{"id":269033,"date":"2026-04-15T13:03:11","date_gmt":"2026-04-15T13:03:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/269033\/"},"modified":"2026-04-15T13:03:11","modified_gmt":"2026-04-15T13:03:11","slug":"bob-odenkirk-on-normal-and-his-unlikely-status-as-a-new-action-hero","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/269033\/","title":{"rendered":"Bob Odenkirk on &#8216;Normal&#8217; and his unlikely status as a new action hero"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Bob Odenkirk knows what kind of action star he is \u2014 and, maybe more importantly, isn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>At 63, less than five years removed from a heart attack that nearly ended his life, the actor understands exactly what his body is capable of. He can\u2019t do high spinning kicks or elaborate gymnastics. He can\u2019t dodge 30 punches in a row. He\u2019s the same age as Tom Cruise but you\u2019re not going to see him hanging off the wing of a plane or sprinting across rooftops \u201cMission: Impossible\u201d-style.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTom Cruise is just in better shape than me,\u201d Odenkirk says over Zoom from New York in the gravelly, matter-of-fact Midwestern cadence that has carried him from his \u201990s alt-comedy sketch series \u201cMr. Show\u201d through his <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/awards\/story\/2022-05-17\/bob-odenkirk-better-call-saul-final-season\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Emmy-winning turn as Saul Goodman<\/a> on \u201cBreaking Bad\u201d and \u201cBetter Call Saul\u201d and into films like <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/movies\/la-et-mn-the-post-review-20171221-story.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cThe Post\u201d<\/a> and \u201cNebraska.\u201d \u201cI mean, he can do things I can\u2019t sell.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What Odenkirk can sell, as his unlikely turn as a suburban dad with a violent past in the <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/movies\/story\/2021-03-25\/nobody-review-bob-odenkirk-vod\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2021 sleeper hit \u201cNobody\u201d<\/a> and last year\u2019s sequel \u201cNobody 2\u201d made clear, is something more specific and, in its way, a lot more interesting. He can show you what it looks like when your neighbor \u2014 a guy who could be teaching an intro to business class at a night school \u2014 is capable of lethal violence. And he can be likable and funny while doing it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a certain kind of fighting that I can do that fits my face and my body type,\u201d Odenkirk explains. \u201cI can play a guy who is just going to wear the other person down. He\u2019s going to do the simplest moves he can find and they\u2019re going to be hard and they\u2019re going to hurt. That\u2019s what I can do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If it wasn\u2019t already clear that Odenkirk isn\u2019t your conventional action star, his new film \u201cNormal\u201d should seal the deal. In theaters Friday after a strong reception at SXSW last month, the genre-scrambling, darkly comic neo-western casts him as Ulysses, a principled small-town sheriff who takes a temporary posting in a sleepy corner of Minnesota called Normal. Haunted by a failed marriage and a past case that ended badly, he arrives hoping for a quiet stint and instead stumbles into a mystery involving his dead predecessor and a town whose friendly residents are suspiciously armed to the teeth and sitting on an enormous amount of wealth. As he starts to pull at the thread, Ulysses finds himself up against not just the entire community but \u2014 improbably, given the setting \u2014 the yakuza.<\/p>\n<p>            <img class=\"image\" alt=\"A suspicious sheriff lifts a coffee mug.\"   width=\"2000\" height=\"1333\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/1776258191_325_.jpeg\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/>         <\/p>\n<p>Bob Odenkirk as Sheriff Ulysses in the movie \u201cNormal\u201d <\/p>\n<p>(Magnolia Pictures)<\/p>\n<p>Indie distributor Magnolia\u2019s biggest theatrical push to date (opening on approximately 2,000 screens), \u201cNormal\u201d has enough over-the-top violence and elaborately choreographed kills to satisfy anyone coming for carnage. But for Odenkirk, it was the prospect of a slow burn that appealed to him, with a first stretch that plays closer to \u201cFargo\u201d before the mayhem ramps up to almost cartoonish proportions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis one had, like, one-and-a-half acts of mystery and a humorous look at small-town people,\u201d he says. \u201cThat was the part where I was like, I want to do that. Because, you know, otherwise, you don\u2019t need me \u2014 get Jason Statham.