{"id":42766,"date":"2025-11-07T18:04:11","date_gmt":"2025-11-07T18:04:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/42766\/"},"modified":"2025-11-07T18:04:11","modified_gmt":"2025-11-07T18:04:11","slug":"long-beach-city-council-weighs-options-on-underage-drinking-enforcement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/42766\/","title":{"rendered":"Long Beach City Council Weighs Options On Underage Drinking Enforcement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>LONG BEACH, NY. \u2014 A resolution to approve $18,000 in police overtime payments turned into a 40-minute discussion of underage drinking prevention policy at Wednesday night\u2019s City Council meeting.<\/p>\n<p>Council president Brendan Finn, council member Chris Fiumara and Long Beach Aware president Judi Vining all weighed in on the most effective ways to combat underage service at Long Beach bars. <\/p>\n<p>The discussion began with the third item on Wednesday\u2019s agenda, the acceptance of a grant for $18,800 from Long Beach Aware for police department overtime payment. The overtime payment funds part of collaboration between Long Beach Aware, the police department, prosecutors and city courts to curb underage drinking. <\/p>\n<p>During the discussion of underage drinking, Fiumara raised objections to a program that police commissioner Richard DePalma referred to as the \u201cguest doormen\u201d program, whereby undercover police officers work the door at Long Beach bars to stop underage customers before they can be served. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s a terrible program, personally. It\u2019s just my opinion. Do I think underage drinking is terrible? Yeah. Have I done it? Absolutely. But I have a 17-year-old daughter, and I know that some of her friends do it. I know she probably does it,\u201d Fiumara said. \u201cI know they\u2019re also good kids\u2026but it\u2019s the bar owner who should be getting in trouble for that, not the kid, because that\u2019s something they practice, not the kid.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>From the police department\u2019s point of view, DePalma called the guest doormen program a \u201cdisincentive to kids to go into bars, also it\u2019s to educate the bars, as well, on proper tactics to card properly and identify young kids.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In Fiumara\u2019s view, however, the plan places undue emphasis on stopping kids from seeking out alcohol rather than stopping the adults around them from enabling that behavior. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf [drinkers are] going to a bar and they\u2019re underage\u2026 that\u2019s the practice of that bar,\u201d Fiumara said. \u201cAnd, it starts at home, too. I\u2019ve had parents call and threaten bar managers, [saying], \u2018You took away my son\u2019s fake ID!\u2019 Not, \u2018Hey, thank you,\u2019 not calling the police, they\u2019re defending their 17-year-old kid trying to sneak into a bar.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Vining took to the podium at City Hall to respond to Fiumara\u2019s concerns, noting that Long Beach does hold adults responsible under the S<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lbeach.org\/news\/article.aspx?id=66656\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ocial Host Law<\/a>, which holds adults criminally liable for knowingly allowing underage drinking. Long Beach, Vining added, was the first municipality in New York to pass the law, moving from civil liability in underaged drinking cases to criminal. Additionally, Vining said, the current intramunicipal collaboration keeps kids from creating a permanent criminal record when caught drinking underage. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is no record. We designed this very carefully because nobody wants a child who makes a mistake \u2014 because their brain isn\u2019t formed enough to make a rational choice \u2014 to carry this for the rest of their lives. So, by design, we work hand in hand with the city courts as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Vining noted that underage drinkers under the current program are given the option of pleading not guilty in court and attending a three-hour online class through Long Beach Aware. Since 2020, Vining said, judges require attendees of that class to write an essay at its conclusion to show what they\u2019ve learned. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s really designed to help a kid get from here to there without ruining their lives,\u201d Vining said. &#8220;Because once we knew and heard 20 years ago that a child who begins drinking at the age of 14 on a regular basis \u2014 and regular doesn\u2019t mean daily or weekly, it means probably twice a month \u2014 has a 40 percent higher risk of developing a problem with alcohol or drugs later in life than a child who waits, you can\u2019t have that knowledge and not do something about it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the discussion, Vining invited the council to have a member attend monthly Long Beach Aware meetings, saying that, \u201cWe can\u2019t really do or talk about policies, or things like this, in depth, in three minutes under good and welfare.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSure, I\u2019ll be there,\u201d Finn said. \u201cI hope people are happy when I show up, but I\u2019ll be there.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"LONG BEACH, NY. \u2014 A resolution to approve $18,000 in police overtime payments turned into a 40-minute discussion&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":42767,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[131,133,132],"class_list":["post-42766","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-long-beach","tag-long-beach","tag-long-beach-headlines","tag-long-beach-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42766","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=42766"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42766\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/42767"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=42766"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=42766"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=42766"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}