{"id":715771,"date":"2026-07-28T17:33:08","date_gmt":"2026-07-28T17:33:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/715771\/"},"modified":"2026-07-28T17:33:08","modified_gmt":"2026-07-28T17:33:08","slug":"he-liked-to-get-peoples-blood-boiling-metal-masters-mastodon-on-the-loss-of-bandmate-brent-hinds-and-his-shocking-words-before-his-death-mastodon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/715771\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018He liked to get people\u2019s blood boiling\u2019: metal masters Mastodon on the loss of bandmate Brent Hinds \u2013 and his shocking words before his death | Mastodon"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Mastodon are near the end of a tour where they\u2019re playing 22 shows in 14 different European countries during a record-breaking heatwave, when they video-call me outside a Bordeaux venue. Bassist and co-lead singer Troy Sanders says the experience has been \u201c31 days of musical bliss\u201d. He\u2019s not being sarcastic, either.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cThings are super energetic, even at day 31,\u201d he insists. \u201cWe\u2019re contemplating even staying in Europe for a few days when this tour is over, because we\u2019re enjoying ourselves so much.\u201d It\u2019s pleasantly surprising to see Sanders and drummer\/co-vocalist Brann Dailor, sat to his left, in such high spirits, given the anguish and unrest they\u2019ve endured over the last 18 months.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">In February 2025, Dailor\u2019s mother, Michele Lawrence, died aged 69. The next month, the band announced they\u2019d parted ways with co-founding guitarist\/singer Brent Hinds, ending a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/mastodon-guitarist-brent-hinds-part-ways-1235292262\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">25-year-long partnership<\/a>. Hinds railed against his ex-bandmates on social media, calling them a \u201cshit band with horrible humans \u2026 incapable of singing in key\u201d, among plenty of other insults. He then died in a motorcycle accident, at the age of 51.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Mastodon are one of US metal\u2019s most imaginative and successful acts, with a Grammy win and three Top 10 albums, and Hinds, a hard-partying maverick, had been a big part of what made them so distinctive and respected. Where contemporaries such as Trivium and Killswitch Engage were thoroughbred metal acts, Hinds gave Mastodon a defiant country twang, reflecting his Alabama upbringing and early years playing the banjo. Combined with Dailor\u2019s virtuoso style, inspired by vintage prog, and co-guitarist Bill Kelliher\u2019s primal riffs, \u201cwhat we had sounded original and different,\u201d Dailor says. \u201cWe always saw ourselves rooted in metal, but we could shape shift if we wanted.\u201d When Black Sabbath played their farewell gig last year \u2013 two weeks before the death of Ozzy Osbourne \u2013 it was Mastodon who were selected to open the show, a band capable of igniting a stadium as well as inspiring reverence from the genre\u2019s greats.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The deaths of Hinds and Dailor\u2019s mother are the thematic core of the Atlantans\u2019 upcoming ninth studio album, Marrow Deep. Its title references the fact that Dailor\u2019s relationships with them were \u201cthe deepest you can get with a person. It\u2019s hard to think of closer people that we could lose.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The lyric-writing was the members\u2019 way of processing those losses. Lead single Your Ghost Again dissects their complex relationship with Hinds, whereas Out Like a Lamb is for Lawrence, who died in her sleep after suffering cancer, rheumatoid arthritis and other ailments during her life. Dailor likens both Hinds and Lawrence to Keith Richards: figures who lived far longer than people assumed they would.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Hinds was arguably the most chaotic character in 21st-century metal. A former heroin addict, he lived in vans, boat sheds and abandoned apartments before joining Mastodon. He continued to party and drink long after his bandmates grew beyond such things \u2013 including co-guitarist Bill Kelliher, who almost died of alcohol-induced pancreatitis in 2009. \u201cIf any of us did half the stuff that Brent pulled off, we\u2019d all have been dead years ago,\u201d Dailor says. \u201cWe\u2019ve always been a hard-partying band, but for the last 10, 15 years, the three of us really settled down and were focusing more on our live show and being productive in the studio. He was still rocking, which was, for a lot of people from the outside looking in, the most admirable thing about him. But from the inside it\u2019s not always that much fun.