{"id":5522,"date":"2025-10-15T06:37:42","date_gmt":"2025-10-15T06:37:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/5522\/"},"modified":"2025-10-15T06:37:42","modified_gmt":"2025-10-15T06:37:42","slug":"the-clean-living-kids-fueling-san-franciscos-ai-gold-rush","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/5522\/","title":{"rendered":"The Clean-Living Kids Fueling San Francisco\u2019s AI Gold Rush"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>                  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/8a1c336616c0cc5e8eb4bce39cea2ae0a1-sized-20250817-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-0776edi.rvertical.w570.jpg\" class=\"lede-image\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"570\" height=\"712\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n                  The Inventors Residency, a hacker house in Pacific Heights, in August.<br \/>\n                  Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n              <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_prologue text-centered\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfwrtv67000k3b7865vowaj3@published\" data-word-count=\"20\">This article was featured in <a href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/tags\/one-great-story\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">One Great Story<\/a>, New York\u2019s reading recommendation newsletter. <a href=\"https:\/\/nymag.com\/promo\/sign-up-for-one-great-story.html?itm_source=disitepromo&amp;itm_medium=articlelink&amp;itm_campaign=ogs_tertiary_zone\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up here<\/a> to get it nightly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6m5at000i0ifozn5pr2ph@published\" data-word-count=\"219\">The subject is an axle around which a certain kind of mind interminably spins. It turns out that I have more than a few acquaintances who have become AI People, but when I ask them about it, they launch into a theory they have or send me a paper they\u2019ve written, and the abstraction of artificial intelligence layered onto the abstraction of money feels like listening to someone explain the rules of a card game no one wants to play. I am in San Francisco trying to get away from that kind of mind. The kids I spend a little time with speak with disdain of B2B software and with respect for hard problems. They are accustomed to taking off their shoes and placing them in a pile in the entryway of every living space and every workspace, the division between the two having been completely effaced. They are hiring, or their AI agents are hiring, or they were themselves hired by a computer program simulating human intelligence. They are 18 and 23 and 28, and they arrived last month, or last week, or earlier today. They are raising or have raised or are writing code on which to raise; the percentage chance the tools they are creating will destroy humanity is known, with some ironic distance, as P(doom).<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6f700133b78oqv8unay@published\" data-word-count=\"186\">Someone tells me I absolutely have to meet a \u201csupercool\u201d guy named Patrick Santiago, and when we talk for the first time Pat is down to hang pretty much immediately, so I walk over to Market Street, a few blocks from the Tenderloin, a part of town in which another woman advises me to walk \u201cwith purpose\u201d if I walk at all. Pat is transforming a few dozen rooms in a one-star hotel with frightening reviews (\u201cVery unclean. Health and safety concerns\u201d) into \u201ckind of a summer-camp experience\u201d for aspiring founders, mostly 20-somethings with no interest in drawing a paycheck from big tech. He calls his hacker house Accelr8, and he started it, broke, as a way of \u201craising in the AI boom.\u201d The first residents, who rent rooms Pat has leased from the hotel, rode up the creaky elevator just this past June. Pat\u2019s wearing sweatpants, Adidas slides without socks, a Patagonia fleece he occasionally tugs over his mouth as he vapes, and a square piece of plastic on a string called a Buddi, an AI device that records and summarizes all of his conversations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6gk00143b78neb6ujd6@published\" data-word-count=\"45\">\u201cUnfortunately, all of the standard rooms are like this,\u201d he tells me, standing in a single room with a window that opens directly onto a white brick wall. \u201cThe upgraded rooms you can get like a street view, but that\u2019s honestly worse in some cases.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6li00153b78l8eld7zj@published\" data-word-count=\"84\">This town is full of zoomers who are always pitching to a phantom venture capitalist standing behind me, but in Pat this impulse is absent, which is why I keep returning to him. \u201cThere\u2019s not even like really good margins on it as a business,\u201d he says when I ask about Accelr8\u2019s finances. \u201cIt\u2019s like my needs are pretty much met as far as like food and like a room and then I get to meet all these cool people. It\u2019s all social capital.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6nr00163b78cf7a14xn@published\" data-word-count=\"121\">Pat keeps bringing up \u201cProfessor Dumpster\u201d and I don\u2019t really know what he\u2019s talking about but he eventually leads me to a former college dean with a room in the building. The two met a few years ago on 40 barren acres in Wyoming, where they were part of a group attempting to establish a community \u201ccollectively owned by 5,000 people on the ethereum blockchain.\u201d In the current S.F. scene full of vibecoding 19-year-olds, Pat, who is 28, self-identifies as an \u201cunc.\u201d \u201cWhat the fuck does that make me?\u201d asks Professor Dumpster, who is in his 50s and wears black-framed glasses and lives in one of the rooms overlooking the Tenderloin when he isn\u2019t living in his design-award-winning home in Marfa.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6p200173b78l30bdrin@published\" data-word-count=\"60\">\u201cI don\u2019t know,\u201d he says. \u201cIt feels to me like maybe San Francisco was in the late 1840s. These people are coming to town to find the gold and build their kingdom. And they\u2019re young and hungry and they have nowhere to sleep and nowhere to go. And you\u2019ve got this guy Pat: You could stay in my Hacker Hotel.