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Adam Price MS<\/p>\n Adam Price MS<\/p>\n
Martin Shipton<\/p>\n
The Plaid Cymru government aims to improve prosperity in Wales by halving the productivity gap between Wales and the rest of the UK in a decade.<\/p>\n
In an interview with Nation.Cymru, Enterprise Secretary Adam Price explained why it was necessary to have a target to aim at and why productivity was the chosen measure.<\/p>\n
A trained economist himself, who has he notes wryly had the longest possible apprenticeship, he said: \u201cIt\u2019s really important in any kind of economic plan that you have a goal, a target. And we haven\u2019t had a headline goal for the best part of 20 years. You\u2019re not going to achieve any consistent improvement unless you have a focus and a focus allows you to align everything you do as a government, for example.<\/p>\n
\u201cBut this isn\u2019t just a government mission. If we are going to achieve this ambitious goal, then the whole of Wales needs to align. And that\u2019s not just government, but business and government working together \u2013 national government, local government and hopefully cooperation with the UK Government as well.<\/p>\n
\u201cThe second point is which goal are you going to choose. Obviously there are a range of economic measures that were possible. We\u2019ve chosen productivity for a number of reasons, the first of which is that it is the key driver of economic prosperity. It\u2019s the fundamental engine, really, of everything else.<\/p>\n
\u201cProductivity sounds like a very abstract notion, doesn\u2019t it? At some level it\u2019s something that maybe just economists get excited about. But actually, what does it translate into? If you have higher productivity, you have higher wages, which is probably what most people think about in terms of improving living standards.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u2018Universal\u2019<\/p>\n
Asked whether productivity only related to manufacturing industry, Mr Price said: \u201cNo \u2013 it\u2019s universal. What is it? In simple terms, it\u2019s the amount of economic output, the amount of value that you create in an hour \u2013 and that\u2019s true of you, me and everyone else. It\u2019s true in manufacturing, but it\u2019s true in the service sector as well. And it\u2019s true in the public sector as well as the private sector.<\/p>\n
\u201cThere is a direct relationship between the level of wages and the level of productivity. But it\u2019s also, looking at it from our perspective, the measure which we in Wales at the devolved government level have more levers to be able to influence it and to drive it than other measures. To give you an example, economic growth \u2013 GDP or GVA \u2013 actually is influenced in many ways by what is done at a UK Government level.<\/p>\n
\u201cSkills are a very important element of determining how successful you are in terms of productivity. Education skills are wholly devolved. We don\u2019t hold as many of the infrastructure levers as we would like, but we do hold some of them. Transport is important in terms of businesses, both in workers getting to jobs and businesses getting to market, but the energy infrastructure as well, making sure that is delivering productivity growth. And then there is innovation: what actually allows individual economies and businesses within it to thrive is often the take-up of new technology innovation as well as in the broader sense of management capability, etc.<\/p>\n
\u201cThose are things that are going to be absolutely mission critical to our new development agency. So many of these tools in the toolbox are ones that we own. And it\u2019s that which leads us to say that productivity is the best way. We\u2019re at 85% of the UK average at present, and we\u2019d like to get up to 92% and beyond.\u201d<\/p>\n
Inspiration<\/p>\n
He said it was important that Wales drew inspiration from places like the Basque Country in Spain, which in the 1980s was in a similar place to Wales in relative terms and had managed to close its economic gap between potential and reality.<\/p>\n
In the public sector, said Mr Price, increased productivity could be measured in terms of inputs and outcomes: health outputs might be the number of people that you treat, and health outcomes would be judged by successful health outcomes.<\/p>\n
Mr Price said: \u201cI think we are aware that right across the world there is a sense of frustration at the inability of governments everywhere to provide the basic elements of a decent life.\u201d<\/p>\n
He sees AI as providing great opportunities to increase productivity: \u201cThere\u2019s a lot of focus, understandably, on the downside risk in terms of its disruption, in terms particularly of people\u2019s jobs in certain sectors. But there are also upside opportunities as well, which involve releasing people from tasks which are repetitive and allowing them to do what only people can do.<\/p>\n
\u201cCaring would be a great example of that. If you\u2019re able to deploy the technology in a smart way to do what the technology can do best, then that releases people to do what people can do \u2026 Improved productivity helps you to achieve better quality public services with better outcomes, even working within the financial limits.\u201d<\/p>\n
Local authorities<\/p>\n
When it\u2019s put to Mr Price that many local authorities are hampered in what they can do because of extra demands on children\u2019s services in particular, he says that won\u2019t necessarily act as a dampener on increased productivity: \u201cI think you can both employ more people and become more productive \u2013 and if you can do both, then of course that has huge value,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n
He\u2019s enthusiastic about putting these ideas into practice in Wales, saying: \u201cWe should be able to do this really well. We\u2019re a small country where we have one degree of separation, not six. We\u2019re actually great team builders. Not to romanticise or generalise too much, but there\u2019s something about the way we organise ourselves where ideas can flow well. Let\u2019s build, let\u2019s utilise that. Let\u2019s utilise the fact that we can have short communication distances \u2013 government to business, business to business, because peer to peer learning is the best, isn\u2019t it?\u201d<\/p>\n
M4<\/p>\n
Echoing First Minister Rhun ap Iorwerth, Mr Price said that one issue seen by the business sector as a major impediment to connectivity \u2013 traffic hold-ups at the Brynglas tunnels on the M4 in Newport \u2013 would get a road-based solution.<\/p>\n
The only option ruled out is the so-called Black Route of the M4 Relief Road, which was ruled out by former First Minister Mark Drakeford on cost and environmental grounds.<\/p>\n
Accompanying Mr Price was his new special adviser Luke Fletcher. A Senedd Member in the last term, where he was Plaid Cymru\u2019s economics spokesperson, he failed to get elected last month because he was only placed at number three on the party\u2019s list of candidates for Pen-y-bont Bro Morgannwg. Only two of Plaid\u2019s candidates won seats in the constituency.<\/p>\n
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