The first three games for the Baltimore Orioles in the Bronx against the first-place New York Yankees showed two franchises headed in two very different directions. Luke Jones and Nestor discuss the disgust at brand of Orioles baseball played in The Big Apple over the weekend and how this depleted roster and lineup continue to disappoint across the diamond and into The Warehouse.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Orioles\u2019 disappointing performance in New York, highlighting their 3-0 series loss to the Yankees. They noted the poor performance of key players like Gunnar Henderson (.275 OBP) and Pete Alonso (sub-700 OPS), and the struggles of the starting rotation, including Kyle Bradish and Trey Gibson. They also mentioned injuries to Ryan Helsley and Dean Kramer. Despite the team\u2019s $160 million offseason investments, they expressed concern about the overall direction and performance, questioning the organizational philosophy and player development. They concluded with a light-hearted discussion about attending a game in New York.<\/p>\n
[ ] @Nestor Aparicio \u2013 Host\/appear at Planet Fitness event as scheduled (appearance planned this week \/ on the 7th).<\/p>\n
[ ] @Nestor Aparicio \u2013 Host\/appear at Fayette Lee\u2019s and Lexington Market event scheduled for the 13th (return appearance).<\/p>\n
[ ] @Nestor Aparicio \u2013 Appear at The Fishmonger\u2019s Daughter (planned upcoming appearance after market events).<\/p>\n
[ ] @Nestor Aparicio \u2013 Coordinate a possible trip to New York for a Yankees game (invite\/plan to go together; call to confirm participants).<\/p>\n
[ ] Do a sports radio segment Monday morning (covering recent team events\/discussion).<\/p>\n
[ ] Attend the ballpark over the upcoming weekend (will be at the ballpark during the weekend series).<\/p>\n
Orioles\u2019 Performance and Attendance Plans<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio discusses the Orioles\u2019 recent performance, mentioning their upcoming events and sponsors.<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke Jones joke about attending a game in New York, with Nestor expressing enthusiasm and Luke being hesitant.<\/p>\n
Nestor recalls a flippant comment he made to Luke about attending a game in New York, which Luke found amusing.<\/p>\n
Luke admits to not watching the game initially but tuning in after receiving a text from Nestor about the Orioles\u2019 early deficit.<\/p>\n
Orioles\u2019 Struggles and Player Performance<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke discuss the Orioles\u2019 poor performance over the weekend, with Nestor expressing frustration.<\/p>\n
Luke mentions that Trey Gibson gave the best start of the weekend, but Nestor is skeptical due to Gibson\u2019s experience.<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke debate the performance of various players, including Taylor Ward, Jeremiah Jackson, and Pete Alonso.<\/p>\n
Luke highlights the lack of consistent performance from key players like Gunnar Henderson and Adley Rutschman.<\/p>\n
Injuries and Rotation Issues<\/p>\n
Luke lists the numerous injuries affecting the Orioles\u2019 rotation, including Kyle Bradish, Trevor Rogers, and Dean Kramer.<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke discuss the impact of these injuries on the team\u2019s overall performance and the lack of depth in the rotation.<\/p>\n
Luke mentions the poor performance of Brandon Young and Kade Povich, who have struggled in recent starts.<\/p>\n
Nestor expresses concern about the team\u2019s overall composition and the lack of quality players in key positions.<\/p>\n
Defensive and Bullpen Issues<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke discuss the Orioles\u2019 poor defensive play, with Nestor expressing frustration over routine plays being made difficult.<\/p>\n
Luke mentions the bullpen\u2019s increased workload due to starters not going deep into games.<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke discuss the potential impact of Ryan Helsley\u2019s injury on the bullpen\u2019s performance.<\/p>\n
Luke highlights the need for better defense and bullpen stability to improve the team\u2019s overall performance.<\/p>\n
Managerial and Organizational Responsibility<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke debate the responsibility for the team\u2019s struggles, with Nestor pointing to managerial decisions and Luke questioning the organizational philosophy.<\/p>\n
Luke mentions the importance of player development and the need for better injury management.<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke discuss the potential need for organizational changes, including a new manager or front office leadership.<\/p>\n
Luke emphasizes the need for a fresh perspective and new leadership to address the team\u2019s ongoing issues.<\/p>\n
Future Outlook and Fan Engagement<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for the team to turn things around and the importance of fan engagement.<\/p>\n