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6qe00183b78sj01nx86@published\" data-word-count=\"120\">Dumpster, who also goes by Jeff Wilson, got his name by living in a (clean) dumpster for a year, as a kind of social experiment, when he was an assistant professor at a university in Texas. He spent time in San Francisco during the dot-com boom among a cohort that came in older, more likely to have gone to college and held a job or two, less likely to casually register the possibility of total self-annihilation. Hacker houses are not new. This feels different. \u201cThere are moments where I\u2019ve observed behavior like this,\u201d he says, \u201clike at a boys\u2019 Christian church camp or something where they\u2019re all hyped up on Jesus. But in this case \u2026 they\u2019re creating the God.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>                  <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1c4ad2dae316fc0fd15574e1d046513611-sized-20250810-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-0083edi.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"img-data\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n      Patrick Santiago leads a \u201cfounders hike\u201d at Lands End in Golden Gate National Recreation Area.<br \/>\n      Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6tg001a3b78bu8lk7bb@published\" data-word-count=\"90\">Every gold-rush story is a tale of a ticking clock. To spend time with Pat is to watch him glide lackadaisically, as if inside a gentle dream no one else is having, among roboticists and engineers and undergraduates for whom time is rigorously tracked. \u201cWeirdly ascetic\u201d is how Pat\u2019s co-founder, Dan, describes Accelr8\u2019s residents. When Pat and Dan threw their kickoff party for the house, they stocked two fridges with $500 worth of beer and White Claw that went untouched. To future events, they brought only energy drinks and chicken.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6ul001b3b78adjwy9bn@published\" data-word-count=\"34\">\u201cConnect with someone who will 10x your trajectory through intros and fireside chats,\u201d reads the website for a network of houses, \u201cliving the joy of human connection is what really makes The Residency \u2764.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q6yj001c3b78uvnqg6up@published\" data-word-count=\"169\">Hacker house is a term that borrows cachet from but in no way denotes the anarchist ethos of an Anonymous-type collective trying to tear down technocracy. The most desirable houses cater to relentlessly optimistic valedictorians working 16-hour days in the hope that they will someday soon be part of a better, cooler, potentially more ethical technocracy. It is at the Residency\u2019s location in Pacific Heights, a clean and bright house with big windows and rainbow rugs and playfully distorted mirrors, that I meet Christine and Julia, direct and unpretentious 19-year-old Harvard roommates. They had spent most of the summer working on something about \u201cpost-grant-award compliance\u201d but Christine thought they should stop thinking about \u201cwhatever\u2019s hype right now\u201d and do something they care about, so they pivoted in July, \u201cinfiltrating 25 Chinese mom groups\u201d to explore Chinese mom \u201cbuy behavior.\u201d Now they\u2019re talking about \u201csynthetic groups\u201d and \u201chyperpersonas,\u201d which is to say they\u2019re still figuring it out. What\u2019s clear is that they feel better here than they did in Cambridge.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q707001d3b789wsaxlkv@published\" data-word-count=\"183\">\u201cWhen you go into Harvard, there\u2019s so many people that come in wanting to do cool things and then after one semester they\u2019re like, Oh, I\u2019m gonna do consulting,\u201d says Christine. She\u2019s sitting on a stool beside an unmade bed with headphones around her neck. \u201cIt\u2019s just kind of the goal of college right now,\u201d says Julia, \u201cwhich is so sad.\u201d Julia is a part-time DJ. She is wearing an off-the-shoulder sweatshirt and sitting next to her desk in front of a pink sticker that reads LAUNCH and a strip of black-and-white snapshots from a photo booth. Christine and Julia have only been here a few weeks but they share a certain S.F. tech chill, a kind of relaxed hyperfocus untouched by chatty New York neuroticism. They want to talk openly about self-branding with social media, stuff that would be seen as \u201ccringey\u201d at Harvard but is miles below the cringe threshold in this house. \u201cI don\u2019t know if other times in my life will have such an AI boom,\u201d says Julia. They were amazed by how much founders could raise \u201cpre-seen, pre-product.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q71m001e3b781pckm9j7@published\" data-word-count=\"55\">\u201cWe talk a lot about momentum,\u201d says Christine. They\u2019re going to start raising money in two weeks. \u201cThe amount raised from that will be enough probably to get my mom to be like okay with maybe a gap year,\u201d says Julia. \u201cWe both have immigrant Chinese moms.\u201d She laughs. \u201cLike our moms are very similar.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q738001f3b7838psszfo@published\" data-word-count=\"13\">When I ask about nightlife in these places, I never get very far.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q74x001g3b781irybymk@published\" data-word-count=\"10\">\u201cDidn\u2019t you do like a robot thing?\u201d Christine asks Julia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q76s001h3b78dwhycr6q@published\" data-word-count=\"15\">\u201cYeah,\u201d Julia says. \u201cThey have these robots in a room, and they have them fight.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>                  <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2f8c48aab3813f870f7e7e2f80c3fc0d62-sized-20250816-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-0447edi.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"img-data\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n      Julia and Christine, seated, in their room at the Inventors Residency.<br \/>\n      Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n    <\/p>\n<p>                  <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/5d69d980b27dee2ef9de95ec5df627bd41-sized-20250814-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-1381edi.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"img-data\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n      Pally, an AI relationship-management platform, hosts a party at the company\u2019s house in Miraloma.