{"id":21470,"date":"2025-10-29T16:50:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-29T16:50:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/21470\/"},"modified":"2025-10-29T16:50:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-29T16:50:08","slug":"mamdani-mum-as-skepticism-mounts-over-his-plan-for-free-buses-in-nyc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/21470\/","title":{"rendered":"Mamdani mum as skepticism mounts over his plan for free buses in NYC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As 2025 mayoral race frontrunner Zohran Mamdani champions his ambitious proposal for a free bus system across NYC, a growing number of skeptics and supporters are voicing their thoughts over the plan\u2019s feasibility, funding and potential impact.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>More than 1 million New Yorkers ride MTA buses each day. While the idea of fare-free buses has attracted enthusiasm from many of these commuters, critics are raising red flags about the practicalities of implementing the idea.<\/p>\n<p>While the Democratic candidate did not respond to multiple requests for comment from amNewYork asking about his research behind fare-free buses, he has stated that the plan would make buses go faster. No one would have to pay when they board.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUnlike on the subway, when you pay your fare, you\u2019re doing so on the bus,\u201d Mamdani said during a recent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Nau5iqVfikA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">WNBC<\/a> segment. \u201cThe act of doing so or not doing so, it impedes and impacts the ability of the bus to actually operate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It is unclear how he would make the buses free \u2014 or if he consulted transit groups or economic experts. But he has not been shy about wanting to raise taxes on corporations and \u201cthe wealthiest\u201d New Yorkers.<\/p>\n<p>A 2023 study by the city\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ibo.nyc.ny.us\/iboreports\/estimated-cost-of-free-bus-fares-letter-february-2023.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Independent Budget Office (IBO)<\/a> found that fare-free buses in New York City would likely cost at least $652 million a year.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mamdani\u2019s revenue plan will raise the corporate tax rate to match New Jersey\u2019s 11.5%, bringing in $5 billion, according to his campaign <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zohranfornyc.com\/platform\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">website<\/a>. New Yorkers earning more than $1 million annually would be taxed a flat 2%, if he wins the mayoralship. <\/p>\n<p>Any tax increase, however, would require state legislative approval, which could be challenging, given that Gov. Kathy Hochul and all state legislators are up for re-election in 2026. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/09\/14\/opinion\/hochul-endorsement-mamdani.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Hochul has already ruled out tax increases.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The union weighs in<\/p>\n<p>Another proponent of free buses is comes from an unlikely source: the union.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>John Samuelsen, president of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twu.org\/leadership\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Transport Workers Union International<\/a>, has appeared in reports supporting the Mamdani bus plan. He explained to amNewYork that the proposal would decrease assaults on bus drivers, while also providing a societal service.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNothing is free in life, so we\u2019re not talking about free buses,\u201d he said. \u201cWe\u2019re talking about building the cost of the buses into the wider tax bases. Just like we don\u2019t pay for sanitation at the point of service.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He also said keeping bus drivers apart from fare boxes is \u201cextremely effective\u201d in reducing assaults on bus drivers, as demonstrated in the 2023-2024 free bus pilot program.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn the issue of safety, it is the massive one point that everyone can agree on that as soon as the bus operator is separated from the payment medium, the assaults plummet,\u201d he explained.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Can the mayor instantly make buses free? Not really.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, at the forefront of the issue is whether the mayor of NYC has the authority to implement such a plan over the state-run MTA. Civics experts say it is not so much about authority as it is about influence and actually having the mechanisms in place to bring the idea to fruition.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The NYC mayor can appoint four people to the MTA board, all of whom represent NYC. But those four appointees are far from the majority of the 23-member board. While they have some say in decisions, in order for the city to achieve free buses, it needs gubernatorial support.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe MTA board is essentially controlled by the governor. You really need the governor on board,\u201d said Professor Stephen Louis of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nyls.edu\/faculty\/stephen-louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">New York Law School\u2019s Center for New York City and State Law<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The MTA, an agency that has borrowed money, also relies on fares for funding. If the state gives a thumbs down to free buses, it is possible for the city to foot the bill, as was the case with the 7 train extension to Hudson Yards in 2015.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe MTA did it, but the city paid for it,\u201d Louis explained. \u201cSo, it\u2019s possible, if the state isn\u2019t willing to do this or come up with the money, the city could say, \u2018Look, we will pay whatever the MTA pays in bus fares.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In this scenario, the MTA would have an agreement in place with the city. As another less-likely alternative, Louis explained, the city would take over running the buses.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe buses run on city streets,\u201d the professor said. \u201cSo you can say there is a certain logic that buses could be run by the city. But then, that\u2019s even more complicated because you\u2019d have the workforce that would now be a city responsibility. And the city would not just pay for it, but operate it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Do free buses actually move more slowly?<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-137702836\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2024-09-03-160338.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"625\" title=\"NYC Mayor's Race: Mamdani mum on how to pay for free buses in NYC as skepticism mounts 2\"  \/>Some lawmakers blasted the MTA when it ended its yearlong free bus pilot.MTA<\/p>\n<p>Brian Fritsch, associate director of the <a href=\"https:\/\/pcac.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Permanent Citizens Advisory Committee (PCAC) to the MTA<\/a>, echoed concerns about extra costs and operations. Fritsch, who worked on the expansion of Pre-K under former mayor Bill de Blasio \u2014 an issue that sparked similar questions about costs \u2014 explained that a free bus network in NYC is possible, but there are other factors to consider.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re going to have to hire a lot of new bus drivers, you\u2019re going to have to get new rolling stock, and either expand or secure new depot space around the city, which is always challenging, but it\u2019s doable,\u201d he explained.