Luke mentions the need for the team to start strong and build momentum to regain fan support.<\/p>\n
Nestor expresses frustration over the team\u2019s current state and the lack of progress despite new management and players.<\/p>\n
Luke highlights the importance of player performance and organizational changes to improve the team\u2019s overall outlook.<\/p>\n
Personal Reflections and Final Thoughts<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke reflect on their personal experiences and frustrations with the team\u2019s performance.<\/p>\n
Nestor shares a story about attending a game with his wife and the disappointment of watching the team lose.<\/p>\n
Luke mentions his excitement about watching the Sixers play the Knicks instead of attending an Orioles game.<\/p>\n
Nestor and Luke joke about attending a game in New York and the potential for a fun experience despite the team\u2019s struggles.<\/p>\n
SUMMARY KEYWORDS<\/p>\n
Orioles baseball, New York series, player performance, injuries, bullpen issues, defensive struggles, Mike Elias, organizational philosophy, fan engagement, talent evaluation, managerial decisions, team leadership, future outlook, ticket sales, fan experience.<\/p>\n
SPEAKERS<\/p>\n
Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio, <\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 00:01<\/p>\n
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 we were Baltimore, positive we we used to just do all sports around here. Now we do a lot of sports. I got my sport on over the weekend, working on all things we did at Pizza John\u2019s this week, we\u2019ll be at Planet Fitness this week, on the seventh, on the 13th, we\u2019re gonna be back at Fayette Lee\u2019s and Lexington market, and then to the fishmonger\u2019s daughter. All are brought to my friends at the Maryland lottery, GBMC and Farnham and Dermer. They are the comfort guys. I\u2019m wearing that. And I was giving these away freely at Pizza John\u2019s in Essex on Friday. I got a little flippant with Luke earlier, and I said, Look, man, if there\u2019s a sweep on Monday or a chance of a sweep on Monday, we should get out of bed. We should get on the Peter Pan bus at 430 or 520 get up to New York. Eight, 839, o\u2019clock, going to be 71 degrees in New York, in the Bronx, going for the sweep, of course, take our brooms. And Luke didn\u2019t want any part of this. I mean, Luke\u2019s you\u2019re like the brother, like your sister\u2019s the small town girl living in a lonely world. You\u2019re a small town boy like you don\u2019t want to go to the big city. You couldn\u2019t handle me in Manhattan on a 78 degree Tuesday after a sweep, lo and behold, kind of all went to hell, I think in the first inning on Friday night, didn\u2019t it, Luke, that\u2019s pretty much, yeah, from there.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 01:31<\/p>\n
Well, I mean, full disclosure, you texted me after they were down early on Friday night, and I\u2019ll openly admit I was not watching the game at the time. I was going to tune in, I was hanging out with the family, and I was going to put it on my phone, and I got your text, and then I put the game one right after that, and I see how it goes. I mean, just, what do you want me to say? I mean, they totally outclassed over the course of the weekend, and<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 01:55<\/p>\n
worst nightmare, kind of, sort of like, like in every conceivable category you measure it, especially that starting lineup on Sunday. I mean, great story, sweet kid, nice parents. I mean, I\u2019ll give you all that. But dude, you\u2019re rolling a double A pitcher in the Yankees, Trey<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 02:14<\/p>\n
Gibson. Trey Gibson gave them the best start they had over the weekend. I mean, I, I understand the point you\u2019re making, but<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 02:20<\/p>\n
sentiment, of all of it, well, you know, I\u2019m<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 02:22<\/p>\n
way more tired of the guys that are supposed to be is, is on the you know. And I know I just said is, is, but humor me, the guys that everyone you identify as someone who\u2019s supposed to be an is, how many of them are actually playing well this year? I mean, go down the list. Taylor Ward has been really good. Jeremiah Jackson, relative to expectations, he\u2019s been as good as what Jackson holiday probably would have been if you were healthy, right? At least to this point<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 02:51<\/p>\n
as Jackson holiday we leading the team in our bis, I\u2019d give a big thumbs up on that right now, right?<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 02:56<\/p>\n
