{"id":324445,"date":"2026-05-20T11:15:10","date_gmt":"2026-05-20T11:15:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/324445\/"},"modified":"2026-05-20T11:15:10","modified_gmt":"2026-05-20T11:15:10","slug":"san-francisco-man-wants-to-declare-bankruptcy-after-discovering-he-owes-80000-in-taxes-the-ramsey-show-disagrees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/324445\/","title":{"rendered":"San Francisco man wants to declare bankruptcy after discovering he owes $80,000 in taxes. The Ramsey Show disagrees"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Joshua and his wife thought they were doing reasonably well until a surprise <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywise.com\/news\/top-stories\/trump-tax-cuts-who-really-benefits?utm_source=syn_oath_mon&amp;utm_medium=WL&amp;utm_campaign=187777&amp;utm_content=syn_27b94e66-6364-4f68-8b48-f370e35387af\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:tax;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;tax&quot;}\" class=\"link \">tax<\/a> bill completely upended their finances.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Now, the couple is staring down a massive $130,000 debt load. That includes $80,000 owed to the IRS and another $50,000 spread across various credit cards.<\/p>\n<p>      Must Read          <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">\u201cIt seems like such an insurmountable number,\u201d Joshua admitted during a recent call (1) to <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywise.com\/managing-money\/budgeting\/dave-ramsey-divorce-college-tuition-savings?utm_source=syn_oath_mon&amp;utm_medium=WL&amp;utm_campaign=187777&amp;utm_content=syn_92b7f754-c4c6-46c3-8bd7-f65602a06ba8\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:The Ramsey Show;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;The Ramsey Show&quot;}\" class=\"link \">The Ramsey Show<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">On paper, their income looks solid. The couple brings home roughly $7,400 a month. Joshua earns a steady $4,400, while his wife pulls in about $3,000 from a seasonal <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywise.com\/news\/top-stories\/world-cup-2026-transit-fares-us-cities?utm_source=syn_oath_mon&amp;utm_medium=WL&amp;utm_campaign=187777&amp;utm_content=syn_d8b99987-b899-4484-86d7-4157f2460ba6\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Airbnb;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Airbnb&quot;}\" class=\"link \">Airbnb<\/a> cleaning business.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">But they live in San Francisco, one of the most expensive cities in the country, meaning that cash disappears fast on essential expenses. Once you factor in their $2,200 rent, the cost of raising a 14-year-old, and their high minimum debt payments, they are caught in a cycle where interest and penalties keep outpacing what they can pay down.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Now, Joshua is wondering if bankruptcy is the answer; however, co-host Ken Coleman warned that it isn\u2019t an easy escape route. IRS debt is rarely discharged in court, meaning filing could ruin their credit <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywise.com\/credit-cards\/how-does-bankruptcy-work?utm_source=syn_oath_mon&amp;utm_medium=WL&amp;utm_campaign=187777&amp;utm_content=syn_0fea0237-63ff-46dc-975a-91a81b1df665\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:without wiping out their heaviest burden;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;without wiping out their heaviest burden&quot;}\" class=\"link \">without wiping out their heaviest burden<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Instead, Coleman and co-host Jade Warshaw argued the couple needs to make some significant lifestyle cuts. Their immediate goal? Pay down the IRS before the government steps in.<\/p>\n<p>         Not just a debt problem    <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">For Coleman and Warshaw, the core issue isn\u2019t the $130,000 debt total \u2014 it\u2019s income and lack of organization. Despite bringing home a combined six figures, the couple doesn\u2019t adhere to a strict budget.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">That matters because even moderate incomes can collapse under high-interest debt. Credit card rates in the U.S. have averaged above 20% in recent years, meaning balances can grow quickly if only minimum payments are made. According to the Federal Reserve (2), debt has surged to record levels as households lean on credit to cover everyday expenses.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Coleman\u2019s advice was blunt \u2014 they need to bring in more cash right away. Joshua would need a second job or side hustle and his wife would need to work closer to full-time hours.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Although Joshua claimed his wife would be resentful toward increasing her work hours, Coleman pushed back, noting the family is already underwater.