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Setting the film in the Midwest helped tune it to Odenkirk\u2019s particular temperament. The actor, who was born and raised in Illinois, developed the story with \u201cNobody\u201d screenwriter Derek Kolstad, best known for creating the \u201cJohn Wick\u201d franchise, and the two quickly bonded over a shared sensibility.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBob immediately leaped into this idea because he grew up in Naperville,\u201d Kolstad says. \u201cI grew up in Madison, Wisconsin, and we totally understood the mentality of small towns and how you can have the onion of a deep, dark secret. We love small towns. We\u2019re not making fun of them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The character they built for \u201cNormal\u201d was intentionally less mythic and more grounded than the former government assassin Odenkirk plays in \u201cNobody.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe is much more scrappy and internal and less about male rage,\u201d says the film\u2019s English director Ben Wheatley, best known for genre-bending fare like 2015\u2019s \u201cHigh-Rise\u201d and 2016\u2019s <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/movies\/la-et-mn-free-fire-review-20170420-story.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cFree Fire,\u201d<\/a> who drew on influences ranging from westerns to Hong Kong action films to the slapstick of the Three Stooges and \u201cEvil Dead II.\u201d \u201cUlysses can fight, but it\u2019s not about him becoming this kind of revengeful wraith moving through the movie dispatching people. It\u2019s action, but with empathy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>            <img class=\"image\" alt=\"A man in a dark top smiles at the lens.\"   width=\"2000\" height=\"2998\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/1776258191_739_.jpeg\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/>         <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe older you get, the more you realize you don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on,\u201d Odenkirk says. \u201cI like playing a person who has that level of experience of the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(Christina House \/ Los Angeles Times)<\/p>\n<p>For Odenkirk, part of the appeal was the opportunity to play someone closer to where he is now, not just physically but emotionally. \u201cI love the chance to play someone who is my age, who maybe was proud and full of himself when he was younger and then made some bad choices and feels a little lost,\u201d he says. \u201cThe older you get, the more you realize you don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on. I like playing a person who has that level of experience of the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Since surviving <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/tv\/story\/2021-07-30\/bob-odenkirk-heart-attack-recover-david-cross\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">his \u201cwidowmaker\u201d heart attack<\/a> on the New Mexico set of \u201cBetter Call Saul\u201d in 2021 \u2014 an event that left him unconscious for a day and with no memory of the following week \u2014 Odenkirk has little interest in projecting invincibility. If anything, the experience reinforced the value of the kind of work he\u2019s been doing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe truth is, the action movie helped save my heart,\u201d Odenkirk says, noting that the two years of intense training he did for \u201cNobody\u201d helped build up the blood flow that kept his heart from sustaining lasting damage.<\/p>\n<p>The aftermath of his near-death experience, he says, was just as profound. \u201cThe biggest thing was just this appreciation for being alive,\u201d Odenkirk recalls. \u201cThose first couple weeks, I woke up without any worry in my mind. I just rediscovered the world every morning and loved it. That feeling has faded \u2014 it\u2019s not as complete and pure as it was. But I know it\u2019s there.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That shift has carried into Odenkirk\u2019s approach to his work. In recent years, he has moved more freely between film, television and the stage, including a Tony nomination last year for his performance as washed-up real estate salesman Shelley Levene in the Broadway revival of David Mamet\u2019s play <a class=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment-arts\/story\/2025-03-30\/glengarry-glen-ross-revival-bob-odenkirk-michael-mckean\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cGlengarry Glen Ross,\u201d <\/a>choosing roles less for how they fit together than for how far they take him from what he\u2019s done before.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think he does it to surprise himself,\u201d says his \u201cNormal\u201d co-star Henry Winkler, who befriended the actor years ago when they met at a taping of \u201cLate Night With Seth Meyers.