So leoti Tavares has exceeded expectations. But who else Pete Alonso has finally, is finally starting to look like he\u2019s hitting more like what you expected, but had an awful first month. Gunner Henderson\u2019s hit some home runs, but he\u2019s got one of the highest strikeout rates in all of baseball. I mean, we\u2019ve talked about kauser, we\u2019ve talked about mayo. Jordan Westberg is hurt. Jackson holidays hurt. Adley right? I\u2019m sorry. I will, I will. Well, be a culpa here. Ali rutsman has been really good. Now. He missed 10 days, obviously, with the ankle, but Adley rutschman has been really good. If<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 03:37<\/p>\n
it a<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 03:38<\/p>\n
market bounced back for a one and it\u2019s been good, all of the physical issues that he clearly has had, that we haven\u2019t talked about on a day to day basis, he\u2019s all the way we do when another player gets hurt, when it\u2019s Ronnie Stanley, we talk about that leg that you know, that thing forever with rushman, whatever His things have been over the last two years. I don\u2019t it feels to me like he he had to have been hurt. That\u2019s all<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 04:07<\/p>\n
I hope I said for going on two years. I hope that was the case. And I don\u2019t mean that in terms of wishing physical struggles for him, but more so just in terms of what the heck happened to him. I don\u2019t think it was just that. We\u2019ve talked about this. I thought he got a little more full power happy in the first half of 2024 and then I think the problems really started after that, after he got off to a good start that year. But point is getting back to the general point here, not to get into the weeds. They have very few guys that are playing well right now. And I mean, that\u2019s just the offense, the rotation. I mean, Kyle Bradish with another poor start over the weekend. Trevor Rogers is on the i L. Dean Kramer is on the i l, Zach Eflin done for the year. Kade Povich came back and was awful on Friday night. Brandon young, since his. First, you know, where he looked good initially. Last start was awful against Houston. I<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 05:05<\/p>\n
don\u2019t know what Brandon young and Kate Poe, which, if you told me those cats are starting to Yankees, and<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 05:09<\/p>\n
that\u2019s part<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 05:09<\/p>\n
of the kid on Sunday. I mean, like, what should like, as comprised, as comprised, as comprised. What the hell whatever that was at third base, defensively as comprised. They\u2019re a bad baseball team if they have to play with what they have right now, the rest of the way with whatever it is, even on the best day, even if Alonso turns around and Henderson\u2019s final they\u2019re not very good. They\u2019re just not, I mean, all the way around, they\u2019re not very good if they\u2019re going to pitch with these pitchers, and have Jeremiah Jackson and the ward guy, and the Rodriguez is and no, no offense to Tavares, no offense to to blaze Alexander, but like, but you\u2019re, but you\u2019re, you know, fixating on the lesser players<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 06:00<\/p>\n
about the guys that are supposed to be good, I keep thinking they\u2019re gonna be good. Like, why? Why am I like? Trey Gibson competed. He was actually one of the few, and look, I\u2019m not, I\u2019m not going to do cartwheels about it or anything like that. It wasn\u2019t anything that special. But he turned in a better performance than Kate Povich, who has way more experience than him, and Kyle Bradish, who is supposed to be your one or your one a right? I mean, at some point in time, yes, I\u2019m in full, I understand the point you\u2019re making, but I mean, cutter Henderson\u2019s got a sub 300 on base percentage. Peter Alonso, only recently, now has an ops over 700 I mean, go on down the list the number of guys that are supposed to be major parts, important parts, of whatever this club was supposed to be this year aren\u2019t doing it. And I just look at this thing and I mean the word that I used late in Sunday\u2019s game on social media, just outclassed. They were completely outclassed over the course of the weekend. I mean, well,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 07:07<\/p>\n
they<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 07:07<\/p>\n
kicked the ball around like the bad news bears. They<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 07:10<\/p>\n
don\u2019t do anything Well, they didn\u2019t hit. They had three hits on Friday night. They had four hits on Saturday, they had some opportunities on Sunday, and they had three runs total. I mean, they\u2019re not doing anything Well, and, oh yeah, the bullpen. And we\u2019ve gotten this far into the conversation without even mentioning that Ryan Helsley is on the IL now, it sounds I got that text, bro. It does sound like the imaging, and everything suggests that they don\u2019t think this is a Zac Eflin situation, but it\u2019s certainly not good. And now you\u2019re seeing the bullpen as a result, I think, because of the starters not getting deep in the games, that\u2019s really starting to mount in terms of their workload. Well, double<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 07:48<\/p>\n
