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Assemblymember Patrick Ahrens, D-Sunnyvale, (left) proposed legislation that would ensure communications between employees and their labor representatives remains confidential. <\/p>\n
NATHANIEL LEVINE<\/p>\n
nlevine@sacbee.com<\/p>\n
In California, attorney-client privilege ensures that communication between an individual and their lawyer remains confidential. California labor groups are hoping 2026 will be the year that a similar, albeit lesser, privilege is extended to union representatives and their members.<\/p>\n
A bill authored by Assemblymember Patrick Ahrens, D-Sunnyvale, would prohibit employers from asking peace officers, teachers and other public employees about their conversations with their labor representatives. Ahrens and other lawmakers have introduced similar bills in recent years, though none of those efforts made it as far as a piece of 2013 legislation that former Gov. Jerry Brown vetoed.<\/p>\n
Opponents of this bill, and its previous iterations, said the legislation will create communication obstacles in critical public services areas and could make it more difficult to investigate wrongdoing by public employees.<\/p>\n
Last week, the Assembly Public Employment and Retirement Committee approved the bill with a near unanimous vote. Assemblymember Tom Lackey, R-Palmdale, was the sole no-vote.<\/p>\n
Sponsors of the legislation say that this bill essentially codifies existing rulings by the Public Employment Relations Board, which has previously issued decisions that employers infringed on union and employee rights by attempting to learn the content of their discussions. One of those decisions in 2018 found that a Southern California school district violated state law<\/a> when officials interrogated a union steward about whether employees had complained to her.<\/p>\n Without this legislation, employers could compel union representatives to disclose information that could harm members, said David Mastagni, a labor lawyer who spoke on behalf of the Peace Officers Research Association of California during a hearing<\/a> last week.<\/p>\n The lack of confidentiality \u201cchills trust in the union,\u201d Mastagni said in remarks captured by CalMatters\u2019 Digital Democracy database<\/a>.<\/p>\n He noted that the bill is written to ensure discussions related to criminal investigations are exempt, and the legislation does not supersede existing government code protecting public safety employees who are the subject of an investigation.<\/p>\n In a statement Ahrens said his legislation guarantees workers their basic right to due process by codifying PERB rulings on confidential communications between employees and their labor representatives.<\/p>\n \u201cEmployers have presented no compelling evidence that convinces me that employees shouldn\u2019t have basic representation rights,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n Opponents say bill would hamper investigations<\/p>\n Dorothy Johnson, a legislative advocate for the Association of California School Administrators, said this legislation would make it more difficult for employers to conduct administrative investigations into employees\u2019 actions.<\/p>\n Creating protections for union-employee communications could prevent supervisors from seeking information about staff-student boundary issues that may not rise to the level of criminal investigations, such as texting a student or giving minors a ride home, but is still not permissible, Johnson said.<\/p>\n This would furthermore impede larger investigations into wrongdoing by public employees by making it more difficult to gather evidence, Johnson noted.<\/p>\n \u201cThere\u2019s a difference between having an expectation of confidentiality versus having this privilege protected status,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n Mastagni addressed those concerns in last week\u2019s hearing by stating that school officials can still question witnesses about alleged assaults and employers can still ask about the facts of an incident. PORAC\u2019s support letter for the bill noted that if an employee brought a sexual harassment lawsuit, a union representative could still be forced to testify about conversations under this law.<\/p>\n Opponents also noted that the bill could disrupt efficient communication between employers and their workers.<\/p>\n \u201cYou don\u2019t really want your frontline service workers who are trying to work together as a team to be walking on eggshells every time they work on a project,\u201d Kyle Packham, the spokesperson for California Special Districts Association, said in an interview.<\/p>\n Members of CSDA include water, sanitation and fire districts. Packham said those critical public services would be impeded by Ahrens\u2019 bill because \u201cseemingly innocent conversations\u201d could be misinterpreted and become mired in adjudication with the Public Employment Relations Board.<\/p>\n The Legislature has considered similar bills in five previous sessions<\/p>\n Unions have long tried, and failed, to pass a similar measure to insulate communications between labor representatives and their members.<\/p>\n The legislature passed a version of this bill<\/a> in 2013 only for former Gov. Jerry Brown to veto the legislation. In 2024 and 2025, assembly members advanced similar legislation. Both times<\/a> the bills died<\/a> in the Senate Appropriations Committee.<\/p>\n The state worker unions supporting this bill, which include the California Association Of Highway Patrolmen and the California Association Of Psychiatric Technicians, have provided significant financial support of lawmakers. In 2024, those two unions contributed over $1.1 million to legislators, according to CalMatter\u2019s Digital Democracy database<\/a>.<\/p>\n Other unions that voiced their support for the bill included SEIU California, the California Professional Firefighters and Teamsters California.<\/p>\n Those groups have made similar statements of support arguing for the need to protect communications between unions and represented employees. The bill\u2019s sponsor, PORAC, said that these protections are not equal to attorney-client privilege.<\/p>\n In a supporting statement the law enforcement group said the legislation was a \u201cmodest and balanced\u201d approach to ensure public agencies cannot interfere with union representation communications.<\/p>\n Related Stories from Sacramento Bee<\/p>\n
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