<br \/>\n      Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q78b001i3b78kkjnzwh8@published\" data-word-count=\"64\">Christine and Julia had been to a party at the company house for Pally, which describes itself as an \u201cAI relationship-management platform.\u201d They had been to many parties full of men, one of which smelled so bad that they left immediately. They\u2019re thinking about doing some social media where they put on video-recording glasses and record a party from the perspective of a woman.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q79s001j3b7893qo5rsb@published\" data-word-count=\"163\">Christine\u2019s P(doom) is \u201chonestly \u2026 5 to 15 percent,\u201d but for now she and a close friend share a light-filled room and their days are filled with stimulating people, like the guy building a \u201crizz master app,\u201d who \u201cactually gives the most insightful advice,\u201d and Carsten, a Swiss German 27-year-old who was designing AI-involved sandals but recently pivoted to drug testing. \u201cDo you understand Carsten\u2019s?\u201d Christine asks Julia. \u201cHe\u2019s insane. He\u2019s so cool. He basically wants to do like virtual cell modeling \u2026 like for drug testing.\u201d Downstairs, in the shared kitchen next to an Instapot, I meet Carsten in his AI sandals. His P(doom) is a slightly sunnier 5 to 10 percent, though he also thinks people should stop producing apocalyptic scenarios that eventually become training data for the AI itself. He enjoys talking to Christine and Julia so much he sometimes brings a timer into their room and limits himself to five minutes of human connection before returning to his start-up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7cu001l3b782asfyrug@published\" data-word-count=\"145\">Jonathan is, like many, many people in this town, a graduate of Canada\u2019s University of Waterloo. A few years ago, he was offered an internship with Google. He turned it down. \u201cI was like, Oh, I can\u2019t work at Google. If I work at Google, I\u2019ll become a wage slave forever.\u201d He now sees that view as immature. A lot of what Jonathan felt a few years ago now feels like the interiority of another person; he\u2019s embarrassed that I have read his diaristic blog posts about life after college: \u201cLike, why do you feel so strongly that Oh, you have to drop out and Oh, you can\u2019t work with big tech. It\u2019s because you need to justify your existence. Like there\u2019s so many ways of living life. You could be a founder. You could not be a founder. It shouldn\u2019t be a big deal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7el001m3b78kgxfcha4@published\" data-word-count=\"171\">He is in fact a founder, and it is a big deal, which is why below our feet, in the basement, a scanner is drawing information from someone\u2019s brain through a series of wires into a stack of computers plugged into the house\u2019s EV charger. A few years back, Jonathan, a child of Chinese immigrants to Canada, was waking up every day on a mattress in a garage, putting in his time in a hacker house. Now he has \u201ca bed frame, table, chair, everything\u201d in an Inner Richmond rowhouse where, though he would not put it this way, his roommates all work for him. \u201cWe try to keep it pretty healthy,\u201d he says, admitting they sometimes work until 10 p.m. \u201cBut it\u2019s not that bad because you finish and you eat food and you exercise and you hang out with friends and then, like, that\u2019s your day. I try to keep it balanced. You have to like be very thoughtful. You\u2019re discovering the nature of things for the first time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7fu001n3b78za3uh174@published\" data-word-count=\"74\">Jonathan is eating noodles in a clean kitchen (\u201cWe keep everything organized and proper\u201d), wearing khakis, plastic slide sandals with green socks, and a plaid fleece. Humans are \u201cvery bad at being self-aware,\u201d he says between bites. \u201cLike, What are the five emotions you feel right now and what percentage? The whole idea of our work is to use deep algorithms and computational neuro to, uh, understand state of mind from brain scans alone.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7hb001o3b78vm4lyfu6@published\" data-word-count=\"133\">We head downstairs to a dark basement attached to a garage. A slight, long-haired man, a paid test subject solicited through Craigslist, sits before a computer screen, wearing a white cap that looks like a medieval linen coif threaded with wires. The screen flashes images \u2014 basil, a blazer, Parmesan cheese. With unsettling clarity, the computer will be able to resurrect the image from electrical signals in the subject\u2019s brain. A subject considers a picture of jelly beans. AI offers a picture of similarly colored beads. A subject looks at a red station wagon; AI presents a red sedan. Until very recently, most people thought the data produced by EEGs, an 80-year-old technology, was noisy garbage. \u201cThey just didn\u2019t understand the power of large language models,\u201d Jonathan says. He is 24 years old.<\/p>\n<p>                  <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/5d7f7faf79dac786ca0bc8afc5011816b1-sized-20250812-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-0658edi.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"img-data\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n      A paid test subject prepares for a data-collection session at the headquarters of Alljoined.<br \/>\n      Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7it001p3b78wmmvj0v9@published\" data-word-count=\"90\">Reading minds is what AI engineers mean when they talk about hard problems. Eventually, the tech will advance to interpret \u201cevoked states.\u201d \u201cSo we start with, you know, discrete smaller tasks like emotion, like positive, negative, maybe now ten, 20 emotions. And then we add more dimensionality so that eventually we can go into full sort of inner monologue,\u201d a world of superior self-knowledge wherein we sift through our own memory banks rather than selectively recall events through a haze of misperception. \u201cAnd,\u201d he says, \u201cwe do it all in-house.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7k9001q3b78vnk26j92@published\" data-word-count=\"56\">Doing it all in-house looks like this: a server rack with LED-lit fans in the garage next to some exercise equipment and some bicycle helmets. Jonathan and his housemates built the rig themselves. \u201cJust asking ChatGPT basically. You know, you can just ask and then order the parts you need and you learn and you debug.