headers don\u2019t<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 07:48<\/p>\n
help either. Sure, no question. So I mean, it\u2019s, it\u2019s not good across the board right now. And look, I know Craig Albernaz was asked after the game, and I\u2019ll read the quote, Oh, and look, this is straight from the manager, right? This isn\u2019t Luke and Nestor being alarmist. Here we get it. It\u2019s early. May I understand that. But you know, it doesn\u2019t take long for this to turn into what last year was.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 08:15<\/p>\n
Well, you see the Yankees again in a few days too.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 08:17<\/p>\n
Well,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 08:17<\/p>\n
they\u2019ll be here the end of the week.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 08:19<\/p>\n
Who have they been good against? I mean, like, they win a series against a bad team.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 08:23<\/p>\n
But this is where you, like, you fall, 10 games under 599 I mean, you know, the Preakness is two weeks away. They better, dude, go back to last week. You and I roll the tape back. You know, do the old Wayne, you know, from four days ago. And I\u2019m like, they better not be I said, six games under, five under, they\u2019re already there. Now,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 08:44<\/p>\n
not there now. I mean, we\u2019re under, let\u2019s let\u2019s be<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 08:47<\/p>\n
okay. But<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 08:48<\/p>\n
I mean, for me, it\u2019s not even that, like at some point in time, you need to start looking like a good baseball team and exhibiting some qualities of a good baseball team. Nestor, I went back and looked at it again, because this is where we start looking at Mike Elias and the big picture. This team from the beginning of July 2022 so this was before gunner Henderson was caught up. This was Adley rutchman, two months less than two months into his major league career, from July of 2022 to through June of 2024 his team was 202 and 129 that is a 99 win pace over close to two calendar years of baseball since then. And this is through Sunday\u2019s action since then. So July 1 2024 through the modern you know today they\u2019re 128 and 146 that\u2019s a 75 and a half win pace. We\u2019re coming up on two calendar years of this team being at best, mediocre and at times, just being plain bad, when, by the way, it was supposed to be the these are the blocks SUPPOSED TO BE THE. Their way? Yeah, these were the blossom years. These were the years where new ownership signing players like Alonzo, having money for the Bassets, having money to address the bullpen, having young players to deal out and deal out of Kyle Stowers to get yourself an opening day starter and Trevor Rogers. So yeah, man. I mean, it\u2019s a mixed bag. It always is, you know what I mean, but it\u2019s been worse than a mixed bag, though, that\u2019s the problem. I mean, not sorry to cut you off, but 2023 that 101 win team. And I pointed this out to you, and other people pointed this out. Go back and look at that, that game one lineup against the Rangers, like who played, who was playing for that team at that point, Gunner, Henderson and Adley rutchman. Westberg was kind of platooning with Adam Frazier at that point. You know, kauser had had his cup of coffee back in July and had been sent down again. That team was way more about as far as the bulk of like, filling it out. I get it, gunner and Adley rutsman were leading the way.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 11:03<\/p>\n
But it was Santander Mullins. It was the group.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 11:05<\/p>\n
It was all that, the leftover players from the end of the Duquette era. I mean, that it was Austin Hayes, it was Cedric Mullins, it was Anthony Santander, like Ryan mountcastle, was a much better player at that point in time. I mean, go down the list and part of, if you recall, part of the rationale at that, at that 2023 trades deadline, was what you didn\u2019t want to be too hasty in terms of what you tried to do in terms of Making Moves, because you\u2019ve got this incredibly talented young core of you\u2019re just entering<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 11:36<\/p>\n
the Window<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 11:37<\/p>\n