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Last year, the MTA announced the results of its year-long <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amny.com\/nyc-transit\/lawmakers-mta-fare-free-bus-pilot-criticism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">pilot program<\/a> that put one free bus route in each borough of NYC. Mamdani, as a member of the state Assembly, helped secure funding for the pilot program in the state budget.<\/p>\n<p>The program concluded with the MTA\u2019s finding that ridership increased on the free routes, and the foregone revenue and related costs totaled more than $12 million over the nine-month pilot period.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It was not fun for riders, either. The free buses made more stops than ones that required payment.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe numbers showed that it slowed down buses a bit,\u201d Fritsch said. \u201cI think in part because the buses were making more stops than they would otherwise. The MTA felt that people were taking it a lot for shorter stops.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Christopher Ball, an associate professor of economics at<a href=\"https:\/\/www.qu.edu\/faculty-and-staff\/christopher-ball\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\"> Quinnipiac University<\/a> in Connecticut, said free buses are economically possible, but echoed Fritsch\u2019s point about slowing down the buses.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it is feasible, whereas <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amny.com\/politics\/grocery-prices-nyc-mayor-candidates-ideas\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Mamdani\u2019s grocery store plan<\/a> might seem great in the beginning but run into tons of problems. This, at least, you could do,\u201d Ball said. \u201cAlthough I do not think it will help in the ways he wants it to help.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He explained that making the buses fare-free \u201cmakes no sense\u201d if the reason for doing so is to make the buses run faster, which is a key reason why Mamdani proposed the idea.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you provide something for free, you\u2019re just going to get more lines and crowds of people using it,\u201d Ball said. \u201cUsage will go way up, and it is not clear at all that it speeds things up.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The professor also questioned why the candidate would want to commit to paying a significant amount of money each year to make buses faster when improvements could be made in a one-time deal.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnother thing you can do is spend a few hundred million dollars once, and maybe add ticket booths in the back,\u201d Ball described as an example. \u201cIf your goal is to speed buses up, and you really want to spend a few hundred million dollars, you can do that once and upgrade them or have some modifications.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Fritsch at PCAC said it is impossible for him to be for or against fare-free buses without seeing a comprehensive plan in place. Whatever the election brings to NYC, PCAC wants the critical Fair Fares program to stay in place. The discount program provides a critical half-price fare on subways and buses for eligible New Yorkers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s another big question mark for us. What is the plan on Fair Fares? We\u2019d still like to see it expand considerably, possibly to the railroads and express buses, on top of subways and buses,\u201d Fritsch said. \u201cWe have a lot of questions on how that would work in concert with [free buses].\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ridersalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Riders Alliance<\/a>, another major transit advocacy group in NYC, stressed that free buses would provide a significant savings for a majority of riders, and economic effect that would trickle through the city.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA free bus network wouldn\u2019t crowd the service by pulling riders from paid routes to free ones because the fare would be eliminated across all routes,\u201d Danny Pearlstein, policy and communications director at the alliance, said. \u201cAt the end of the day, if more riders get on board because the bus is free, the added economic activity from the new travel would multiply positively across the city.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What do New Yorkers say?<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, New Yorkers both support and oppose a fare-free bus system. Jennifer, a New Yorker from Manhattan, said only those in need financially should be entitled to free buses.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHow does he plan on paying for this? It\u2019s absurd for buses to be free for everyone,\u201d she said. \u201cIf people need financial help then there should be a mechanism to assist them.\u00a0 Buses should not be free for people who can afford them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But Mike, a Queens resident who usually drives or uses subways, said MTA buses should be free. He said he would be more likely to use them if the fare was not required.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI pay enough in taxes,\u201d he said. \u201cThey should be free.\u201d\n<\/p>\n<p>Jill, from the Upper West Side, said free buses are not needed; passengers need to pay their fare, she explained.\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat\u2019s needed is enforcement of fares,\u201d she said. \u201cThe MTA loses a billion a year. That needs to be recouped so we can get back to pre-de Blasio days, when public transportation was safe and relatively clean.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The MTA agreed with others interviewed by amNewYork that Mamdani\u2019s proposal would require a deeper look.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe are gratified that access to transit is at the front and center of this campaign \u2013 right where it belongs. With any major change, you take a hard look,\u201d John McCarthy, MTA\u2019s chief of policy and external relations, said. \u201cFor example, why is congestion pricing successful? Because we took the time to study its benefits and impacts. By the time the first camera turned on, we had understood \u2013 and prepared for \u2013 every potential impact of the policy. That\u2019s how we deliver on major changes. This proposal would demand the same kind of rigorous analysis, and we\u2019d start by putting it through its paces.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"As 2025 mayoral race frontrunner Zohran Mamdani champions his ambitious proposal for a free bus system across NYC,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":21471,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[4711,314,14324,14325,9,11,10,12889,14326,14327,14328,142,14329],"class_list":["post-21470","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-new-york","tag-2025-nyc-mayoral-candidates","tag-assembly-member-zohran-mamdani","tag-fare-free-bus-pilot","tag-mayors-race-in-nyc","tag-new-york","tag-new-york-headlines","tag-new-york-news","tag-new-york-law-school","tag-pcac","tag-quinnipiac-university","tag-riders-alliance","tag-transit","tag-twu-john-samuelsen"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21470","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21470"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21470\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/21471"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21470"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21470"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21470"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}