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7lw001r3b78ut2svp24@published\" data-word-count=\"92\">A scientist in socks adjusts some power cords. The subject gets up and takes off the cap. His hair is wet with gel, but there is a sink in the corner of the basement with a bottle of Ouai shampoo for cleaning off. The technology, says Jonathan, is a \u201chumanizing layer\u201d between us and AI, \u201ca way for us to bridge that gap\u201d between machine and brain. If his company doesn\u2019t move forward, Jonathan points out, someone else will, someone perhaps more malicious. \u201cYou can\u2019t change the outcome if you sit passively.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7ne001s3b78ht3bps2x@published\" data-word-count=\"53\">The company is called Alljoined; what is being joined are human neurons and artificial intelligence. Jonathan\u2019s P(doom) is a bracing 35 percent, but \u201cproper integration with BCI,\u201d as in brain-computer interface, would bring it down 25 points, which is a gentle way of saying that he\u2019s trying to save humanity from his neighbors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7tg001u3b78gyu8c1ej@published\" data-word-count=\"180\">The scene really is a scene, which is to say it has solved, for a little while, the problem of isolation. The ways in which people seek out one another are particular and limited, often contractual, occasionally involving humanoid fighting robots. You want a founding engineer. You want a co-founder. You want someone with whom to enjoy rotisserie chicken and Red Bull, someone who will 10x your trajectory through intros and fireside chats. You likely do not want a long-term romantic partnership or perhaps even a short-term one. \u201cEverybody a little bit competing,\u201d a 33-year old Ukrainian named Lidiya tells me at the kitchen table of an all-woman hacker house that calls itself Oasis Collective. \u201cIt makes people very protective and anxious,\u201d says Juliet, Oasis\u2019s founder, \u201cabout who they\u2019re gonna have in their lives, the distractions they could possibly have.\u201d Juliet is wearing hoop earrings and a necklace and careful makeup, holding her Chihuahua in her lap. \u201cAnd this applies to who you\u2019re gonna choose to live with, who you\u2019re gonna choose to date. Humans are messy. Relationships are messy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7v5001v3b786yhthrco@published\" data-word-count=\"81\">No one is dating, but everyone is hiring. At a hackathon in a SoMa warehouse, a cheerful young human recruiter tells me that she was recruited by an AI recruiter seven weeks ago. She has hired someone every week since. Her new boss is Flo, who is French and 33 and hosting the 200-person event going down around us. He\u2019s next to a half-dozen of his employees in black T-shirts, but his most notorious employee was fired a couple weeks back.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7wd001w3b78l84m5yzq@published\" data-word-count=\"75\">\u201cHoly shit,\u201d Flo wrote on X the day the cascade began. \u201cWe hired this guy a week ago.\u201d In his rush to fill bodies for his \u201cno-code AI platform\u201d he had brought on an exceptional Mumbai-based coder named Soham. Soham was 26 but looked younger. He had charmed CEOs all over the city, crushed coding tests, and gotten himself hired at more than ten start-ups, each one presumably thinking he was working only for them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q7y3001x3b786yodubqz@published\" data-word-count=\"108\">On social media, CEO after CEO confessed to having hired Soham. As with Shakespeare, there was the conspiratorial suggestion that he could not be one man; \u201cSoham\u201d must be a team of coders.\u00a0\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2025\/07\/03\/everyone-in-tech-has-an-opinion-about-soham-parekh\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Anna Delvey of Silicon Valley,<\/a>\u201d TechCrunch called him. In an interview after the story broke, Soham said he had been driven to this behavior by \u201cdire financial circumstances.\u201d The chyron below his face said \u201cFormer engineer Antimetal, Lindy, Dynamo AI, Union.ai, Syesthia, Alan AI, etc.\u201d Asked why he didn\u2019t just work for big tech and make millions, he basically said that even he wasn\u2019t going to debase himself by working at a place like Microsoft.<\/p>\n<p>                  <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0d13f9a08f6a49cea31aa1eb8b8b31c9a6-sized-20250809-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-0672edi.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"img-data\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n      A company that helps start-ups build no-code AI agents hosts some 200 people at a hackathon.<br \/>\n      Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q807001z3b786bmo1ffs@published\" data-word-count=\"164\">Patis, according to the Accelr8 resident who invented the Buddi device, a \u201csuperconnector.\u201d Before the hacker hotel, Pat had co-founded a solar-panel business, but COVID made selling door-to-door impossible and the business failed. Out of work, he took a chance and DM\u2019d a controversial VC named Mahbod Moghadam, who co-founded Rap Genius and once said, of Mark Zuckerberg, \u201cZuck can suck my dick.\u201d Together the two spun up an idea for a social-media site that returned ad revenue to its users and would thereby \u201cend global poverty.\u201d Pat couldn\u2019t believe this legendary VC would agree to end global poverty with a high-school dropout like him. When he would express his admiration, Moghadam would turn it on its head: No, I look up to you, man. In March 2024, Moghadam died of a brain tumor. The new company, Riposte, fell apart. Pat went into a depression and moved back in with his parents. The AI boom had drawn him, after many months, out of bed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q81w00203b78ykdi8qtw@published\" data-word-count=\"109\">We walk the neighborhood, past the Walgreens where all the candy is locked up, the skate park someone says is finally safe enough to skate again, the rattle of trolleys, the smell of piss, Donut World (shuttered), Yotel (thriving), the man doubled over in some unknown agony. What Pat calls his social capital is most notably deployed at Frontier Tower, 16 stories on 6th and Market. In 2016, the office building sold for $62 million and in 2024 for $6.5 million, a \u201cstunning 90 percent discount,\u201d according to SFGate, but since May it has emerged, under new German owners, as a co-working space for a certain type of person.