Right, right? And instead, man, instead, it\u2019s looking more and more and more and more like that was the peak, and it\u2019s not going to get that good again. I mean, we can\u2019t<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 11:51<\/p>\n
get that good again if Brandon young and Kate Povich and Trey Gibson are going to be starting games over the next six weeks. And I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know. I really don\u2019t know. And Bradish doesn\u2019t look very good. Bassett doesn\u2019t look very good. The guys you\u2019re really counting on aren\u2019t there, and all of a sudden, Trey Gibson is trying to bail your ass out of Yankee Stadium, while the lineup, the lineup unto itself. If you just looked at the lineup with no Henderson in it, with this cast of names. If I would have given you that, you would have said, Dude, what are we playing a grapefruit B league game in Bradenton? We\u2019re going to Yankee Stadium against Max freed with these guys, really, it\u2019s amazing. I mean, that\u2019s I text you in the morning on Sunday. It\u2019s like, this was not the plan holiday westburg, just on and on and on all the names that were the plan. But to your point, Tyler O\u2019Neill, right?<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 12:54<\/p>\n
Tyler O\u2019Neill, I mean, if he doesn\u2019t start doing something, I mean, we\u2019re getting to the point where even me, you know me, I\u2019m way more conservative in nature when it comes to just saying, get rid of somebody. I mean, he\u2019s got to start showing signs of life. I He walked a few times, right? He made a sliding play in the outfield, although we\u2019ve also seen him misplay a number of balls, right?<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 13:19<\/p>\n
But,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 13:20<\/p>\n
I mean, this is a guy that was<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 13:21<\/p>\n
can of corn when the ball got hit to Tyler O\u2019Neill over the weekend. I\u2019m like, stop. There\u2019s no like, when the ball gets hit up near to any of these guys. You said he missed playing. I mean, the defense, time the ball goes anywhere, anything is<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 13:37<\/p>\n
terrible on this ball club. It is absolutely dreadful. It might be. I mean, we talked about the defense last year and the second half of 2024 and let\u2019s face it, even when they were winning 101 games back in 2023 it\u2019s not as though they had Gold Glove players at every single you know, Cedric Mullins,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 13:55<\/p>\n
they made the play, but<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 13:56<\/p>\n
they<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 13:56<\/p>\n
made plays. I mean, I said it and I made the point. I tweeted it out. I\u2019ve been saying this as kind of a one liner. I think I used it with you a few days ago. I flat out said, No, team makes routine plays look tough and tough plays look impossible, like the Orioles right now. I mean, it\u2019s it\u2019s awful, but I just, you don\u2019t<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 14:15<\/p>\n
want to give that guy a glove, right, let alone a bat. Same thing with mayo at this point.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 14:20<\/p>\n
That\u2019s the Yeah, so I think I texted this to you late in the game on Sunday, but I\u2019m really at a point now where I think Michael ice got to make a move of some sort, like you guys shake things up. You\u2019ve got to send a message. I look he\u2019s far from their biggest problem or their only problem, but I don\u2019t know how you can continue to play Kobe mayo on a regular basis at this point, he\u2019s not hitting. I mean, he he had about a five game stretch where he hit a couple out of the ballpark, but he\u2019s back to not hitting again. He<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 14:55<\/p>\n
looks so damn good in the uniform, though his<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 14:57<\/p>\n
defense is his defense. That third base started out okay, early in the year, I feel like we\u2019ve seen him start that\u2019s starting to go sideways.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 15:06<\/p>\n
Yeah, it\u2019s you\u2019re not thinking, if the ball\u2019s rolling foul and you\u2019re picking it off, you\u2019re just not thinking. You\u2019re not thinking. And a little league, so that\u2019s a little league play, really, is like, here\u2019s like, the ball\u2019s rolling foul, let it roll foul, your third base. Come on, man,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 15:22<\/p>\n
