{"id":40658,"date":"2025-11-10T10:09:06","date_gmt":"2025-11-10T10:09:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/40658\/"},"modified":"2025-11-10T10:09:06","modified_gmt":"2025-11-10T10:09:06","slug":"josh-pate-questions-why-florida-state-hasnt-pulled-trigger-on-mike-norvell-firing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/40658\/","title":{"rendered":"Josh Pate questions why Florida State hasn\u2019t pulled trigger on Mike Norvell firing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/1762769346_824_image\" alt=\"https:\/\/img.particlenews.com\/image.php?url=3TY5FM_16QIgxKM00\" width=\"800\" height=\"420\"\/>Alicia Devine\/Tallahassee Democrat \/ USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images<\/p>\n<p>Things look bleak for the future of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.on3.com\/rivals\/coach\/mike-norvell-131695\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mike Norvell<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.on3.com\/teams\/florida-state-seminoles\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Florida State<\/a>. The Seminoles are just 4-5 (1-5 ACC) and coming off of a loss to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.on3.com\/teams\/clemson-tigers\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Clemson<\/a> this past week that many thought would be the end of Norvell\u2019s tenure in Tallahassee.<\/p>\n<p>However, Sunday came and went without the school making a move. College football analyst Josh Pate dissected the situation on Josh Pate\u2019s College Football Show.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI heavily leaned toward the idea that this thing was gonna happen this morning,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=nh5O2QNqr_E\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">he said<\/a>. \u201cSo I keep coming back to the same thing and I think a lot of Florida State fans are the same way: what are we waiting on? If it\u2019s going to happen, if it\u2019s a forgone conclusion, if the buyout money doesn\u2019t really change all that much if we wait til the end of the season versus if we do it now, and if other programs are doing it and getting a head start on us, what are we waiting on? My answer is I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI want to establish one more time that I don\u2019t yell for dudes to get fired. I\u2019m not yelling for Mike to get fired. My opinion doesn\u2019t matter here. The opinion of the people who do matter \u2014 big money people, the administrative types, the athletic director at Florida State \u2014 all seem to be that he is gonna get fired. So if he\u2019s gonna be fired eventually, why aren\u2019t you doing it immediately?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Norvell is in his sixth season at Florida State with a 37-31 overall record in that span. However, outside of the 2022 and 2023 seasons where he went a combined 23-4, his team has had losing records every other season.<\/p>\n<p>Pate continued to question why Florida State hasn\u2019t made the move yet when it seems like its mind is made up. He also argued that the Seminoles are only falling behind in the coaching search by doing so.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s not to save money and from the sound of things it\u2019s not for you to come up with the money,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=nh5O2QNqr_E\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">he said<\/a>. \u201cIt sounded like if they needed the money today, they\u2019d have the money today. If that\u2019s not true and they\u2019re trying to come up with the money, and by the way, they need about $60 million to fire him, does that mean there are some people who are holdouts on Mike Norvell who you think are gonna be convinced that he needs to be let go by the end of the year but they\u2019re not convinced yet? I\u2019m not sure if you\u2019re not already convinced what a few more losses are gonna do to convince you.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t tell people how to spend their tens of million of dollars. I just find it very peculiar that anyone with a reasonable enough intelligence to acquire a net worth of that size is ignorant enough to think the outcome of four quarters against NC State could fundamentally change your opinion on whether or not to pay a guy $60 million to not coach for you anymore. If you think it\u2019s crazy to pay a guy not to coach for you and you\u2019re not gonna do it no matter what, OK. That doesn\u2019t seem to be the score around there right now. The way it sounds is we\u2019ve either got the money already and we\u2019re just waiting for the right time, which makes no sense, or we\u2019ve still got to get a few people on board. If they\u2019re not already on board, how are you gonna get them on board?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Pate through out another theory that athletic director Michael Alford wanted to make good on a promise to wait until the end of the season before making a decision to Norvell. However, given that the coach also would have to find a new job if he is let go, he doesn\u2019t see how waiting is helping either side.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo there\u2019s another school of thought around there that is the athletic director came out and kind of indicated that they were going to see it through until the end of the year a few weeks ago, so he wants to be a man of his word,\u201d he said. \u201cI\u2019m all for being a man of your word. That\u2019s why am not saying things that you have no business ever fulfilling on. You had no business giving him the vote of confidence. The season was already down the drain and you were highly likely to find yourself in this position where you need to make a move on a guy. So there\u2019s another school of thought around there that is they do have the money, they are on borrowed time because every day they wait to do the inevitable is a day that other programs that have pulled the trigger get that much further ahead of them down the road of their coaching searches. Also, it wastes time that Mike Norvell could be spending on his own search. Because there\u2019s a duty to mitigate in his contract. Which, for those of you who don\u2019t speak lawyer means when Mike gets fired he has a duty to go look for another job. Mike Norvell will get another job.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u2026He\u2019s not going anywhere as long as he\u2019s your head coach is the point. Some of these programs out there that are gonna end up hiring the G5 coaches which would vacate a G5 spot, they\u2019re not waiting until December. A lot of these deals are being locked up behind the scenes right now. They may not be announced until December, but some of these G5 openings, they\u2019re gonna know they have openings well before December. Which means if your guy\u2019s gonna be a candidate for those jobs and the salary they\u2019re gonna pay your guy offsets the amount of buyout money you have to pay him, then you want him free as early as possible to go seek out future employment. Am I missing anything here?\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Alicia Devine\/Tallahassee Democrat \/ USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images Things look bleak for the future of Mike&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":40659,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[749,27111,266,748,3836,232,234,233],"class_list":["post-40658","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-tallahassee","tag-breaking-news","tag-josh-pate-questions-why-florida-state-hasnt-pulled-trigger-on-mike-norvell-firing","tag-local-news","tag-newsbreak","tag-on3-com","tag-tallahassee","tag-tallahassee-headlines","tag-tallahassee-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40658","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40658"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40658\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/40659"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40658"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40658"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40658"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}