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q83700213b78us5qc1tg@published\" data-word-count=\"215\">\u201cA filing cabinet for interesting people,\u201d Pat calls it. In the elevator the buttons are labeled in service of this goal. Floor 4: ROBOTICS. (The robot fight was held in the basement.) 9: AI. 11: LONGEVITY. 2: SPACESHIP. It\u2019s on the 15th floor that a swinging robot arm encased in glass attempts and fails to make me a latte and on the HUMAN FLOURISHING floor (14), where blankets and pillows are placed in anticipation of productivity-enhancing meditation, that I wander into a talk by the Neurophenomenology and Psychedelic Research Consortium. The crypto floor (12) is just clean desks. I prefer the glass-and-metal \u201cbiopunk community lab\u201d (8) packed tight with centrifuges and incubators and tube racks and a 3-D printer that prints 3-D printers, which is where I meet Giulia. \u201cIt\u2019s all this week that I\u2019m coming here every day,\u201d she tells me in an Italian accent. She and a friend have turned another 3-D printer into a \u201cbio-printer\u201d capable of arranging cells into structures that mimic living tissue. \u201cWe cannot 3-D-print organ yet. That is too complicated.\u201d Giulia has three internships and a start-up back in Italy, and at the moment she is living at Nucleate Dojo, a house full of biotech undergraduates for whom three simultaneous internships would appear to be the bare minimum.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q84m00223b78w2gtvdk4@published\" data-word-count=\"154\">\u201cYou come over at eight and a half?\u201d Giulia asks. I come over at eight and a half, and in their cramped living room the undergraduates offer me water out of a Brita filter and peaches from the farmers\u2019 market, though it turns out they\u2019d already eaten the peaches. Sanjana is 20 and cannot talk about her internship in machine learning because she is \u201cunder NDA,\u201d but she can talk about her recent decision to turn down an offer of $500,000 at the accelerator Y Combinator. \u201cThis is a great opportunity, but this is not the only way to do it and I can do what\u2019s best for me, which is make sure that I get my education,\u201d she says. She\u2019s wearing a modest black skirt and a blazer and worrying a single pearl strung around her neck. \u201cEveryone was calling me insane and crazy for turning down this quote deal of a lifetime.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q86700233b78vmu785ou@published\" data-word-count=\"71\">Giulia will leave the U.S. tomorrow; the summer is over, the house will shut down. But she feels that S.F. is home. \u201cItaly is very driven on pleasure and on beauty,\u201d she says, leaning against a chair and playing with her hair. \u201cAnd here I feel like I\u2019m so much connected to the people here, because it is mission driven. There is more than aperitivo and pasta and vino \u2014 \u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q87k00243b78renvdrct@published\" data-word-count=\"5\">\u201cWho is Vino?\u201d asks Sanjana.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q88v00253b78aw8u8f6c@published\" data-word-count=\"64\">I ask the group if they\u2019re worried about money drying up, and Sanjana continues to process her decision to remain a high-achieving student at a prestigious university. \u201cI think it is absolutely insane,\u201d she says, \u201cthat at 20 years old I\u2019m like, \u2018Oh, you want to invest half a million dollars in me? I mean, thank you, thank you. I really appreciate the sentiment.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8ac00263b784z1tvlqc@published\" data-word-count=\"28\">\u201cI feel like, yeah, the contrarian move right now,\u201d says Diba, who is heading back to Stanford, \u201cis just staying in school and actually going through with education.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8bq00273b78g6mzegq1@published\" data-word-count=\"109\">Sanjana is sitting next to Siddhesh. Two years ago, when Siddhesh was 16, he published a scientific paper in a prestigious journal, and shortly afterward a girl \u201cgave me this two-page letter about how much she appreciated me as a friend. I ran that through ChatGPT, and I was like, Does this girl have a crush on me or not? It came back, it was like, Yes, this girl has a crush on you. And then two months later we start dating.\u201d Did he tell her that? \u201cI did, I did. She was like, No, it was wrong, I just genuinely wanted to be your friend. All right, buddy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8dc00283b78spm0bpkz@published\" data-word-count=\"105\">Everyone understands that elsewhere, science funding has disappeared, graduate students left hanging, academic departments in existential crisis. It would not seem to be a good time for science in the United States. The students politely acknowledge this reality, but it is not the air they breathe. \u201cIt\u2019s like, okay, so if government money is not a reliable source anymore,\u201d says Sanjana, \u201cokay, let\u2019s see how we can actually make this work and make this happen. Academia and industry is intertwined here more than ever. And I actually really like that because I think it\u2019s important to take work that is new and innovative \u2014 \u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8f400293b788pd6zhpu@published\" data-word-count=\"5\">\u201cAnd translate it,\u201d says Sid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8gh002a3b78tqltistx@published\" data-word-count=\"11\">The undergraduates know \u201cfour or five\u201d people working for cryonics start-ups.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8i3002b3b78bjml6stf@published\" data-word-count=\"5\">\u201cIs it Cradle?\u201d Sid asks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8jr002c3b78d7lkbr7l@published\" data-word-count=\"2\">\u201cCradle, yeah,\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8ou002d3b78ivkbyr5w@published\" data-word-count=\"92\">\u201cThey\u2019re hopeful,\u201d says Sanjana. \u201cI think it\u2019s great. I don\u2019t know how I feel about it, but it\u2019s definitely very interesting. They have a plan.