How does it shape your goals?\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"last-paragraph\" class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">We will soon find out.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"To visit MathOverflow, an online forum for professional mathematicians, is to step into another world. 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