{"id":422872,"date":"2026-02-13T03:03:13","date_gmt":"2026-02-13T03:03:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/422872\/"},"modified":"2026-02-13T03:03:13","modified_gmt":"2026-02-13T03:03:13","slug":"guy-pepper-on-englands-new-bromance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/422872\/","title":{"rendered":"Guy Pepper on England\u2019s new bromance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>James Haskell used to do this comedy routine with Owen Farrell. They were on England\u2019s 2016 tour to Australia. Haskell walked around camp with his selfie-stick and his GoPro, filming everything. <\/p>\n<p>The sketch was that Farrell wanted nothing to do with him or his camera. Farrell was probably only half-joking. He was the anti-Haskell, never a man to chase the flashbulbs.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Pepper and Henry Pollock had never met before the autumn internationals, but they roomed together, they went on holiday together to Dubai, and they have forged a dynamic back-row alliance that has been transformational for England. Opposites attract. Pepper is the anti-Pollock, the least likely of England\u2019s breakthrough stars of 2025 to enjoy the camera. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s definitely one that loves the limelight more than the other,\u201d Pepper says, laughing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cI had never met him before November. I didn\u2019t think I was going to like him. But he is a great person to be around. People like him help to bring the team together in a short space of time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cHe\u2019s honestly a completely different person in the room. He\u2019s constant, but not actually as full-on as you think. But you have to put up with a lot of bullshit. At 8pm, you tell him to wind his neck in and he sorts himself out. It\u2019s quiet time.\u201d <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Guy Pepper, Henry Pollock, and Tom Curry of England posing for a photo in the dressing room after the Quilter Nations Series 2025 match between England and Fiji.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/\/069091ad-fe0b-4650-9ddf-f90ddcd55f7a.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Pepper and Pollock, centre, have very different games but are both key to Borthwick\u2019s back row<\/p>\n<p>DAN MULLAN \u2013 RFU\/THE RFU COLLECTION VIA GETTY IMAGES<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Importantly, Pepper, 22, and Pollock, 21, share this unyielding drive to succeed, but that contrast in character is evident on the field. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pollock is the exuberant, eye-catching talent, a flanker and part-time wing capable of outlandish moments of skill, whose development work is to become more Pepper, more focused on improving the less glamorous areas of the game. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper, meanwhile, revels in the unseen graft that allows others to shine. Defensively, his ability to read the game and shut down danger moments is prized by the England management, along with his contribution to the two-man tackle strategy which slows down opposition ball. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Guy Pepper of England adjusts his socks in the dressing room before the Guinness Six Nations 2026 match against Wales.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/\/4fdbbdc6-82de-45e4-8f17-e7d7495adbf6.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p>While Pollock has been making the headlines with his exuberant celebrations, Pepper has quietly gone about his business to great effect<\/p>\n<p>DAN MULLAN \/GETTY IMAGES<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper\u2019s work-on is to become more Pollock, more prominent in attack, and to get his hands on the ball because he has the athletic potential to break a game open. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">The beauty for Steve Borthwick, the England head coach, is that he can deploy them both together. Pepper and Pollock have been integral to extending England\u2019s winning run to 12 Tests, allowing Borthwick to field a six-two bench and transform an area of weakness into the team\u2019s super-strength. Pepper and Pollock head to Murrayfield on Saturday with neither having lost a game in England colours. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Henry Pollock, Guy Pepper, and Tommy Freeman of England rugby players joking around.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/\/7ed6f676-01cc-4e66-923f-38f9d052d728.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Pollock, right, gets to work on Pepper during a break in training<\/p>\n<p>ANDREW FOSKER\/SHUTTERSTOCK<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cHenry has been playing some unbelievable rugby, scoring some crazy tries which I am very jealous of,\u201d Pepper says. \u201cHe should have hit more rucks. No, I\u2019m joking. Hopefully, we can continue winning games together.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Borthwick was only a few days into his tenure as England head coach when Richard Hill, the senior team manager and back-row mentor, said to him: \u201cYou\u2019ve got to go and watch Guy Pepper.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Hill had given the same advice to Eddie Jones about Sam Underhill days after he started as Borthwick\u2019s predecessor. Borthwick flew to Newcastle and within half an hour he knew he was watching a Test player of the future. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper had grown up around rugby. His father, Martin, played as a flanker and hooker for Harlequins. Pepper had to be reined in from tackling team-mates in junior touch rugby, so there was never any doubt his destiny was in the back row. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cIt\u2019s more my personality and the way I played sport, not just rugby,\u201d he says. \u201cI always wanted to be around everything. I could never see myself on the wing, just stood there. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cI enjoy those key moments in the game, where you\u2019ve got to balance caution with winning the ball back for the team or securing the ball for others to play with.