{"id":236247,"date":"2026-04-17T22:42:09","date_gmt":"2026-04-17T22:42:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/236247\/"},"modified":"2026-04-17T22:42:09","modified_gmt":"2026-04-17T22:42:09","slug":"josh-pate-gives-grim-outlook-on-florida-states-immediate-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/236247\/","title":{"rendered":"Josh Pate Gives Grim Outlook On Florida State&#8217;s Immediate Future"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I think they&#8217;ve got to improve to be mediocre right now.&#8221; &#8211; Josh Pate<\/p>\n<p>PublishedApril 17, 2026 5:20 PM EDT\u2022UpdatedApril 17, 2026 5:20 PM EDT<\/p>\n<p>FacebookTwitterEmailCopy Link<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">I have spent a fair amount of time recently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/florida-state-seminoles-up-usual-practice-antics\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">discussing the Florida State Seminoles<\/a> and, more specifically, just how grim things are looking in Tallahassee right now.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">You could argue part of that is because I am a fan of a rival team, but I do think even to the objective, unbiased viewer, the outlook isn&#8217;t exactly rosy for Noles fans in 2026.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">One of those &#8220;objective, unbiased viewers&#8221; is none other than Josh Pate, and he discussed the murky future for the Seminoles on the latest episode of Josh Pate&#8217;s College Football Show.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/two-rivals-failing-hold-up-end-bargain-doomed-acc-irrelevance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">READ: Two Rivals Failing To Hold Up Their End Of The Bargain Doomed ACC To Irrelevance<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">&#8220;I think they&#8217;ve got to improve to be mediocre right now,&#8221; Pate said.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">&#8220;Everyone hates on average. Average is not the worst thing in the world, bad is the worst thing in the world.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">Pate went on to discuss the mirage of Florida State&#8217;s Vegas win total, stating that while 6.5 wins looks like an improvement on the surface, when given a different, more difficult schedule, it paints a different picture and knocks the Noles down two full projected wins.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/sunshine-state-recruiting-about-fun-again\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">READ: Sunshine State Recruiting Is About To Be Fun Again<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">&#8220;If we changed nothing about Florida State&#8217;s team, but we give them Florida&#8217;s schedule this year,&#8221; Pate said, &#8220;their over\/under win total would be 4.5\u2026 which would be second-lowest in the SEC behind only Arkansas.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">Brutal.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">So why does Florida State have so far to climb still?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">Mike Norvell.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">As I had often opined in the past, Pate agrees that FSU&#8217;s aggressive overreliance on the transfer portal following striking (fool&#8217;s) gold in 2022 and 2023 may have doomed the rest of Norvell&#8217;s tenure in the state&#8217;s capitol.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">For everyone <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/what-curt-cignetti-did-not-teach-us-about-building-program\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">who points to guys like Curt Cignietti<\/a> and, to a lesser extent, Lane Kiffin, as shining examples of how to build a championship roster through the transfer portal, Mike Norvell is the example on the other end of the spectrum.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/how-fsu-let-one-magical-season-set-program-back-another-five-years\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">READ: How FSU Let One Magical Season Set Their Program Back Another Five Years<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">&#8220;I don&#8217;t know how to sell you on this football team,&#8221; explains Pate.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">&#8220;If I were to look at this roster, I&#8217;ll give you Deuce Robinson. Outside of him, how many top-ten players at their position exist on this roster? I would say not many.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">It&#8217;s a harsh critique, but a fair one.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">No one is going to confuse this Florida State roster for the 2019 LSU Tigers, so the strategy as a fan of the program might be to punt on 2026 and pray the team does badly enough that you can FINALLY <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/fsu-opts-keep-coach-mike-norvell-seminole-fans-react-accordingly\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">rid yourselves of that awful Mike Norvell contract<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:left;\">That may not be what Noles fans want to hear right now, but it&#8217;s the truth.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"&#8220;I think they&#8217;ve got to improve to be mediocre right now.&#8221; &#8211; Josh Pate PublishedApril 17, 2026 5:20&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":236248,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[28,30,29],"class_list":{"0":"post-236247","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-florida","8":"tag-florida","9":"tag-florida-headlines","10":"tag-florida-news"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236247","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=236247"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/236247\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/236248"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=236247"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=236247"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=236247"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}