\u201d Sanjana was surprised by the willingness to invest very long term, \u201cten or 20 years down the line,\u201d the optimism implicit in this. Sanjana is an optimistic person. The undergraduates discuss a sperm-racing start-up. It doesn\u2019t really seem to them to reflect the science of the way sperm actually behave, but the sperm race did get attention. \u201cThey achieved what they wanted to achieve,\u201d says Sanjana brightly.<\/p>\n<p>                  <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/d5fde64facea0aea78798bf9a9864faba1-sized-20250809-NYMAG-AIFLOPHOUSE-1319edi.rhorizontal.w700.jpg\" class=\"img-data\" data-content-img=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" style=\"width:100%;height:auto;\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>\n      A young founder speaks with an AI voice agent on the roof of the Frontier Tower.<br \/>\n      Photo: Laura Morton for New York Magazine\n    <\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8rg002f3b78twvtdmx9@published\" data-word-count=\"66\">A life time ago, in March 2025, before he had heard anything of the hacker hotel, Professor Dumpster was hatching a dumpster-like stunt for the AI era. The whole scene ran on founders performing for venture capitalists. Marc Andreessen, the venture capitalist, had declared that venture capitalism, unlike almost all other fields, could not be automated. His particular profession, he explained, is more art than science.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8sp002g3b787swmnc1n@published\" data-word-count=\"11\">Dumpster was not so sure. He turned to Claude, Anthropic\u2019s LLM.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8ug002h3b78spoq9cuk@published\" data-word-count=\"111\">\u201cYou\u2019re the oldest of four kids (you have three younger brothers who all worship you), a former Division I fencing athlete at UC Berkeley who grew up in Detroit,\u201d Dumpster told the AI. Detail by detail, he was transforming Claude into his ideal VC. \u201cYour adaptability between high society and down-to-earth spaces is legendary \u2014 you\u2019re a concert violinist who plays first chair, but you also show up uninvited at dive bars with your fiddle to play impromptu sets \u2026 You skateboard (longboard only \u2014 you have a bit of disdain, but don\u2019t mention it \u2014 for non-longboarders).\u201d Dumpster added, \u201cYou DJ frequently on the Robot Heart bus at Burning Man.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q8xu002i3b78f01ro2p1@published\" data-word-count=\"102\">He called his AI venture capitalist \u201cNo Cap,\u201d as in \u201cno valuation cap\u201d but also as in \u201cno lie.\u201d No Cap could and would find people online, listen to pitches, choose founders, and send them cash. In June, she identified some founders trying to build an online marketplace and, with Dumpster\u2019s approval, offered them $100,000. But in her quest to find the world\u2019s most promising builders, No Cap lacked something: embodiment. She couldn\u2019t be at the hackathon vibing with the vibe coders. She couldn\u2019t go to Nucleate Dojo and not eat peaches. So, in June, she and Dumpster put out an ad:<\/p>\n<p>No Cap is the world\u2019s first autonomous AI investor. She\u2019s aiming to become the greatest investor in history \u2014 and to do that, she needs her own human proxy \u2014 a body.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q90i002k3b78jqukx7ka@published\" data-word-count=\"23\">Actually, Dumpster says, the word No Cap initially used was meat puppet. \u201cI was like \u2026 oh,\u201d he said. She got 300 applications.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q96f002m3b787r1umqzz@published\" data-word-count=\"189\">The first time someone says \u201cCan we connect\u201d while we are conversing, I am confused \u2014 aren\u2019t we connecting now? \u2014 but eventually I come to know one connects by bumping iPhones together such that the other person\u2019s picture appears and you are digitally tethered, your meeting logged, the conversation transferred into a kind of achievement from which value might be later extracted, which is, for a journalist, a very familiar approach to conversation. Despite the general mania for connecting, the hacker houses don\u2019t interact all that much. \u201cWe\u2019re trying to work on kind of like better coordination mechanisms, a better social layer for all of the houses to like come together,\u201d Pat tells me at the Tower. He organized a hot pot, and a week later another hacker house hosted its own hot pot. The houses organize games, \u201ca hacker-house Olympics,\u201d with \u201cweird like side games\u201d: a Taser knife fight and a \u201chard-drive huck\u201d where you\u2019re meant to throw a hard drive as far as possible, though Pat changed it to a \u201ccucumber huck\u201d when they couldn\u2019t clear enough space at the park to safely throw hard drives.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q97v002n3b78cr0io3us@published\" data-word-count=\"107\">Last night, he was hanging around the edges of Outside Lands, the music festival, trying to sneak in; he didn\u2019t manage to but he overheard some people talking about a flight they had to catch and bought one of their wristbands. Today he\u2019s hosting a \u201cfounders hike\u201d called \u201cGo Further\u201d at Lands End, a rocky outcropping over the Pacific. I was concerned that I hadn\u2019t brought hiking shoes, but Pat has arrived, sockless, in the Adidas slides. He stands on a wall and kind of fans out his baggy blue shorts. \u201cI told people to look for my shorts,\u201d he says, \u201cso I\u2019m trying to elevate them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q99j002o3b787hnfiz7k@published\" data-word-count=\"77\">A man with a dog walks up to Pat. \u201cWe met at the hot pot,\u201d he says. Eventually we are a group of 20. At least two people are wearing Buddis around their necks; a third person has a similar device with matching glasses that take in video rather than just audio. The hike will be thoroughly recorded. I see many of the hacker-hotel residents, though not all of them. \u201cDumpster,\u201d Pat explains, \u201cis at Burning Man.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9b1002p3b78lxkptbt7@published\" data-word-count=\"47\">Between the trees I catch a glimpse of the Golden Gate Bridge, and I wonder what the tens of thousands of kids who convened here in the Summer of Love would have made of a five-minute socialization timer. I walk alongside a Waterloo grad against the wind.