{"id":12996,"date":"2025-10-23T04:56:25","date_gmt":"2025-10-23T04:56:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/12996\/"},"modified":"2025-10-23T04:56:25","modified_gmt":"2025-10-23T04:56:25","slug":"why-cant-people-pronounce-zohran-mamdani","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/12996\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Can\u2019t People Pronounce \u2018Zohran Mamdani\u2019?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">It was more than an hour into last week\u2019s critical three-way debate for mayor of New York City, and somehow, former Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo had yet to say the name of the race\u2019s front-runner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">He called him \u201cthe assemblyman\u201d and a miniature version of former Mayor Bill de Blasio. But he shied away from saying a name that he had repeatedly butchered on the campaign trail.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMr.\u00a0Mandani\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Andrew Cuomo in a campaign video.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">And on the debate stage.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMr.\u00a0Mandami\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Andrew Cuomo during a Democratic primary debate in June.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">His pronunciation was so notably off that, during a Democratic primary debate in June, the assemblyman himself, Zohran Mamdani, called him out on it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cM-A-M-D-A-N-I\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Zohran Mamdani during the same debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Cuomo is not alone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">For various reasons, legitimate and perhaps otherwise, Mr. Mamdani\u2019s first and last name have become the subject of rather adventurous, even creative, displays of linguistic fumbling.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Curtis Sliwa, the Republican candidate, struggled with his name at the first debate of the general election last week, calling him \u201cZor-han.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZorhan\u00a0Mandami\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Curtis Sliwa in the first general election debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Letitia James, the New York state attorney general and a key political ally, botched his name at a major campaign rally in Washington Heights this month, enthusiastically shouting \u201cMandami\u201d as he came onstage.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZohran\u00a0Mandami\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Letitia James at a Mamdani campaign rally.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">For Mr. Mamdani, having his name botched is not new. He said in an interview that mispronunciations were common growing up as an immigrant in Manhattan.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cIt happened quite a lot,\u201d he said. \u201cBut frankly, I don\u2019t begrudge anyone who tries and gets it wrong. The effort means everything to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Asked about any mnemonic tricks he recommends to help people pronounce it, Mr. Mamdani laughed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cIt\u2019s pretty phonetic honestly,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZohran\u00a0Mamdani\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Zohran Mamdani at a debate during the primary.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Mamdani, who is running to become the city\u2019s first Muslim mayor, said that some people like Mr. Cuomo were intentionally mispronouncing his name or refusing to make an effort to say it correctly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cThose who go out of their way to mispronounce it \u2014 that\u2019s not a mistake, that\u2019s a message,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">His supporters have embraced the issue as a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@astorwalk\/video\/7519861905561849119?lang=en\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">rallying cry against Mr. Cuomo<\/a>, turning the audio clip of Mr. Mamdani correcting him into a viral song online. Mr. Mamdani also said that his mother has started to sign emails with \u201cMomdani\u201d \u2014 a nod to her pride in being his mother that might also help with the pronunciation. <\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. de Blasio, the former mayor, is another Mamdani ally who admitted that he had stumbled over his name.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZorhan\u00a0Mamdani\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cI think I\u2019m in the ballpark now, but it did take me a while,\u201d Mr. de Blasio said, adding: \u201cI think it\u2019s just to the American English ear, the construct is a little counterintuitive. It takes some practice to get the cadence of it right.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Sliwa said in an interview that he was trying to do better: \u201cIt\u2019ll take time. It\u2019s not intentional.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Sliwa, whose last name is pronounced SLEE-WUH, said he understood Mr. Mamdani\u2019s pain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cOut of 46 years that I\u2019ve been the guy who founded the Guardian Angels, I\u2019d say about 33 years of that time, my name was constantly mispronounced,\u201d he said. \u201cI don\u2019t take offense to it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">President Trump\u2019s failed efforts to say Mr. Mamdani\u2019s name might be viewed less benevolently, since the president has repeatedly attacked the candidate and threatened to arrest him.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMandami\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">President Donald J. Trump speaking to reporters on Air Force One this week.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">His press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, used an even more outlandish pronunciation, merging parts of his first and last name.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZamdami\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Karoline Leavitt at a press briefing in July.