just showing a lack of you\u2019re either trying to do too much, lack of awareness, like a lack of understanding a game situation, whatever it is, or just someone who\u2019s pressing. And I think that\u2019s really what it is. But look, there\u2019s not an ideal replacement right now, but I look at this very simplistic in a very simplistic way, Blaze Alexander is going to give you better defense at third base, and mayo is not hitting anyway. Now, Blaze Alexander doesn\u2019t have the upside with the bat, but you can keep talking about upside. I mean, pub, Mayo has had 400 plate appearances in the major leagues. I\u2019m not ready to close the book on him, whether it\u2019s with the Orioles or someone else, that he won\u2019t become a good player at some point. I think that\u2019s possible, but that doesn\u2019t mean he\u2019s on scholarship, where you just continue to to jot<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 16:08<\/p>\n
about the<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 16:08<\/p>\n
crash out the second season with opportunities, right?<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 16:11<\/p>\n
So, right? Well,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 16:12<\/p>\n
not him. The team is about to crash, and he\u2019s a part of it. But<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 16:16<\/p>\n
I, I just look at this thing at this point where it\u2019s all this probably won\u2019t mean a whole lot to you, because I don\u2019t think, I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve seen Moneyball with Brad Pitt as Billy Bean, but you know, they get to a certain point in the season and just start, he makes a couple trades, like he trades a couple guys, sends a guy down. I mean, it\u2019s, it\u2019s the proverbial shake that, you know, shake up send a message that this isn\u2019t good enough, I mean, and the problem is, and I just mentioned Blaise Alexander, not really anyone at Norfolk right now that is screaming, give me an opportunity. I mean, Enrique bradfield\u2019s on the IL, so it\u2019s the options aren\u2019t great. But if I\u2019m Michaelia, if I were the GM, I\u2019d be going to see if I can go make an Aaron Hicks move. I mean, Aaron Hicks, if you recall, they brought him to Baltimore right after the Cedric Mullins injury. The Yankees adjust jet is in<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 17:11<\/p>\n
him.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 17:11<\/p>\n
Get an outfielder who can play their outfield. Get me an outfielder.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 17:15<\/p>\n
Their outfield is just, oh, man, dude,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 17:18<\/p>\n
they<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 17:18<\/p>\n
can it left handed pitching. They don\u2019t feel I mean, I just, I can throw the book at them today. I mean, and it\u2019s so disheartening for me, right, sure. I mean, 43 years into this, the you know, aside from every Greg Bader and John Angelos and Katie Griggs and Mark fine, I\u2019ve had to deal with as a citizen here, as a fan. I mean, I got a call from Wendy brown fine at a curio wellness and foreign dodder to take these tickets. The other day, my wife and I, my wife played hooky from work. It wasn\u2019t even that nice. It was only like 62 it wasn\u2019t like 80 degrees nice. It was just okay. And we played hooky. We went down there, and I\u2019m like, I want to be optimistic. No, I mean, about all of it I lived at. This was the view of where I lived, losing a quarter of a million dollars in investing in the city with my with the place I call a residence for 20 years of my life, 19 years of my life. So like going down there and parking the car and walking across the parking lot and, you know, seeing people come in and out there in a double header, seeing you seeing friends running into people, you know, I\u2019m trying to get the bigger picture of the value of all of it when seasons are over in early May. And like, it\u2019s not over, it\u2019s not Yeah, but it\u2019s but the guys they have right now, this isn\u2019t going to make it. I mean, like, Come on, dude, if this were opening day right now and this were their lineup, we just looked at it. And don\u2019t tell me why, holidays, not here or westburg or when, but if this is what you got to play with, it\u2019s just not good enough. I mean, it\u2019s just not, I hear you, but<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 19:16<\/p>\n
this is where we just kind of disagree on like fixating on like you\u2019re fixating on the bottom of the roster, and you\u2019re not wrong, but I need to see more of the guys that are supposed to be like the parts of this team that are actually playing well,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 19:32<\/p>\n
run around and yell about Pete Alonso making money. I mean, we did a little bit of that last week with Chris Davis and Glenn Davis. I don\u2019t you\u2019re not pulling him out of the lineup, freed on the on $600 million shortstop. They don\u2019t even play him because they don\u2019t want him to bat against the left hand. It reminds me Raphael Palmeiro, I can\u2019t get hit against Randy Johnson, you it\u2019ll put me into a slump. So I mean, like Henderson wouldn\u2019t even give it a chance. To hit them, or he hit his way into being a hero at Yankee Stadium on a Sunday afternoon against Max freed, and they got double a pitching in there and and like. And I\u2019m go ahead, you could be down on gun, or Henderson, if you want. I mean, I whatever. We could be up on Rush, man, just all of that. And I just<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 20:19<\/p>\n