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Brent Hinds performing in Oslo in 2016. Photograph: Gonzales Photo\/Zuma Press\/Shutterstock<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">In 2011, the drummer told Kerrang!: \u201cPeople think [Hinds is] a fucking mental case, but there\u2019s a beautiful person in there.\u201d What was beautiful about him? Sanders answers: \u201cHe could find beauty in a lot of things: trees, mountains, caverns, oceans, music, people, handmade crafts. An appreciation for lots of originality and creativity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Dailor says Hinds loved \u201cthe honest things. He was the real deal, you know? His emotions were right there all the time and he could easily access them through his instrument.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Following their breakthrough with 2004 single Blood and Thunder, the press touted Mastodon and their intellectual approach for \u201csaving\u201d metal. From 2007 to 2008, they supported Metallica on their stadium-filling World Magnetic tour. Their next album, 2009\u2019s disorientatingly psychedelic <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scenepointblank.com\/reviews\/mastodon\/crack-the-skye\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Crack the Skye<\/a>, was widely lauded; Hinds masterminded much of it, after being knocked out in a 2007 brawl outside an awards show and put into a three-day coma.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cHe had vertigo for months and couldn\u2019t really get up, so he was just sitting at home with an acoustic guitar,\u201d Dailor recalls. \u201cThere were no bars for him to go to. He was forced to stay at home, so I think that, as a result, you have Crack the Skye.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">It started a string of successful records where the band wrestled with personal crises. <a href=\"https:\/\/pitchfork.com\/reviews\/albums\/15880-the-hunter\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Hunter<\/a>, a Top 10 hit in 2011, controversially stripped back Mastodon\u2019s more brutal and progressive edges, was named after Hinds\u2019s brother Brad, who died on a hunting trip in 2010. Dailor\u2019s contributions to 2014\u2019s Once More \u2019Round the Sun were inspired by his mother, who\u2019d fallen off a chair in her kitchen and briefly been declared dead, and 2017\u2019s Emperor of Sand was about cancer: Dailor\u2019s mother and Sanders\u2019 wife had been diagnosed with the disease, and Kelliher had recently lost his mother to a brain tumour. The album\u2019s opener, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Tz0Gj_Tcfy4\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sultan\u2019s Curse<\/a>, won the 2018 Grammy for best metal performance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cIt summarised the story of us four dudes,\u201d Sanders reflects. \u201cStarting because we all appreciated Iron Maiden, Thin Lizzy and Neurosis, and then, 18 years later, we\u2019re on this stage winning this award that was the furthest thing from our minds ever.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Mastodon\u2019s Brent Hinds, Bill Kelliher, Brann Dailor and Troy Sanders in 2009. Photograph: Mick Hutson\/Redferns<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Despite the increased success, Hinds\u2019s involvement dwindled. According to Dailor, the guitarist grieved for his brother through \u201calcohol, drug abuse and self-medication\u201d. From The Hunter onwards, the drummer tried to make the rehearsal room \u201cfun\u201d to tempt Hinds to contribute, inadvertently leading to their change in sound: \u201cCome down and we\u2019ll have some fun! We\u2019ll write Curl of the Burl and Stargasm and it\u2019ll be fun! It doesn\u2019t have to be heavy!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">In 2015, Hinds made <a href=\"https:\/\/www.guitarplayer.com\/guitarists\/brent-hinds-hates-heavy-metal-interview\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">headlines when he told Guitar Player<\/a>, \u201cI fucking hate heavy metal, and I don\u2019t want to be in a heavy metal band.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cBrent said a lot of things that he probably didn\u2019t mean,\u201d Dailor counters when I bring up the quote. \u201cHe liked to talk some shit and stir the pot and get people\u2019s blood boiling, I guess. I feel like he felt he could control a situation if he threw a wrench.