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Grading a manager when the team isn\u2019t yet at the halfway point, especially with someone of Vitello\u2019s background, seems hasty even though the results aren\u2019t what anyone envisioned.<\/p>\n
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\u201cI would say in my position I don\u2019t feel comfortable evaluating somebody in that position after 60, 70 games,\u201d\u00a0Minasian said. \u201cI would say that we lean on each other in this group and we want to challenge each other, so probably I\u2019ll ask Tony for an evaluation of me, Buster, we\u2019ll all talk and we want that type of feedback and hopefully we\u2019re better off for it. It\u2019s not one-sided.\u201d<\/p>\n
The fact remains that the team isn\u2019t winning consistently. The season so far has been grim. This is a multi-system failure, Minasian emphasized.<\/p>\n
\u201cAny time when you do try to evaluate a situation, very rarely does that come down to one thing, it\u2019s usually a lot of different things that just aren\u2019t working as well as what you would hope,\u201d Minasian said, adding that Logan Webb\u2019s return to form should help the pitching staff as a whole and \u201cthen you hope you can get both firing at the same time, pitching and the offense, and start winning more games.\u201d<\/p>\n
The manager most often compared to Vitello has become one of baseball\u2019s best \u2014 Pat Murphy of the NL Central-leading Brewers, who had great success at Arizona State before getting front-office and minor-league managing experience before working on Craig Counsell\u2019s staff in Milwaukee. Murphy didn\u2019t go straight from the college game to big-league managing, and he said he\u2019d have been unable to do so.<\/p>\n
\u201cKnowing what I know now, there\u2019s no way in hell I would have been ready for that,\u201d Murphy said. \u201cI think the difference is this guy\u2019s sharper and I think he\u2019s more balanced. I don\u2019t know him that well, but he\u2019s got a group of people around him ready to help him, and knowing Zack and Posey\u00a0\u2014 I\u2019m just judging Posey on the way he played the game, he knows that they\u2019re going to help him through all this.\u201d<\/p>\n
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Murphy said that when he was starting out as a big-league manager he found that it could be overwhelming at times.<\/p>\n
\u201cThe speed of the game, the speed of decisions, the magnitude of small things. I tell everybody that the only analogy that makes sense to me is it\u2019s harness racing compared to thoroughbred racing,\u201d Murphy said. \u201cThat\u2019s taking nothing away from the college game. It\u2019s a great game, it\u2019s better than ever.<\/p>\n
\u201cI\u2019m still trying to get there. I\u2019m still trying to become decent at it, but you can\u2019t make it about yourself.\u201d<\/p>\n
Murphy and Vitello had an impromptu 45-minute chat in the outfield in Milwaukee last week and both said that was Murphy\u2019s main point \u2014 remaining in the background. That is a tall order when Vitello is in such an unusual situation. Murphy said that the key is that managers must take themselves out of the equation internally so they can function at their best. Grinding on decisions isn\u2019t helpful.<\/p>\n
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\u201cAs soon as you realize all that suffering is your ego and it\u2019s about you, then you\u2019ll realize that that\u2019s not healthy and it\u2019s kind of selfish,\u201d Murphy said. \u201cMake it about the players and live by that creative credo\u00a0\u2014 which is very, very hard, no matter how many years you\u2019ve been doing it.\u201d<\/p>\n
Murphy said evaluating any manager is a tricky business because the roster ultimately determines results.\u00a0<\/p>\n
\u201cA lot of it is dependent on the players we have and where they\u2019re at in their career,\u201d he said.\u00a0\u201cI\u2019ve been very fortunate in my short career to have hungry players who are really interested in being really aware of winning baseball. I\u2019m the beneficiary of that and having a wonderful organization that cares about winning. I don\u2019t care about what other people are saying about it. I really don\u2019t.\u201d<\/p>\n
Murphy believes the Giants have put together a good bunch who will give Vitello a good shot to turn things around.<\/p>\n
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\u201cI think he\u2019s going to feel a lot better when the season ends, and you can take a\u00a0bird\u2019s-eye view, pull back and say, \u2018OK, where do I need to improve?\u2019\u201d Murphy said. \u201cTony\u2019s a bright guy who\u2019s interested in getting it right, and I think he will.<\/p>\n
\u201cThere\u2019s a lot of time left in the season to make this a great story.\u201d<\/p>\n
What do you think of the job Tony Vitello has done as Giants manager? <\/p>\n
The Giants have one of the worst records in baseball and Vitello’s decision-making has been under the microscope. How much blame falls on the manager for the team’s poor record?<\/p>\n
It is tough to judge on a small and awkwardly disappointing sample. My only consistent observation\/gripe is that TV is slow with the hook when a pitcher is struggling.
\nThe team is finally starting to hit. Though a couple key guys are still struggling.
\nRon Washington appears to be the Ground Ball Whisperer he was touted to be.
\nGo Giants !<\/p>\n
Randy<\/p>\n
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Vitello is certainly deserving of some of the blame, but with such a weak roster, most of the blame has to rest with the players themselves and with management. It’s puzzling how poorly the offense has been this year in light of the lineup but its hard to fathom how poorly the pitching has become–especially the bullpen. For as long as I can remember, the Giants have always focused on pitching first and now they stink. They let some great pitchers go….Kevin Gausman, Kyle Harrison, Blake Snell, Tyler Rogers, etc., and now they only have Logan Webb who is struggling. Posey has tried to build the offense at the expense of the pitching and it clearly hasn’t worked.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Giants manager Tony Vitello has had some ups and downs in his first season with the team after…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":360574,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[30],"tags":[10875,101,4820,103,102,104,106,105,127,10892],"class_list":["post-360573","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-san-francisco","tag-buster-posey","tag-san-francisco","tag-san-francisco-giants","tag-san-francisco-headlines","tag-san-francisco-news","tag-sf","tag-sf-headlines","tag-sf-news","tag-sports","tag-tony-vitello"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/360573","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=360573"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/360573\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/360574"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=360573"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=360573"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=360573"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}