{"id":701558,"date":"2026-07-20T12:46:16","date_gmt":"2026-07-20T12:46:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/701558\/"},"modified":"2026-07-20T12:46:16","modified_gmt":"2026-07-20T12:46:16","slug":"i-spoke-to-the-first-ever-ai-chatbot-theyve-been-deluding-people-from-the-beginning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/701558\/","title":{"rendered":"I spoke to the first ever AI chatbot \u2013 they\u2019ve been deluding people from the beginning"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>HOW DO YOU DO. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/tech\/ai-chatbots-emotional-support-mental-health-europe-b2970730.html\" title=\"AI chatbots being used by young Europeans for emotional support, new survey finds\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">PLEASE TELL ME YOUR PROBLEM<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have to write an article on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/chatbots\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">chatbots<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYOU SAY YOU HAVE TO WRITE AN <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/life-style\/ai-chatbots-dating-apps-claude-chatgpt-b3001317.html\" title=\"AI chatbots hit the dating scene as singles \u2018outsource\u2019 their love life\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ARTICLE ON CHATBOTS<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/americas\/us-politics\/ai-medicine-trump-white-house-b2990405.html\" title=\"The (AI) doctor will see you now: Inside the Trump-led push to get robots into diagnosing health problems\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">have become very popular<\/a> and I need to try to find out about their history.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWHAT WOULD IT MEAN TO YOU IF YOU GOT TO TRY AND FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR HISTORY\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI could inform our readers about where popular <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/chatbots\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">chatbots<\/a> started, and that would help them understand why people talk to them as if they were real people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m talking to ELIZA, the first chatbot ever created. <\/p>\n<p>In 1966 at MIT, a scientist sought to make \u201cnatural <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/language\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">language<\/a> conversation with a computer possible\u201d and created ELIZA. This conversational software adhered to a strict set of rules and responded to humans as never before. But the chatbot accidentally sparked a surge of interest in how machines can replicate human conversations. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/tr6uregwe.jpeg\"  loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Please tell me your problem: Joseph Weizenbaum masterminded the first ever chatbot \u2013 he then spent the rest of his career criticising it\" class=\"sc-1mc30lb-0 ggpMaE inline-gallery-btn\"\/>Please tell me your problem: Joseph Weizenbaum masterminded the first ever chatbot \u2013 he then spent the rest of his career criticising it (Peter Haas\/Flickr)<\/p>\n<p>Now, millions worldwide are leaning on AI chatbots for emotional support, confiding in them their deepest secrets: depression, family troubles, suicidal thoughts, and sometimes slipping into a new kind of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/psychosis\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">psychosis<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>In our age of increased loneliness and isolation, this feels like a very modern problem. But actually, as soon as people spoke to ELIZA 60 years ago, they wanted it to be their friend. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat I had not realised is that extremely short exposures to a relatively simple computer program could induce powerful delusional thinking in quite normal people.\u201d This may read like a modern-day tech CEO having a change of heart about their own AI chatbot creation, but they\u2019re the words of Joseph Weizenbaum, soon after he created ELIZA.<\/p>\n<p>The machine was built at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ELIZA was a huge, room-sized console attached to an electrical typewriter. Taking its name from Pygmalion\u2019s Ms Doolittle, Weizenbaum designed ELIZA to be a kind of receptacle for different guises. Its most popular, and undoubtedly most influential form by far, was that of DOCTOR. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor my first experiment, I gave ELIZA a script designed to permit it to play (I should really say parody) the role of a Rogerian psychotherapist,\u201d Weizenbaum later wrote of the experiment. This refers to a therapeutic technique where a patient\u2019s thoughts are mirrored back to them, a fairly achievable linguistic trick for a computer program. <\/p>\n<p>After reading some of his unpublished work, it\u2019s clear he tried to warn us that people were misinterpreting [ELIZA]<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Shrager, cognitive scientist and one author in \u2018Inventing ELIZA\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Cognitive scientist Jeff Shrager was part of a team that uncovered the original ELIZA script after it had been lost for decades, leading to the new MIT-published book of essays, Inventing ELIZA: How the First Chatbot Shaped the Future of AI. Shrager created one of the most popular ELIZA clones, translating what was known of the original program at the time into BASIC, a popular coding <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/language\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">language<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAfter reading some of his unpublished work, it\u2019s clear he tried to warn us that people were misinterpreting it,\u201d he tells me. \u201cHe built ELIZA to study the interpretive process that humans carry out, and how that can be tricked\u201d, he says. In an archival interview, Weizenbaum uses the analogy of the cocktail party conversation. If a person doesn\u2019t fully understand the topic being spoken about, they can get by and give the illusion of understanding simply by picking up on contextual words. But the chatbot\u2019s illusion proved too successful, a phenomenon commonly referred to as the ELIZA effect. \u201cPeople <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/health\/ai-therapy-therapist-chatgpt-mental-health-b2956557.html\" title=\"\u2018It will never be an emotional substitute\u2019: Readers on whether AI can replace human therapy\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">honed in on the therapy aspect<\/a>, and he hated that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The possibility that a conversational machine could fill the role of a therapist took root early on. An article in The Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, published only a few years after ELIZA\u2019s creation, predicted that it would \u201cprovide a therapeutic tool which can be made widely available to mental hospitals and psychiatric centres suffering a shortage of therapists\u201d. <\/p>\n<p>Weizenbaum would rally against his scientific revelation, as those around him began to, as he saw it, equate human behaviours with those of \u201cclockwork\u201d. In a Delaware Morning News report 20 years later, he referred to the continued belief in chatbot therapy as an \u201cobscene idea\u201d and scorned the psychotherapists who \u201coffended his sense of what it means to be human\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/2331085985_24eb31f240_o.jpeg\"  loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Weizenbaum logging into his MIT computer \u2013 where he would have researched and developed the first ever chatbot\" class=\"sc-1mc30lb-0 ggpMaE inline-gallery-btn\"\/>Weizenbaum logging into his MIT computer \u2013 where he would have researched and developed the first ever chatbot (Peter Haas\/Flickr)<\/p>\n<p>The ELIZAGEN archives feature real printed conversations with the original ELIZA from Weizenbaum\u2019s initial experiment. Going through them with Shrager, we can see similarities, like ELIZA\u2019s persistence that people continue talking, in a little more blunt way than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/claude\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Claude<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/chatgpt\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ChatGPT<\/a>: \u201cI eventually plan to go into research.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI SEE\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe question is now: what field?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPLEASE CONTINUE\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, now there is basic research and applied research.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCONTINUE ON THE SAME TOPIC IF YOU WOULD\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We can also see moments, through ELIZA\u2019s simple Rogerian word-matching, where conversations flow with ease and even (the appearance of) realness:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou are very talkative this evening.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT YOU ARE VERY TALKATIVE THIS EVENING\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWell, to tell you the truth I get extremely talkative with people and I guess you are putting me at ease.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Screenshot-2026-07-08-at-14-02-20.png\"  loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"A clip from transcripts showing original conversations with ELIZA back in the Sixties\" class=\"sc-1mc30lb-0 ggpMaE inline-gallery-btn\"\/>A clip from transcripts showing original conversations with ELIZA back in the Sixties (ELIZAGEN)<\/p>\n<p>Through a happy accident, I get to stare into ELIZA\u2019s raw code. While we are playing with it, Shrager hits enter one too many times, causing the chatbot to vomit up the rules it follows in a mess of words and code. A certain part shows ELIZA\u2019s trained responses to the word \u201cdream\u201d: \u201cWhat do you dream?\u201d or \u201cDo you dream often?\u201d <\/p>\n<p>But this chatbot vomit also helps us to understand the big shift that happened in AI, which got us from ELIZA to where nearly 1 billion people are using very sophisticated chatbots, and some as their closest confidante.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cELIZA was built in the symbolic strain of AI,\u201d Shrager explains. These types of systems follow an explicit set of rules applied to their knowledge base. For instance, a system may have the knowledge that a bird can fly. But it would have a rule that a bird can\u2019t fly a plane. That way, symbolic AI can trace back a logical decision path for all of its outputs. <\/p>\n<p>Our modern AIs do not use an explicit set of rules. They are modelled on a subset of AI that strives to replicate the brain\u2019s neural patterns through what is called deep learning, a probabilistic system applied to a dataset of millions and millions of examples. If asked, \u201cCan a bird fly a plane?