{"id":473949,"date":"2026-03-13T19:22:13","date_gmt":"2026-03-13T19:22:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/473949\/"},"modified":"2026-03-13T19:22:13","modified_gmt":"2026-03-13T19:22:13","slug":"former-oculus-cto-calls-metas-30-vr-dev-fee-wasteful-churn-in-face-of-subsidizing-individual-apps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/473949\/","title":{"rendered":"Former Oculus CTO Calls Meta&#8217;s 30% VR Dev Fee &#8220;wasteful churn&#8221; in Face of Subsidizing Individual Apps"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Legendary programmer and former Oculus CTO John Carmack doesn\u2019t think Meta\u2019s developer incentive structure is healthy for the Horizon Store ecosystem, calling it \u201cwasteful churn.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The News<\/p>\n<p>While Carmack\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.roadtovr.com\/vr-industry-luminary-john-carmack-quits-meta-calling-end-decade-vr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">departed Meta in 2022<\/a>, concluding his \u201cdecade in VR,\u201d the one-time Oculus CTO has never been one to mince words when it comes to virtual reality.<\/p>\n<p>In a <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/ID_AA_Carmack\/status\/2031766464185901391\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">recent X post<\/a>, Carmack lays out what appears to be a pretty clear inequity: why does Meta fund third-party titles when they\u2019re just going to turn around and tax them 30% on every transaction?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCompanies like Meta subsidize third party developers in various ways to help grow their platforms, then take 30% of the developer revenue right back with the platform tax, which is a wasteful churn,\u201d Carmack says.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/john-carmack-oculus-connect.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-81859\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/john-carmack-oculus-connect.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\"  \/><\/a>John Carmack at Oculus Connect (2018) | Image courtesy Meta<\/p>\n<p>To avoid unnecessarily circulating money between platform and developer, Carmack points to Epic Games\u2019 fee structure, which doesn\u2019t take anything from developers for the first $1 million per year in revenue.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou would still need explicit subsidies to get certain types of games \/ apps created at all, but it perfectly rewards what you actually want: increased economic activity, versus a biased pre-selection process,\u201d Carmack continues.<\/p>\n<p>Tagging Epic CEO Tim Sweeney, Carmack muses whether Meta could even actually pay developers extra for early revenue instead of charging an initial platform fee\u2014something radically different from directly hand-picking projects and applying its usual 30% cut.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/tim-sweeney-gdc-2016.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-57858\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/tim-sweeney-gdc-2016.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"799\"  \/><\/a>Tim Sweeney at GDC 2016 | Image courtesy Wikimedia Commons<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf it wasn\u2019t so easily exploited by buying your own app, a negative rate \u2018earned income tax credit\u2019 for initial revenue would actually be a good incentive for a platform like Quest.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In response, Sweeney\u00a0says the $1 million no-fee threshold works and hasn\u2019t been abused, although that\u2019s partly because Epic\u2019s fees are relatively low to begin with\u2014a meager\u00a012% cut.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere hasn\u2019t been significant gaming of the system. Thankfully there are enough benefits to curation and reputation in having one &gt;$1M app than to breaking it up into a near-duplicate set of &lt;$1M apps. But this assumes a modest take rate. At 30% behavior may change,\u201d Sweeney says.<\/p>\n<p>My Take<\/p>\n<p>PC gaming is much more flexible than Quest when it comes to sourcing games; PC users can choose from any number of store, including Steam, Epic Games Store, or GOG. This is unfortunately not the case for Quest.<\/p>\n<p>But let\u2019s not conflate the two too much though. Meta subsidizes Quest hardware to make back money with app sales\u2014basically what console manufacturers have always done.<\/p>\n<p>The wrinkle is that Quest users can download and install alternate app stores, like SideQuest, which uses Quest\u2019s ability to sideload Android APKs. But it\u2019s no real competitor to the Horizon Store, and I don\u2019t expect it ever will be.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/sidequest.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-126622\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/sidequest.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1920\" height=\"840\"  \/><\/a>SideQuest | Image captured by Road to VR<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s unlikely Meta would disable sideloading, although would-be competitors are probably still cautious from incurring Meta\u2019s wrath. In SideQuest\u2019s case, it\u2019s now mostly an app discovery layer and installer, with many of its app listings now linking directly to Horizon Store.<\/p>\n<p>And from what I\u2019ve seen, I just don\u2019t think Meta would allow real app store competition anywhere near Quest\u2014similar to how Apple doesn\u2019t allow Epic to bring its Games Store to the iPhone ecosystem\u2014the subject of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Epic_Games_v._Apple\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">a massive 2021 lawsuit<\/a>\u00a0that Apple mostly won.<\/p>\n<p>No competition means no incentive to change. And more importantly, it means nobody can swoop in and by flaunt a better fee structure (and free games) like Epic Games Store seems to be doing as it attempts to pry away users from Steam. Notably, Steam\u00a0features a 30% platform fee that then descends to 25% after $10 million revenue, and 20% after $50 million.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Legendary programmer and former Oculus CTO John Carmack doesn\u2019t think Meta\u2019s developer incentive structure is healthy for the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":14970,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[86,56,54,55,4297,4298,4299],"class_list":["post-473949","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-virtual-reality","tag-technology","tag-uk","tag-united-kingdom","tag-unitedkingdom","tag-virtual-reality","tag-virtualreality","tag-vr"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/473949","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=473949"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/473949\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14970"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=473949"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=473949"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=473949"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}