{"id":527704,"date":"2026-04-13T01:17:12","date_gmt":"2026-04-13T01:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/527704\/"},"modified":"2026-04-13T01:17:12","modified_gmt":"2026-04-13T01:17:12","slug":"applause-as-woman-calls-out-anas-sarwar-live-on-bbc-leaders-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/527704\/","title":{"rendered":"Applause as woman calls out Anas Sarwar live on BBC leaders debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n  The broadcaster was hosting the first televised leaders debate of the Scottish parliament election campaign, with voters due to go to the polls in less than a month\u2019s time on May 7.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Alongside Sarwar and Findlay, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/25059069.news-interviews-updates-snp\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">SNP<\/a> leader <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/24575066.john-swinney-news-updates-information-first-minister\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">John Swinney<\/a>, Green co-leader Ross Greer, Scottish LibDem leader Alex Cole-<a href=\"https:\/\/www.glasgowtimes.co.uk\/topics\/hamilton\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Hamilton<\/a>, and Reform UK Scotland leader Malcolm Offord were also on the stage.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/subscribe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/20750542.jpg\" width=\"100%\"\/><\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  During one of his opening contributions, Sarwar said: \u201cRight now, people in Scotland, if they earn \u00a333,500 or more, pay more tax in Scotland than they do in other parts of the UK, and people feel like they&#8217;re paying more and more and getting less and less in return.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  And during his opening speech, Findlay said: \u201cWe will stand up for hardworking Scots. We&#8217;ll bring down people&#8217;s taxes. We&#8217;ll fix public services, and the best way to stop that SNP majority that John Swinney thinks he&#8217;s got in the bag is to vote Scottish Conservative.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Host Stephen Jardine asked an audience member for her response, leading her to call out both the Labour and Tory leaders.\n<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cI just want to pick up on something that Anas Sarwar said when he mentioned that we pay more tax in this country but we get less for it,\u201d the woman said.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cThe reality is we get free prescriptions in this country. You don&#8217;t get that down south.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cWe have free tuition fees. You don&#8217;t get that elsewhere in the UK.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cWe have a nationalised rail service. We have a nationalised water service. You don&#8217;t have that anywhere else, but other parts of the UK want it.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cSo I think it&#8217;s wrong to suggest that we pay more and get less.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  READ MORE: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/26014333.fury-labour-stick-two-fingers-scots-independence-vote\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"omni-lead-story__link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Fury as Labour &#8216;stick two fingers up&#8217; at Scots over independence vote<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  To Findlay, she then went on: \u201cAnd the second thing I&#8217;d like to say to Russell Findlay was he&#8217;s spoken twice now about cutting taxes and fixing public service.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cHow are you going to do that with less money? Does that mean cuts? Is that what you&#8217;re trying to tell us?\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Findlay responded: \u201cWell, yes.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cThere&#8217;s huge amounts of waste in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/topics\/scottish-government\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Scottish Government<\/a> spending,\u201d he went on. \u201cThe SNP waste money on a grand scale.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  First Minister Swinney then pushed Findlay to explain exactly what the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/politics\/tories\/?ref=au\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Tories<\/a> would cut.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cWhat we would do is deal with out of control SNP <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/25063718.dwp-news-interviews-updates\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">benefits<\/a>,\u201d the Conservative leader said.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Green co-leader Greer said that was a \u201cclassic Tory\u201d line, punching \u201cdown at the most vulnerable\u201d.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Findlay said: \u201cWe absolutely value the safety net of social security, and our opponents will mischaracterise that, misrepresent it, but it&#8217;s ensuring that the right people receive those benefits.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The broadcaster was hosting the first televised leaders debate of the Scottish parliament election campaign, with voters due&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":527705,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[59,57,58,50,56,54,55],"class_list":{"0":"post-527704","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-united-kingdom","8":"tag-gb","9":"tag-great-britain","10":"tag-greatbritain","11":"tag-news","12":"tag-uk","13":"tag-united-kingdom","14":"tag-unitedkingdom"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/527704","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=527704"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/527704\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/527705"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=527704"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=527704"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=527704"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}