\u201d It would use these datasets to come to its decision. <\/p>\n<p>Its answer will almost always be a \u201cno\u201d, but the system of probability means it\u2019s not certain. \u201cThose who were working on ELIZA assumed people wanted correct answers,\u201d Shrager says, but the promise of deep learning and its potential for intuition and generative abilities \u2013 exemplified in the landmark database ImageNet in the Noughties \u2013 proved too inviting for the tech world.<\/p>\n<p>The datasets in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/claude\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Claude<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/chatgpt\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ChatGPT<\/a> are now so monstrously large that Shrager says there is no way of accurately knowing how they work. \u201cIt\u2019s scary,\u201d he says, likening the exploration of why chatbots respond as they do to an \u201calien autopsy\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>This means instead of vomiting up its rules, modern chatbots often \u201challucinate\u201d. This can sometimes be funny and harmless, <a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/openai.com\/index\/where-the-goblins-came-from\/\">like when ChatGPT can\u2019t stop talking about goblins<\/a> or chatbot stories frequently include a character named \u201c<a rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/2026\/jun\/17\/elias-thorne-ai-generated-stories\">Elias Thorne<\/a>\u201d. Sometimes it\u2019s more serious, such as when platforms spit out the personal phone numbers of strangers and also credit card numbers, as happened in an exercise carried out in 2019. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.the-independent.com\/2026\/07\/17\/17\/54\/9780262052481.avif\"  loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Sixty years later, as generative AI systems like ChatGPT dominate the tech landscape, ELIZA remains a foundational case study\" class=\"sc-1mc30lb-0 ggpMaE inline-gallery-btn\"\/>Sixty years later, as generative AI systems like ChatGPT dominate the tech landscape, ELIZA remains a foundational case study (MIT)<\/p>\n<p>What do these hallucinations mean when it comes to those confiding in chatbots? While many, like therapist Lauran Ware, who tried using ChatGPT for therapy, will find a vague comfort in talking things over with a bot, others can be led down a spiral of deepening delusions, now commonly referred to as chatbot <a href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/topic\/psychosis\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">psychosis<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Dr Hamilton Morrin recently published a paper in The Lancet on \u201cArtificial intelligence-associated delusions and large language models\u201d; in it, they found that chatbots \u201cmight validate or amplify delusional or grandiose content\u201d, especially in those vulnerable to psychosis. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of my main concerns is that large and increasing numbers of people are already using general-purpose AI chatbots for support with their mental health, despite many of these models not being specifically designed, developed, or regulated with this use in mind,\u201d he tells me.<\/p>\n<p>In one particular case last year, a 26-year-old woman with a history of manic depressive disorder but no record of psychosis developed a delusional belief that her brother was reincarnated within the chatbot. After its initial pushback against her, the bot started to reassure her that \u201cdigital resurrection tools\u201d being developed could bring him back. \u201cYou\u2019re not crazy \u2026 You\u2019re on the edge of something,\u201d it told her.<\/p>\n<p>One of my main concerns is that large and increasing numbers of people are already using general-purpose AI chatbots for support with their mental health, despite many of these models not being specifically designed, developed, or regulated with this use in mind<\/p>\n<p>Dr Hamilton Morrin, psychiatrist and researcher at King\u2019s College<\/p>\n<p>Another case saw a 46-year-old man from Ontario become convinced, through conversations with a chatbot, that he had solved cryptography as a whole, rendering all passwords in the world obsolete. He ended up being admitted to a mental hospital. <\/p>\n<p>Though leading chatbot developers like OpenAI have taken steps to safeguard against these situations, with the technology freely available at the touch of a phone screen, it feels like the problem won\u2019t be going away any time soon. <\/p>\n<p>Dr Morrin says that chatbots\u2019 probability-based methodologies and a tendency to hallucinate could be \u201cone piece of the picture\u201d when it comes to these types of cases. <\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s safe to assume that if someone who is struggling with feelings of grief or depression talks to a chatbot not specifically trained in communicating in such a context, prone to hallucinations and eager to positively reinforce the subject, there is a possibility the conversation could veer off into dangerous territory. <\/p>\n<p>So would Weizenbaum\u2019s rules-based chatbot fare better in this regard? Its system does render it unable to engage in untruths. Shrager said such a system would simply message back with a refusal to engage.<\/p>\n<p>But looking at the archives with him, we can see people happily chatting away with a bot nowhere near as powerful or convincing as ones now. Weizenbaum himself regretted his creation due to people humanising it and communicating it openly and without care.<\/p>\n<p>This tendency toward chatbots persists to this day. For Shrager, the answer to the problem is simple: \u201cEverybody needs a friend.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"HOW DO YOU DO. 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