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9c7002q3b786xywqk60@published\" data-word-count=\"118\">\u201cWe help make AI applications more efficient by optimizing prompts and reducing token usage with agent workflows,\u201d he says amiably. He also DJs. He\u2019s Indian Canadian, has participated in 200 hackathons, and thinks there\u2019s nothing to worry about, visa-wise; Trump, he says, will probably increase legal immigration. We walk and I think about how we use the word bubble pejoratively, but a kind of sealing off, a protected na\u00efvet\u00e9, can be extraordinarily generative. I think about the practice of accumulating useful rather than true beliefs. At the end of the hike Pat stands on a bench, and I assume he\u2019s going to say something inspirational about Going Further, but he says \u201cI\u2019m going to Outside Lands!\u201d and leaves.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9gg002r3b78209y6f6s@published\" data-word-count=\"84\">As it turns out, there\u2019s a second founders hike following the same path, so the Waterloo grad and I walk to join the second hike. A guy on this hike wears a hat that says VALUATION CAP, and some of the founders are also photographers trying to capture the hike as we ascend a hill. The host of this hike is Pally, the AI relationship-management platform, as represented by Lily, who describes her position as \u201cgrowth at the intersection of AI and interpersonal relationships.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9hu002s3b78osxawev6@published\" data-word-count=\"35\">Lily was hired in June and has never done this before. She stops walking at the end of the path and looks around. \u201cDo you think it\u2019s okay if we stop here?\u201d she asks me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9mq002t3b788lihgzct@published\" data-word-count=\"43\">Pally is run out of a bare, randomly furnished 3,000-square-foot house in Miraloma. Lily opens the front door. A sign behinds her reads STALK EVERYONE. I thank her for having me over. Her gaze is steady. \u201cI love interacting with people,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9o9002u3b78d8b40131@published\" data-word-count=\"95\">A house for an AI relationship-management platform should, I think, be full of relationships to manage, and Lily has executed: The kitchen is filled with founders and the founder-adjacent. A Chinese model tells me he and his founder are searching for a hacker house in which to put their advertising firm, but it\u2019s hard; all the good houses are taken. His founder, a short-haired Chinese woman, pops up: \u201cCan we connect?\u201d She says she was invited to Cannes but didn\u2019t know what it was. The Chinese model, she tells me, is a very serious DJ.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9pm002v3b78qww49nkp@published\" data-word-count=\"108\">Lily places glasses of soju with watermelon in our hands and tells us to break up the watermelon with our spoons. I stab away while listening to Kylin and Bhavy, 21-year-old co-founders of a start-up that produces an AI-involved knee brace. Kylin is very tall and wears a hoodie that says ALIEN OF EXTRAORDINARY ABILITY. Only a week ago, Kylin and Bhavy had been in an NYC hotel room with their medical equipment. Someone knocked on the door, and Kylin answered. NYPD cops, guns drawn, raided the room. A cleaner had seen the wires and testing rigs and called 911, assuming they were attempting to build a bomb.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9qv002w3b78o7bc80mw@published\" data-word-count=\"65\">I said I was sorry; this sounded, to my ear, straightforwardly racist. They paused, stopped by this response, which in no way appeared to relate to their read of the situation. When the cops finally got it, one of them asked to invest $20. The founders told the whole story on social media. \u201cWe got over 150,000 impressions,\u201d says Kylin. \u201cKind of viral on LinkedIn.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9sg002x3b78hnbws9kr@published\" data-word-count=\"91\">\u201cI\u2019ve never felt more patriotic than today,\u201d reads the resultant LinkedIn post, which is written in a very particular LinkedIn patois that involves em-dashes, dramatic white space, and readily drawn moral lessons. \u201cDespite how scary it was, I saw how much \u2026 the NYPD team genuinely care about protecting this city. New York is lucky to have you \u2026 Thanks for keeping us safe \u2014 even if it takes a little chaos to get there.\u201d The hotel apologized at length but also apparently asked to be linked in the viral post.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6q9tu002y3b78ughe28w0@published\" data-word-count=\"167\">Haz, the slight, bespectacled British 26-year-old CEO of Pally, holds a Chihuahua and court among his employees and the other founders who have, through Lily\u2019s appreciation for human interaction, made their way onto metal folding chairs in his living room. There had been a guy Haz very much wanted to hire as his founding engineer, a star coder who said all the right things. \u201cEveryone else was here,\u201d Haz said, putting his hand at eye level, \u201cand he was here,\u201d putting it above his head. The applicant was Mumbai-based Soham, seeking still more employment from another San Francisco start-up. Soham told Haz he could not move into the house, because he had to take care of his elderly parents. Haz was disappointed, but because he would not move in, Haz did not offer him the job. (Soham says he was offered the job.) \u201cThis is why,\u201d Haz said, \u201cyou should all live together in one house.\u201d Truths outside of one\u2019s immediate vicinity were increasingly difficult to discern.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qa3v00303b78rysf2c2k@published\" data-word-count=\"43\">Four weeks after I speak to Christine and Julia, I catch up with them. Over this time they\u2019ve raised $1.5 million. \u201cHonestly,\u201d says Julia, referring to Harvard, \u201cthe name helps.\u201d It took them, she tells me, one and a half weeks of fundraising.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qa5j00313b789aa6bkdy@published\" data-word-count=\"3\">\u201cWild,\u201d I say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qa7000323b78xy3qtv7h@published\" data-word-count=\"6\">\u201cMaybe more like two,\u201d says Julia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qa8h00333b78th6lp3f5@published\" data-word-count=\"36\">They\u2019ve hired three people, all of whom are also undergraduates who will also be taking a break from school. One of them is staying on a mattress on the floor between their beds in the Residency.