{"id":50821,"date":"2025-11-18T04:09:07","date_gmt":"2025-11-18T04:09:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/50821\/"},"modified":"2025-11-18T04:09:07","modified_gmt":"2025-11-18T04:09:07","slug":"first-amendment-experts-question-decision-to-remove-woman-from-lee-county-commission-meeting-investigations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/50821\/","title":{"rendered":"First Amendment experts question decision to remove woman from Lee County Commission meeting | Investigations"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>LEE COUNTY, Fla. \u2014 A Lee County woman was removed from a county commission meeting earlier this month, sparking questions about the fairness of her removal.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>On Nov. 4., Marsha Ellis, a Lee County resident, stepped up to the podium during public comments at the Lee County Commission meeting to address changes to the county&#8217;s animal control ordinance.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m speaking on\u00a0item number seven today, which is to direct the public hearing repealing and replacing the animal control ordinance ,&#8221; Ellis said during public comment.<\/p>\n<p>She said she was initially excited to share her ideas with commissioners.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I was very optimistic going there that day,&#8221; Ellis said in an interview six days after the meeting.<\/p>\n<p>But \u00a0shows 36 seconds into her three-minute allotted time, District One Commissioner and Chairman Kevin Ruane interrupted her.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;County\u00a0attorney, can I interrupt for a second?&#8221; Ruane said during the meeting. &#8220;Your comments about our public hearing date, nothing about the item itself. We&#8217;ll have that at the next meeting. You can give all the comments you want.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ellis said she believes the changes to the animal control ordinance do not reflect public concerns shared with commissioners during prior meetings.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What is being proposed is anything but comprehensive, and it fails to address the many concerns brought before this body regarding animal control,&#8221; Ellis said.<\/p>\n<p>Ellis says she attempted to redirect her comments.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So, sir, I am asking that this item be tabled and it not be scheduled for public hearing so that the public can be involved,&#8221; Ellis said during the meeting. &#8220;So, I&#8217;m asking for this to be tabled.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Before she could finish, video shows deputies escorting Ellis out of the meeting.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry but think I have a right to ask for the item to be tabled as part of the public hearing, because the public and the folks would like to-,&#8221; Ellis said before being escorted away from the microphone.<\/p>\n<p>                        <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAQAAAADCAQAAAAe\/WZNAAAAEElEQVR42mM8U88ABowYDABAxQPltt5zqAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg==\" alt=\"Marsha Ellis\" class=\"img-responsive lazyload full default\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" data- data-\/><\/p>\n<p>Ellis says the animal control\u00a0ordinance wasn&#8217;t the only item she wanted to speak on.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I was very upset because I wanted to comment at the end\u00a0of the meeting about conservation lands and citizen participation, and I was not allowed to give comment about that,&#8221; Ellis said.<\/p>\n<p>Court records show Ellis&#8217;s removal came nine days after she and her neighbors won a separate legal challenge against the county over rezoning land for a future sewage plant.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I felt like, quite honestly, that it was because of the topic, and because of the retaliation regarding the judicial ruling,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>According to \u00a0on decorum during county commission meetings, &#8220;Any person who becomes disorderly or fails to confine remarks to the identified subject shall be cautioned by the chair and given the opportunity to conclude remarks in a decorous manner.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ellis says she was not given that chance.<\/p>\n<p>WINK Investigates emailed every commissioner and the county attorney for an interview twice.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>District 2 Commissioner and Vice Chairman Cecil Pendergrass&#8217;s assistant was the only one to respond.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The commissioner has a full schedule today, but should anything change he will follow up accordingly,&#8221; Pendergrass&#8217;s Executive Assistant Christine Birnbaum said in an email.<\/p>\n<p>First Amendment experts who reviewed the video and the county&#8217;s decorum rules say the situation could have been handled differently.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s clearly not a situation where I think she was absolutely disruptive and kept the meeting from ever proceeding. I think there&#8217;s enough there that says they could have let her talk,&#8221; Kevin Goldberg, a First Amendment expert at the Freedom Forum, said.\u00a0 &#8220;They chose not to.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Aaron Terr with the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression said in an email he believes commissioners had security escort Ellis out of the meeting before she was given a chance to redirect her comments.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The First Amendment allows government bodies to require that public comments relate to agenda items, but such a rule must actually exist and it must clearly define what counts as &#8216;relevant,'&#8221; Terr said in a statement. &#8220;Officials also must enforce the rule reasonably and not take an overly narrow view of relevance. Even a constitutional rule can&#8217;t be invoked as a pretext to shut down a speaker for being critical or &#8216;disrespectful.&#8217; That would violate the First Amendment&#8217;s bar on viewpoint discrimination. Also, the speaker appeared to try to redirect her comment after being warned that it was off-topic, but the commissioner summoned law enforcement before giving her a chance to do so. It&#8217;s far from clear that arguing an ordinance should be tabled is irrelevant to the topic of scheduling a public hearing on it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ellis says she just wants to know the public won&#8217;t be silenced by officials when they have a concern.<\/p>\n<p>WINK News has been emailing the commissioners since Friday and continues to push for a response.<\/p>\n<p>We will update you on-air and online as we learn more.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"LEE COUNTY, Fla. \u2014 A Lee County woman was removed from a county commission meeting earlier this month,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":50822,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[209,211,210,356],"class_list":["post-50821","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-cape-coral","tag-cape-coral","tag-cape-coral-headlines","tag-cape-coral-news","tag-lee-county"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50821","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=50821"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50821\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/50822"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=50821"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=50821"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-fl\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=50821"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}