think it\u2019s kind of like we\u2019re just screaming into the wind if we\u2019re going to complain about Weston Wilson and blaze Alexander, when Gunnar Henderson has a sub 300 on base percentage, when Pete Alonso had a sub 700 ops until the last five days.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 20:35<\/p>\n
Johnny Oates, I was there that night that he threw all the franks and beans, I just and the barbecue all over the locker room, and he\u2019s yelling, who\u2019s gonna lead us? Who\u2019s gonna lead us? I think he was even pointing to Glenn Davis when that happened. Actually, is about that era, so, yeah, you know, like, I just remember that one. And, you know, I\u2019m not saying Albernaz needs to knock over the prime ribbit,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 20:55<\/p>\n
you know, underneath of the stadium, but I don\u2019t know where the shake up is when this is the locker room. To my point is, what do you expect? You throw a double A pitchers out there, triple A pitchers, three out of four days like, what do you expect? I mean, they\u2019re, they\u2019re triple A pitchers. We don\u2019t need to say double A, but again, Trey Gibson gave them a chance on Sunday. They didn\u2019t hit. I mean, and I think the bigger point at work here, and it actually makes it kind of funny that you and I are both kind of saying, it\u2019s this, it\u2019s that.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 21:31<\/p>\n
The problem it\u2019s<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 21:33<\/p>\n
everything. The problem is it\u2019s everything. I mean, there are very few things you can point to right now that other than a few individuals, that\u2019s going well. Like I said, even the bullpen, which had been better relative to expectations given some of the injuries they had, even that\u2019s starting to fall down the mountain now. And I just I need to see more signs that this is going to get better. And I\u2019m just not sure it is to the and again, that goes back to what I was just saying. I don\u2019t know if that necessarily means they\u2019re going to crash and burn to the degree that they did by the third week of May last year, but they\u2019re closer to that right now than feeling like they\u2019re a team that can contend with the Yankees for first place in the Al east. So how am I to be all that optimistic? But the point I was trying to make just, you know, going back to whether it\u2019s mayo or Colton cows or Tyler O\u2019Neill, at some point, don\u2019t you have to send a message to say this isn\u2019t good enough. This is below the bar, even if I point to Mike Elias, first and foremost, over everything about this club, right? You know what<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 22:40<\/p>\n
I did? I pointed. I pointed at the score was 10 to nothing in the fourth inning on Thursday, after I begged my wife to take off a work early and we fed the cat, and we ran out of here, we put, I put on some aqua velvet and came down by the head delicious barbecue sandwich from Heritage smokehouse. I want to give them a plug. They\u2019re right on York Road. They\u2019re my friends, family and my wife was sitting around Sunday morning talking about how good the brisket was from Thursday. So how about that? But like, Dude, I walked out, like, I went all the way down there to watch a baseball game, and it\u2019s 10 to nothing in the fourth inning. And I\u2019m like, you know, that was my wife\u2019s experience at the ballpark there, literally, I mean, and I\u2019m thinking to myself, gosh, I mean, I wish this were more fun, dude. And on a side note, with you and me, and I wasn\u2019t kidding with you on Friday, and I wasn\u2019t even doing stick,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 23:32<\/p>\n
yeah,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 23:32<\/p>\n
I would love for you and me to have to get up on Monday morning and go up to New York because the game so freaking big that we wouldn\u2019t want to miss it that little Nestor and little Luke, who grew up to do sports radio for a living, one of us being locked out for basically being honest with these creeps that you would be allowed in, I wouldn\u2019t be allowed. And I checked my app. Tickets were 13 bucks. I had a room set up on 62nd Street. It\u2019s going to take you, get you some traditis Pizza. Pizza. John\u2019s is great, but traditis is really good too. It\u2019s New York. You get pizza. It\u2019s in the water. Man, I was going to, like, do up some Korean wings. You and me. I was, like, beer. Like, I was going to have a beer. I don\u2019t know about you, but I was going to offer one. You know, it\u2019s going to be in the 70s. Like, when\u2019s this going to be fun? Dude? Yeah, seriously, you know what? I mean, the last fun we had was going to Arlington, and I got mistreated by Jennifer, whatever her name is. I don\u2019t even matter. Like, I like, when is this going to be fun? I\u2019m on the effing on deck circle on Thursday, dropping my day, leaving Jim Palmer. Palmer\u2019s eating wings, and I\u2019m in a car. I missed it.<\/p>\n