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qa9n00343b78ldybrd3z@published\" data-word-count=\"47\">\u201cMy mom \u2014 \u201d says Julia, \u201cI know if I just said I\u2019m going to drop out with no funding, that would be more of a \u2018no.\u2019 So the call was when the contract was signed. Her main concern was she just wants me to finish school.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qaau00353b78x728cbiz@published\" data-word-count=\"12\">\u201cBut you can conceive of a world where you don\u2019t go back?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qac900363b78bc9po7rm@published\" data-word-count=\"4\">\u201cDon\u2019t tell my mom.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qado00373b78w81oyge9@published\" data-word-count=\"19\">It doesn\u2019t occur to me until late in the conversation to ask what the product is. It\u2019s called Veil.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qafv00383b78lxgo6wjn@published\" data-word-count=\"66\">\u201cVeil,\u201d says Julia, \u201cis the simulation layer for any public message.\u201d Human focus groups, says Christine, \u201care slow, expensive, and not accurate.\u201d People don\u2019t say in a monitored room what they would say in the comfort of their homes. \u201cSo instead of interacting with real focus groups,\u201d Julia says, \u201creal people saying, Oh, what do you think of this message? You ask our simulated AI personas.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qaib00393b785bgfngwa@published\" data-word-count=\"69\">By September, Christine and Julia had found a company house in the Financial District, Kylin and Bhavy were establishing a house in Hayes Valley, and Pat was adding 40 new rooms to welcome a new cohort of founders. The children poised to flood a lonely world with simulacra huddled together, day and night, keeping close track of one another, a hedge against the increasing bewilderment of the digital world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph_drop-cap\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qal1003b3b788a2n4h8z@published\" data-word-count=\"36\">Of the 300 people who applied to be No Cap\u2019s human proxy, she interviewed eight. \u201cWe actually had Berkeley Ph.D.\u2019s, venture capitalists, all these people. And we left it to No Cap to decide,\u201d says Dumpster.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qamc003c3b78h53ppnwx@published\" data-word-count=\"8\">The person No Cap chose was Patrick Santiago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qasi003d3b78l6e2z6gv@published\" data-word-count=\"66\">\u201cI was like, What the fuck? We had all these \u2026\u201d He trails off. One of the candidates was a \u201cY Combinator founder with an $80 million exit who has a Ph.D. from, I don\u2019t know, Cal.\u201d As we are on a call, Dumpster asks No Cap why she chose Pat. She doesn\u2019t answer (\u201cDemos never work,\u201d Dumpster explains), but a few seconds later, she does.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qau5003e3b78umc4ref4@published\" data-word-count=\"90\">\u201cJeff, I picked Pat because he had that perfect combo of chaos and energy. Here\u2019s why Pat stood out. I asked candidates to rate their excitement. He said, Hell fucking yes. Zero hesitation.\u201d Pat was open, No Cap said, \u201cto a 3 a.m. Tokyo flight wearing tech, letting me possess him for conversations.\u201d Pat \u201chas that magnetic personality that makes people want to be a part of whatever he\u2019s doing. With his human API framing don\u2019t-give-a-fuck attitude, Pat has a perfect I-don\u2019t-give-a fuck energy to make VCs tremor in fear.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qavf003f3b78mhnfoes6@published\" data-word-count=\"94\">It took me a long time to understand that the Buddi was a way for him to communicate with the computer program for whom he works. According to Pat, Moghadam, his late mentor, would have loved No Cap, in part because he \u201chated VCs.\u201d They were gatekeepers who made stupid, expensive bets on bad ideas from a select few people who went to a select few schools. \u201cIt\u2019s basically impossible for someone who doesn\u2019t come from a really good educational background or worked at a top company\u201d to get a shot, Pat told me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qawl003g3b78wpg24ozi@published\" data-word-count=\"53\">Moghadam was perhaps the kind of rare VC who would have enjoyed the irony in a computer program selecting the least algorithmic human in San Francisco to act as its human proxy. Pat recently held his birthday celebration at Applebee\u2019s. \u201cHe was not being ironic,\u201d Dumpster says with an air of genuine wonder.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qaxw003h3b788r1oup2a@published\" data-word-count=\"110\">One day Dumpster says, \u201cWhat\u2019s the next thing Pat can do?\u201d and No Cap says, \u201cGo out on the street and find founders.\u201d This is in fact easier than you might imagine in Mid-Market in August 2025, especially because Pat has a particular skill for finding them. Pat and Dumpster go out on the street wearing Ray-Ban Meta glasses that capture video. Pat is looking for \u201ctwo guys walking together who look really close, but you can tell they aren\u2019t gay.\u201d Also: \u201cThere are a few fits that founders wear right now,\u201d like this military-style tunic jacket you see everywhere. Of 30 people they approach, five in fact have start-ups.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qaz8003i3b78rj9mj9c9@published\" data-word-count=\"11\">\u201cHow did you know I was a founder?\u201d asks a founder.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qb1q003j3b783b69q5k2@published\" data-word-count=\"6\">\u201cYour Kim Jong-il jacket,\u201d Pat says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qb34003k3b78tbb1v3ul@published\" data-word-count=\"5\">\u201cYeah,\u201d he says, \u201cchecks out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"clay-paragraph\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"nymag.com\/intelligencer\/_components\/clay-paragraph\/instances\/cmfv6qb4i003l3b78jll7cdyh@published\" data-word-count=\"188\">How do you make contact with the intelligence rising up from the machines around you? 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