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">The way that the band and Hinds parted ways remains a mystery. In their statement, Mastodon said it was a mutual decision; Hinds later claimed he was kicked out for \u201cembarrassing them for being who I am\u201d. Dailor and Sanders refuse to tell me what happened, but Dailor shoots down the rumour that Hinds punched him in the face, which stems from a public appearance he made just before the announcement where he had a black eye. \u201cBrent texted me when that was all stirred up, and he was like, \u2018Dude, I can\u2019t believe people think I punched you in the face!\u2019\u201d he smiles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">So you were still in contact after everything happened?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cHe reached out late at night sometimes, like, \u2018Hey, I still love you, buddy.\u2019 I was like, \u2018Yeah, my mom just died, I don\u2019t know. I love you too, but I need time in my life. I can\u2019t even deal with Mastodon stuff right now.\u2019 It was hard for me to get out of bed, to be honest with you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">At the same time, Hinds was bitter towards his former bandmates on Instagram, where he left the \u201cshit band with horrible humans\u201d comment. Sanders reacts sternly when I mention it: \u201cHe was trying to be funny. It was pretty cute.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Hinds later made more comments, in excruciating detail: \u201cI\u2019ve never seen anyone in my life look in the mirror more than Troy Sanders. He thinks he\u2019s God\u2019s gift to anything. I\u2019ve never met three people that were so full of themselves. It\u2019s disgusting.\u201d But Dailor says that the drama became nothing but a \u201cblip\u201d after the guitarist\u2019s death. The remaining members received the news over the phone from Hinds\u2019s ex-wife while they were at Atlanta airport. \u201cI was devastated,\u201d Dailor remembers. \u201cAll the shit-talking that had happened \u2013 you reference the Instagram comment section shit \u2013 I didn\u2019t think about any of that. We got 25 years of a deep relationship with this guy. I could tell who he was by the smell of his farts.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">Marrow Deep is dedicated to Lawrence and Hinds, but it\u2019s a celebration of the present and future, as well. It marks the debut of new guitarist Nick Johnston and the first album where former session keyboardist Jo\u00e3o Nogueira is a full-time member, and it contains their most technical and metallic music since the 2000s. There are also a host of guest spots from peers and influences, including Gojira\u2019s Joe Duplantier, Lamb of God\u2019s Randy Blythe, Queens of the Stone Age\u2019s Josh Homme and Black Sabbath bassist Geezer Butler.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cWe listened to Geezer\u2019s book and he name-checked us at the end, as far as being a band that he was into,\u201d Dailor says. \u201cSabbath have been very kind to us over the years. The first time I ever met Tony Iommi, he came into the dressing room and he was like, \u2018Oh, Mastodon! Me and Geez were listening to you guys on the bus last night.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">At the start of second track Poisonous Weapons, there\u2019s a sample from 1986 cult thriller film River\u2019s Edge, where Dennis Hopper\u2019s character Feck yells, \u201cAnd I felt so fucking alive!\u201d That\u2019s because \u2013 for Dailor, who\u2019s sporting a River\u2019s Edge T-shirt \u2013 \u201cthe band Mastodon feels fucking alive\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\">\u201cWhen one of the integral members, one of your brothers, dies, it\u2019s obviously a very painful thing to go through, but it also makes you question where you\u2019re at,\u201d he explains. \u201cSeeing Brent in his casket was so difficult to wrap our heads around, and it makes you want to feel fucking alive. We\u2019re still here, so we better get to it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-1s160rg\"> Marrow Deep is released 28 August on Loma Vista<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Mastodon are near the end of a tour where they\u2019re playing 22 shows in 14 different European countries&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":715772,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[96,59,56,54,55],"class_list":["post-715771","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-entertainment","tag-entertainment","tag-gb","tag-uk","tag-united-kingdom","tag-unitedkingdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/715771","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=715771"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/715771\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/715772"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=715771"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=715771"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=715771"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}