{"id":816777,"date":"2026-10-28T19:04:11","date_gmt":"2026-10-28T19:04:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/816777\/"},"modified":"2026-10-28T19:04:11","modified_gmt":"2026-10-28T19:04:11","slug":"heavy-metal-was-a-almost-a-religious-philosophy-it-was-rooted-in-a-sense-of-darkness-the-whos-pete-townshend-on-the-birth-of-heavy-metal-black-sabbath-jimi-hendrix-ac-dc-and-why-hes-trying-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/816777\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Heavy metal was a almost a religious philosophy. It was rooted in a sense of darkness.&#8221; The Who&#8217;s Pete Townshend on the birth of heavy metal, Black Sabbath, Jimi Hendrix, AC\/DC and why he&#8217;s trying to get in touch with Led Zeppelin&#8217;s Jimmy Page"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"google-follow-us-button hidden opacity-0 transition-opacity duration-300 no-underline hover:no-underline anchor relative text-inherit leading-none text-xs flex items-center gap-1 font-ui-heading\" data-component-name=\"UtilityBar:Google:Button\" href=\"https:\/\/google.com\/preferences\/source?q=loudersound.com\" aria-label=\"Add us as a preferred source on Google\" data-google-preferred-source-trigger=\"\" id=\"utility-bar__google-button\" data-analytics-id=\"article-social\" analytics-label=\"utility-bar-preferred-source\" analytics-name=\"utility-bar\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"article-social\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>Follow us<br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nAdd us as a preferred source on Google\n<\/p>\n<p>Newsletter<\/p>\n<p>\nSubscribe to our newsletter\n<\/p>\n<p id=\"elk-f003763c-d2d9-11f1-b480-afbd3819aa25\"><a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/10-underrated-pete-townshend-songs\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/10-underrated-pete-townshend-songs\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/10-underrated-pete-townshend-songs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Pete Townshend<\/a> has shared his thoughts as to whether <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/music\/albums\/the-who-albums-ranked\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/music\/albums\/the-who-albums-ranked\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/music\/albums\/the-who-albums-ranked\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Who<\/a> should be acknowledged as one of the godfathers of <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/tag\/hevay-metal\" data-auto-tag-linker=\"true\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/tag\/hevay-metal\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/tag\/hevay-metal\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">heavy metal<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The question arose during Townshend&#8217;s appearance on the Classic Album Review podcast, when host Barry Robinson referenced the evolution of heavy metal and noted that &#8220;everyone cites <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/black-sabbath-albums-ranked\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/black-sabbath-albums-ranked\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/black-sabbath-albums-ranked\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Black Sabbath<\/a> as being the band that started it, but The Who were bludgeoningly heavy and loud at that time.&#8221; Robinson then asked Townshend directly, &#8220;Do you think you have a place to play in that narrative?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"elk-seasonal\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"elk-f003763c-d2d9-11f1-b480-afbd3819aa25-2\">&#8220;In a way,&#8221; Townshend replies, &#8220;but I do think the difference really was that bands like Black Sabbath and all of the other big heavy metal bands &#8211; until Led Zeppelin came along who combined heavy metal with some softer songwriting and ballads and so on &#8211; heavy metal was a almost a religious philosophy. It was rooted in a sense of darkness, and often ironically.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Also the musicianship is extraordinary in heavy metal,&#8221; he continues. &#8220;A lot of heavy metal players cited the <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/the-who-live-at-leeds-album-review\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/the-who-live-at-leeds-album-review\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/the-who-live-at-leeds-album-review\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Live At Leeds<\/a> album as giving them permission in a sense to go nuts, to stretch out, and to jam.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But, no, I don&#8217;t necessarily think so. I think Live at Leeds is probably as explosive as it got [for The Who], but, we were still doing&#8230; like for example at Woodstock, we played a good chunk of Tommy and then we played some heavy stuff as well. We did both.<\/p>\n<p>Latest Videos From Louder<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The only heavy metal I really listened to was <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/ac-dc-albums-ranked-from-worst-to-best-the-ultimate-guide\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/ac-dc-albums-ranked-from-worst-to-best-the-ultimate-guide\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/ac-dc-albums-ranked-from-worst-to-best-the-ultimate-guide\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">AC\/DC<\/a>,&#8221; the legendary guitarist continues. &#8220;I never really got into <a data-analytics-id=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/every-led-zeppelin-album-ranked\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/every-led-zeppelin-album-ranked\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"inline-link\" data-before-rewrite-localise=\"https:\/\/www.loudersound.com\/features\/every-led-zeppelin-album-ranked\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Led Zeppelin<\/a>, which is strange because I&#8217;ve recently been trying to to get Jimmy Page to have lunch with me. I sent him a note recently just saying, I&#8217;ve been listening to all of the Zeppelin albums again, and there&#8217;s some fucking great stuff there. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s just that, at the time, I didn&#8217;t like it that they were in a sense trying to pinch our audience,&#8221; Townshend adds with a laugh. &#8220;I&#8217;d been through it before with Jimi Hendrix coming over, with his big amplifiers and his distortion, and his wah-wah pedal and everything else and, having to admit, Wow, here is a guitar genius.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I was kind of surprised, really, when I started to listen to Led Zeppelin at the the variations.&#8221; Townshend concedes, adding that he knew Jimmy Page could be a &#8216;shredder&#8217;. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know about bands like Black Sabbath and so on because I really didn&#8217;t listen to them despite the fact that they were great fun. I love the parts of the music business where people don&#8217;t take themselves too seriously.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>            You may like<\/p>\n<p>Watch the interview in full below.<\/p>\n<p>Pete Townshend: &#8216;Who by Numbers&#8217; | Squeeze Box&#8217; | Birth of Metal | Led Zeppelin &#8211; Change of heart? &#8211; YouTube<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/1793214251_395_maxresdefault.jpg\" alt=\"Pete Townshend: 'Who by Numbers' | Squeeze Box' | Birth of Metal | Led Zeppelin - Change of heart? - YouTube\" data-aspect-ratio=\"16\/9\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"watch-on-youtube-ORcdRZycQsY\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/ORcdRZycQsY\" target=\"_blank\" data-url=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/ORcdRZycQsY\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\" data-hl-processed=\"none\" data-article-category=\"bands-artists\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Watch On <\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"newsletter-form__strapline\">Sign up below to get the latest from Classic Rock, plus exclusive special offers, direct to your inbox!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Follow us Add us as a preferred source on Google Newsletter Subscribe to our newsletter Pete Townshend has&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":816778,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[96,128,56,54,55],"class_list":["post-816777","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-music","tag-entertainment","tag-music","tag-uk","tag-united-kingdom","tag-unitedkingdom"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/816777","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=816777"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/816777\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/816778"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=816777"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=816777"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/uk\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=816777"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}