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper has been dealing with arthritis in his ankle since he was six. It requires an injection every two weeks. But that love of the physical was enhanced at Newcastle Red Bulls (nee Falcons), where he worked under Steve Diamond and his ethos of \u201clegalised violence\u201d. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Guy Pepper posing with two women and a man in a stadium.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/\/3ef1ed18-5152-4322-bc28-1574527d71ed.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Pepper during his days at Newcastle, where he developed a taste for \u201cdominating\u201d the collisions<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Initially, Pepper is not sure whether he should be quoted repeating the Diamond mantra. But why not? Those big tackles epitomise what he loves most about the game. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cUntil now, I have never really thought about why \u2014 but it is that feeling of excitement when you have dominated,\u201d he says. \u201cIt\u2019s like a reward. That\u2019s why I play the game and we need to celebrate that you\u2019re allowed to be legally violent.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">When Pepper had an opportunity to leave Newcastle in 2024, there was no shortage of suitors. Many were offering him regular first-team rugby in the Gallagher Prem. Johann van Graan, Bath\u2019s director of rugby, had set his sights on signing Pepper following a record 34-tackle performance against them in December 2023. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Initially, Pepper had not been sure about Bath because, the previous year, they had been as bad as Newcastle. But Van Graan convinced Pepper of his vision. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Instead of taking the easier route, Pepper joined a club that would force him to work for his minutes because of the intense back-row competition from Underhill, Miles Reid, Ted Hill and Josh Bayliss. That decision alone reveals much about the man. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cI was prepared to sacrifice minutes for becoming a better player,\u201d he says. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Gloucester Rugby v Bath Rugby, Gallagher Premiership Rugby - 23 Jan 2026\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/\/6cebafe7-2496-434e-8ba0-da21fd46e56f.jpg\" class=\"responsive-sc-1nnon4d-0 bAbKns\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Pepper piles in for Bath at The Rec<\/p>\n<p>SIMON KING\/PROSPORTS\/SHUTTERSTOCK<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper initially moved into the academy house and by the end of the season he was man of the match in both the semi-final and the final as Bath won the Gallagher Prem title. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper had a spectacular solo try chalked off at Twickenham because of a knock-on earlier in the move. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">He made his international breakthrough on England\u2019s summer tour of Argentina and teed up a try for Jack van Poortvliet following a similarly dynamic break. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Two flashes of the attacking threat which he is being urged to replicate by Borthwick and by his Bath mentor, Andy Robinson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Pepper joined the club as a specialist No7. His turnover prowess prompted Van Graan, who is not prone to making idle comments, to compare his technique and work rate to Richie McCaw. There can be no loftier praise. But Pepper has developed into a flanker who can play both sides. <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cGrowing up, I was adamant that I was an open-side flanker,\u201d he says. \u201cI saw them as two different positions. I can remember at Falcons, in a pre-season game against Edinburgh, I was pissed off because I was picked at six. Making the move down to Bath, I had to get over that. Andy Robinson has been great with me. He is an absolute nause of a seven and he has been drumming into me about getting on the shoulder of the fly half and being the first one in position to support a half break.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Robinson, the former England head coach, played against Pepper\u2019s father in the 1990s and is a master of the art of back-row play. He loves the balance that England have developed in their back row, with the emergence of Pepper and Pollock allowing Borthwick to use five classic open-side flankers across 80 minutes and finish games with four on the field.<\/p>\n<p>The Ruck Podcast: LiveDon\u2019t miss tough tacklers Courtney Lawes and Serge Betsen on March 9 as they compare notes on France v England and the biggest moments of this year\u2019s Six Nations at Twickenham Stoop. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/events\/times-events\/article\/the-ruck-live-courtney-lawes-and-serge-betsen-line-up-ahead-of-super-saturday-jlxzxjqnh?gaa_at=eafs&amp;gaa_n=AWEtsqfInT7Iag1ecc2aGP462Kvps-ixyJQxXp5kO898qaDIy2BQScaoxNkfYVGUVNc%3D&amp;gaa_ts=69836665&amp;gaa_sig=RufXbBpIo4-SvY3_pnSQYQsS6jvzkacslMoiaEBl5Aq6WTruabEm7R0K8dWmiJEqEBaNYPwKtv2wsw66y03-tg%3D%3D\" class=\"styles__KeyFactTextLink-sc-1shod7b-0 iUDWMr\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Book tickets here<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cThe thing I like about England at the moment is their inside support play and making sure their continuity game is right up there with the best in the world. That will make a difference. With a 6-2 bench you can lay it all out there knowing two more guys are coming on,\u201d Robinson says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">\u201cGuy, Sam and Ben are always in the game in attack and defence. Steve has got three back-rowers who can interchange their roles. Back row is the most competitive position. You have to have an outstanding skill set to even be competitive. Guy has got this success because of his drive. He is a super rugby player.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">He won\u2019t stay out of the limelight for long.<\/p>\n<p>Scotland v England<\/p>\n<p id=\"last-paragraph\" class=\"responsive__Paragraph-sc-1pktst5-0 gaEeqC\">Murrayfield <br \/>Saturday, 4.40pm<br \/>TV ITV1<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"James Haskell used to do this comedy routine with Owen Farrell. 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