<\/p>\n<p>    Story Continues  <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Co-host Warshaw reinforced the urgency with her own experience. \u201cWhat if I told you I spent seven-and-a-half years paying off $460,000 of debt? And I didn\u2019t file for bankruptcy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">The message for Joshua was simple. The issue won\u2019t resolve itself over time \u2014 it will come down to income and intensity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Read More: <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywise.com\/investing\/real-estate\/ways-to-invest-in-real-estate?throw=HALF_yahoo&amp;placement_syn=placement_2&amp;utm_source=syn_oath_mon&amp;utm_medium=BL&amp;utm_campaign=187777&amp;utm_content=syn_f885e5e7-d98f-4920-9506-aa6a49d44ba1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Non-millionaires can now hoard property like the 1% \u2014 how to start with as little as $100;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Non-millionaires can now hoard property like the 1% \u2014 how to start with as little as $100&quot;}\" class=\"link \">Non-millionaires can now hoard property like the 1% \u2014 how to start with as little as $100<\/a><\/p>\n<p>       Bankruptcy vs. control   <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Joshua raised the idea of bankruptcy as a way out, but Warshaw and Coleman reframed it as something of a surrender. \u201cWhy relinquish [that] control?\u201d Warshaw asked.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">In bankruptcy, a licensed insolvency trustee is usually the one running the show, sorting through the assets, dealing with creditors and handling any money that gets distributed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Warshaw and Coleman\u2019s perspective is that even though Joshua\u2019s credit is already damaged by missed payments, bankruptcy locks in that loss of control.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">They added that creditors or courts can determine repayment structures or asset sales \u2014 decisions Joshua could still make himself if he chooses to negotiate or attack the debt directly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Warshaw framed it emotionally as much as financially. \u201cI\u2019m trying to give you the dignity of being able to make your own choices.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>     The reality check   <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Even without bankruptcy, the solution is not exactly quick and easy. The Ramsey hosts estimated it would likely take four to five years for Joshua and his wife to become debt-free, assuming aggressive changes are made.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">To hit that goal, they will need to stop making just the minimum payments, bring in an extra $2,000 to $3,000 every month, get strict with every dollar in the budget and prioritize paying off debt over lifestyle spending.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">The tradeoff is intensity, but the upside is that Joshua and his wife will actually see the finish line. Instead of years of minimum payments that barely make a dent, there\u2019s a clear end date they\u2019re working toward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">\u201cThe next four-to-five years, they aren\u2019t going to be fun,\u201d Warshaw warned.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">But she argued that the alternative \u2014 bankruptcy \u2014 simply replaces stress with loss of control and long-term credit consequences.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Data from the Federal Reserve (3) shows U.S. household debt continues to climb to more than $18 trillion, with credit card balances growing fastest among high-interest categories, intensifying pressure on families already living paycheck to paycheck.<\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">At this point, Joshua and his wife are weighing not just how to get out of debt, but how much short-term strain they can realistically take on to do it.<\/p>\n<p>     You May Also Like       <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">Join 250,000+ readers and get Moneywise\u2019s best stories and exclusive interviews first \u2014 clear insights curated and delivered weekly. <a href=\"https:\/\/moneywise.com\/subscription?throw=WTRN5_yahoo&amp;placement_syn=placement_3&amp;utm_source=syn_oath_mon&amp;utm_medium=BL&amp;utm_campaign=187777&amp;utm_content=syn_f958992c-a799-48f1-a74e-db575d1929f9\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\" data-ylk=\"slk:Subscribe now.;elm:context_link;itc:0;sec:content-canvas\" data-yga=\"{&quot;yLinkElement&quot;:&quot;context_link&quot;,&quot;yModuleName&quot;:&quot;content-canvas&quot;,&quot;yLinkText&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now.&quot;}\" class=\"link \">Subscribe now.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>     Article Sources   <\/p>\n<p class=\"yf-1fy9kyt\">We rely only on vetted sources and credible third-party reporting. 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