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">While some pronunciation mistakes might be deliberate, several linguistics experts told The New York Times that both Mr. Mamdani\u2019s first and last name feature letter arrangements and vowel sounds that are not common in English, and it was not a surprise that some people struggled with them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cLanguages differ from one another as to what sequences of sounds are frequent, or even possible to pronounce, and they also differ as to what spellings or letters are associated with what pronunciations,\u201d said Gillian Gallagher, a professor of linguistics at New York University.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">There are hundreds more words in English with the sequence \u201cnd\u201d than with \u201cmd,\u201d Ms. Gallagher said, adding that these clusters of consonants can lead to speech processes that result in mistakes. One, known as assimilation, involves morphing the second \u201cM\u201d in Mr. Mamdani\u2019s last name into an \u201cN,\u201d making it sound like \u201cMandani.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Another, known as substitution, leads speakers to replace the \u201cN\u201d in Mamdani with another \u201cM.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZohran\u00a0Mamdami\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Whoopi Goldberg, the television host, on \u201cThe View.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Those patterns of speech can be difficult to avoid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cMamdani has an \u2018M\u2019 next to a \u2018D\u2019, and that\u2019s hard for English speakers,\u201d said Professor Laurel MacKenzie, a co-director of the NYU Sociolinguistics Lab.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cOur tongues are just not used to making that specific sequence of sounds.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">The softer \u201cAhn\u201d sound in both Mr. Mamdani\u2019s first and last name can also be challenging. Frequently, \u201cZohran\u201d has been pronounced with a screeching \u201cZohr-ANNE.\u201d That miscue is the result of vowels being pronounced differently in Americanized English, said Suzanne van der Feest, an associate research professor at the Graduate Center at the City University of New York.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZohr-ANNE\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Carl Heastie, speaker of the New York State Assembly, at an event where he endorsed Mr. Mamdani.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cThat is somebody who speaks mainly English and is just making it into American English vowels,\u201d Ms. van der Feest said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cIt\u2019s an example of how spelling is interfering with how someone\u2019s name is pronounced.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">John Samuelsen, the international president of the Transport Workers Union, said his pronunciation of Mr. Mamdani\u2019s first name feels like a \u201cvery common outer-borough way of pronouncing Zohran.\u201d He also noted that he avoids saying Mr. Mamdani\u2019s last name, because \u201cI\u2019m afraid I\u2019m going to mess it up.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZohr-ANNE\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">John Samuelsen at a Mamdani campaign rally.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Mamdani said he once visited a mosque in Manhattan for Friday prayers during the campaign and asked the group to raise their hand if they had ever heard someone consistently mispronounce their name. Most people in the room raised their hands.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cIt\u2019s something countless immigrants have experienced,\u201d he said. \u201cWhen people mock or intentionally distort someone\u2019s name, it\u2019s a way of saying someone doesn\u2019t belong here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Mamdani said he took pride in his name. His mother picked his first name, which means \u201cthe first star in the sky.\u201d His father picked his middle name, Kwame, to honor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/1957\/03\/06\/archives\/independence-leader-man-in-the-news.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Kwame Nkrumah<\/a>, the first president of Ghana, who fought for independence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cAndrew Cuomo never struggles with names like John Catsimatidis,\u201d Mr. Mamdani said in reference to the Greek billionaire grocer. \u201cBut somehow Mamdani is too difficult. It\u2019s an issue of prejudice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Others have expressed frustration over Mr. Cuomo\u2019s errors, including the journalist Anand Giridharadas, who <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/atrupar\/status\/1980250483907326110\" rel=\"nofollow\">corrected Mr. Cuomo on MSNBC this week<\/a>: \u201cThis is a very big, diverse city you want to lead. We should get the names right.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Mr. Cuomo sometimes gets it right.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cZohran\u00a0Mamdani\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"bio svelte-g5tdqj\">Andrew Cuomo in a video posted to his campaign\u2019s TikTok account.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Rich Azzopardi, a spokesman for Mr. Cuomo, said that the former governor\u2019s name was often botched, too. Indeed, Como, like the Italian lake, is a common mispronunciation for Cuomo, which is pronounced KWO-MO.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cIt\u2019s unintentional and he should get over it \u2014 people mangle \u2018Cuomo\u2019 all the time and you don\u2019t hear us whine about it,\u201d Mr. Azzopardi said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">Ms. MacKenzie and others were quick to note, though, that pronouncing difficult names correctly is not an insurmountable challenge. Practice and a concerted effort to ask people how they pronounce their names helps. That\u2019s particularly the case in New York City, with such a rich array of immigrant communities from across the world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cWe all learned how to say \u2018Daenerys Targaryen\u2019 when we were all into \u2018Game of Thrones,\u2019\u201d Ms. MacKenzie said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-19nwvmi\">\u201cWe can learn hard names. We can do it. We can figure out how the spellings map to the sounds. We can all get there. 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