{"id":791708,"date":"2026-10-04T13:28:11","date_gmt":"2026-10-04T13:28:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/791708\/"},"modified":"2026-10-04T13:28:11","modified_gmt":"2026-10-04T13:28:11","slug":"scottish-pensioners-tell-burnham-dont-hit-us-to-pay-for-english-care","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/791708\/","title":{"rendered":"Scottish pensioners tell Burnham don&#8217;t hit us to pay for English care"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n  The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/26597044.john-swinney-urges-andy-burnham-rethink-triple-lock-changes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Prime Minister announced his ambitions to remove the link to wage growth in the triple lock in order to fund free personal care for the elderly in England and Wales<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Rose Jackson, spokesperson for the Scottish Pensioners\u2019 Forum, told the Sunday National: \u201cWhy hit us? Why not look at companies and people that have got plenty of money and maybe don\u2019t pay enough tax because they put stuff offshore so they don\u2019t have to pay tax on it?\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  She expressed concern about the policy replicating the settlement for pensioners in Scotland, whose pensions would be affected but already benefit from free personal care.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  The 76-year-old, who lives in Pumpherston, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/topics\/west-lothian\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">West Lothian<\/a>, previously worked in the jute mills in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/local-news\/dundee-news\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Dundee<\/a> and in the care sector where she remembers looking after \u201cmalnourished\u201d pensioners before her retirement 17 years ago.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  She said: \u201cI think it\u2019s absolutely ridiculous, the fact that my age group have paid in all our days.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cThe majority of us, baby-boomers they call us, started working the day we left school and then 35-40 years paid into the system.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  <img   width=\"100%\"\/>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  The grandmother-of-three added that she and her husband, a retired civil servant, are comfortable and have paid off the mortgage on their home but \u201cstill have to watch the pennies\u201d, and she worries about what changes today mean for her younger family.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Jackson also highlighted how women were disproportionately vulnerable to pensioner poverty.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Until 1970, women could be barred from joining private pension schemes if they were married or only worked part time and even after the law change, women have also struggled with pay inequality, working in lower-paid roles and taking breaks from their careers to raise children, reducing their entitlements later in life.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cIf my husband wasn\u2019t there, I would really be struggling,\u201d she said.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Elsewhere, Marlene Halliday, a member of Pensioners for Independence, told the Sunday National that she had some sympathy with Burnham\u2019s position, thinking it was \u201con the one hand fair enough\u201d, if the change was to pay for social care: \u201cThey have to get the money from somewhere.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  But the retired chemist, who lives in Broomhill, Glasgow, said that her experience volunteering in a Citizens Advice Bureau in the city, helping impoverished older people make ends meet, had shown her how bad things can get for the elderly.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cI used to sit down with older clients; they\u2019d come in, and probably the old age pension was their income; they don\u2019t have another source of income,\u201d said Halliday (below).\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  <img   width=\"100%\"\/>Marlene Halliday, a member of Pensioners for Independence, pictured in Glasgow (Image: Colin Mearns)\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cPeople like that, who probably have worked most of their lives, are not sitting with very much, probably nothing very much, in the bank and going from week to week using their old age pension.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  And Halliday echoed Jackson\u2019s concerns that Scottish pensioners would be hit by a policy that would not necessarily improve their situation, as they already benefit from free personal care.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  She said: \u201cThe <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/topics\/scottish-government\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Scottish Government<\/a> has managed to do that; they didn\u2019t do it by tweaking the old age pension, because they\u2019re not allowed to.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cThey\u2019ve managed to get that in place without doing that. Could England not manage to do that?\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Burnham\u2019s announcement on the triple lock, a policy brought in by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/politics\/tories\/?ref=au\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Tories<\/a> in 2011 and means that the state pension rises annually by the highest of wage growth, prices or 2.5%, comes after a number of high-profile politicians on the right called for it to be axed.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Tory grandees <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politics.co.uk\/2026\/09\/conservatives-and-reform-uk-reiterate-support-for-pension-triple-lock\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Jeremy Hunt, the former chancellor, and Michael Gove have both called for the policy to be scrapped,<\/a> and Conservative frontbencher Tom Tugendhat has called the policy \u201cunaffordable\u201d.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  In general terms, pensioners have some of the lowest levels of poverty in the UK. But the figures show that pensioners are worse-off than is commonly assumed.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Some 21% of single pensioners live in poverty, compared to 12% of pensioners in couples and 16% of pensioners overall, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jrf.org.uk\/uk-poverty-statistics\/overall-poverty-rates-for-children-working-age-adults-and-pensioners\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">according to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation (JRF).<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  That\u2019s compared with 22% of working-age parents in couples and a 21% range across all categories, including children.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  Pensioners in poverty amount to around 1.9 million people, according to the JRF.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  In a response to <a href=\"https:\/\/publications.parliament.uk\/pa\/cm5901\/cmselect\/cmworpen\/1384\/report.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">a report on pensioner poverty by a Commons select committee last year<\/a>, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/topics\/uk-government\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">UK Government<\/a> pointed out that the cost of the triple lock was expected to reach \u00a331 billion by 2029 and that pensioner <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/25063718.dwp-news-interviews-updates\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">benefits<\/a> cost the state \u00a3174.9bn, or 5.8% of GDP, in that financial year.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  The Institute for Fiscal Studies, a think tank, has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.heraldscotland.com\/news\/26595468.scotland-get-1bn-uk-social-care-reforms\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">predicted that Burnham\u2019s planned investment in social care could result in a boost of more than \u00a31bn to Scotland\u2019s budget<\/a> \u2013 but the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/25059069.news-interviews-updates-snp\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">SNP<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/news\/26597044.john-swinney-urges-andy-burnham-rethink-triple-lock-changes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">have highlighted analysis that suggested pensioners would be \u00a32000 worse off if the changes go ahead<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  To give <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenational.scot\/topics\/westminster\/?ref=au\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Westminster<\/a> a better understanding of pensioners\u2019 situation, Jackson, of the Scottish Pensioners\u2019 Forum, had an idea. \u201cI suggested that they should send one of the MPs up to Benbecula in the winter to live on the basic state pension and see how they get on,\u201d she said.\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  A UK Government spokesperson said: \u00a0\u201cThis settlement will ensure that the state pension system is built to last for the pensioners of today and tomorrow, in Scotland and across the UK.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cWe are committed to the\u00a0triple\u00a0lock\u00a0for this rest of this parliament, and the adjusted\u00a0triple\u00a0lock\u00a0will ensure a significant rise in the state pension every year.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\n  \u201cIt will always increase by at least the highest of 2.5%, CPI inflation or a new earnings link \u2013 and Pension Credit is available for pensioners on the lowest incomes.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The Prime Minister announced his ambitions to remove the link to wage growth in the triple lock 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