\u201d \u201cWhen you choose this profession, you don\u2019t just say the words. The fun is making somebody come alive that you don\u2019t necessarily identify with.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What comes next is, by Odenkirk\u2019s own admission, still taking shape. At this stage, the actor, who has a home in New York but lives primarily in L.A., is deliberately prioritizing the things he actually wants to do rather than rushing to line up the next job. He recently climbed Machu Picchu with his longtime friend and \u201cMr. Show\u201d co-star David Cross, filming the trip for a documentary, and has been helping his son \u2014 one of two adult children he shares with his wife Naomi, a producer, whom he married in 1997 \u2014 develop a television pilot.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m not racing to get my dance card full,\u201d he says, almost as an aside. \u201cI might be retired.\u201d After letting the thought hang a moment, he smiles and shakes his head. \u201cI don\u2019t think so. Nobody quits show business.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>            <img class=\"image\" alt=\"Two salesmen in suits sit in a bar booth discussing leads.\"   width=\"2000\" height=\"1367\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/1776258191_857_.jpeg\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/>         <\/p>\n<p>Odenkirk, right, and Donald Webber Jr. in the 2025 Broadway revival of \u201cGlengarry Glen Ross.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(Emilio Madrid)<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a version of Odenkirk\u2019s next phase that\u2019s easy to imagine: a late-career run of durable, increasingly grim action roles, the kind that has kept actors like Liam Neeson working steadily into their 70s. But Odenkirk sounds less interested in settling into that groove than in reshaping it. \u201cI understand that the audience goes to see weapons and death and gore,\u201d he says. \u201cBut for me, I\u2019ve got to be careful how much of that I put into the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>One possibility he\u2019s been actively discussing with Kolstad pushes in almost the opposite direction, inspired by a mutual love of Jackie Chan. \u201cThose early Jackie Chan films are really Buster Keaton\u2013ish \u2014 very likable, not bloody,\u201d he says. \u201cThis would be PG, essentially. You could even say G-rated. There would be no blood in it. It\u2019s doing clever fighting that makes you smile and laugh.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And if \u201cNormal\u201d succeeds at the box office, he\u2019s already thinking about where Ulysses might go next. Odenkirk and Kolstad have begun kicking around ideas for extending the character into an ongoing franchise. \u201cThere is no character I\u2019ve ever done that I feel as close to,\u201d he says. \u201cWith Saul and even with \u2018Nobody,\u2019 slipping into that guy\u2019s skin is a little challenging. This guy is a lot less challenging and I like playing him. So I can imagine resuming his story.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A little later in our conversation, he pulls out his phone, scrolls for a second, then hits play. What comes through the speaker is a demo he recorded singing a Tom Lehrer-style satirical show tune: \u201cIt\u2019s a New York night and it feels so right \/ The New York lights are shining bright \u2026 in Chicago.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The song is part of an album he\u2019s recording called \u201cOdenkirk Sings Nutter,\u201d featuring comedy numbers written by writer and playwright Mark Nutter, a longtime friend. Nutter, he explains, has spent years writing sharp, absurdist songs and musicals that have remained largely under the radar. The album is an effort to change that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cLike with doing an action movie, it\u2019s this notion of: If I can do this even respectably, I\u2019m going to blow everyone\u2019s mind,\u201d he says. \u201cThey\u2019re gonna be like, \u2018Are you kidding?\u2019 If I have any dream, it would be somebody listens to it and says, \u2018Who is this guy? Why don\u2019t we take some of these songs or one of his musicals and get people who actually can sing to do them?\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p>He smiles, more at the attempt than the outcome.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy whole career has felt like risk and danger and potentially being very deeply embarrassed on a world stage,\u201d Odenkirk says. \u201cSome part of me says I don\u2019t give a s\u2014 and that it\u2019s fine if I\u2019m embarrassed. I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s true. But I\u2019m willing to risk it.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Bob Odenkirk knows what kind of action star he is \u2014 and, maybe more importantly, isn\u2019t. 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