Speaker 1\u00a0 24:49<\/p>\n
Grand<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 24:49<\/p>\n
Slam, another grand slam. I get down there. It\u2019s 10 nothing. They\u2019re getting their ass kicked.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 24:54<\/p>\n
We\u2019re coming up on two years since it\u2019s been fun. First half of 2024. Was a blast. You. You and I. How many times have we cited us sitting at the bar at Costas on when the Orioles were finishing off a series win in the Bronx, and you know, they\u2019re right there with<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 25:10<\/p>\n
a bar and watched a ball game together, you and me, you know<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 25:16<\/p>\n
that it\u2019s been all downhill since then, and nearly a straight line down now, they played better from June on last year compared to where they were the first two months. But still nothing special, right? I mean, a few games over 500 the rest of the way. I mean still nothing you\u2019re writing home about, nothing that you\u2019re short of, the kind of offseason that we thought this looked like, at least to some degree, right? I\u2019m not gonna, I don\u2019t want to make this<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 25:45<\/p>\n
dummy for being optimistic, man, you know what? I mean, sure, well, and that\u2019s why, that\u2019s why, because I\u2019m looking at this now, and I am not optimistic, because look at it. Just look at the players. If they were failing with holiday westburg. I mean, if they had Mayo times four or five, I guess I wouldn\u2019t feel any better about it, but I would make the argument I\u2019m making with you, which is, leave Alonzo and Henderson alone. No hit. They\u2019re<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 26:12<\/p>\n
not doing their part. They\u2019re supposed to be the stars, and that\u2019s my point. Like you\u2019re wanting more out of Blaze Alexander and guys like,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 26:22<\/p>\n
No, I\u2019m not. I\u2019m just throwing my hands up in the air. I\u2019m not expecting any more. Until<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 26:26<\/p>\n
recently, Pete Alonso hadn\u2019t done anything with the bat, I mean. And again, we\u2019re, we\u2019re talking in circles here. The problem is everything, everything is the<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 26:37<\/p>\n
backlay is Campbell. I\u2019m more excited about that, you know.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 26:40<\/p>\n
And I think, I think the other part of this that that\u2019s really frustrating is it\u2019s a new manager, it\u2019s a new coaching staff, other than Drew, you know, the on the pitching side<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 26:53<\/p>\n
supposed to be progress. Man, defense looks, oh my god, man,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 26:57<\/p>\n
I\u2019ll tell you the, I\u2019ll tell you the individual that\u2019s looking better and better Brandon Hyde. And that\u2019s not the and that\u2019s not even me saying that Brandon Hyde is the next Earl Weaver. Let me be clear about that Brandon Hyde had his imperfections and things that I disagreed with. But it goes back to the general point that we talked about at the time was the manager is middle management. I\u2019m seeing as more time goes on, I\u2019m seeing a problem with the vision, with the organizational philosophy, with the culture. And I don\u2019t mean culture in the sense of like guys fighting behind the scenes or anything like that, but it just you<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 27:38<\/p>\n
put pictures on the mound and say, defense doesn\u2019t matter here, right? Sure you\u2019ve said this. Allen has said this. I have said this. Lock and four is barking so much I\u2019m retweeting him at this point, you know? I mean, yeah, I mean, and I don\u2019t want to be that guy, but I mean, for crying out loud, I mean, the freaking race is coming to Laurel in a week and a half, and these people expect me to carry the water for something that\u2019s broken. You know, the horse racing thing here, and the Preakness thing here, especially after the back end of that derby. Female trainer, jockey crying, his brother finishes second place. I don\u2019t know whether the horse is coming here or not, which is its own issue, but how they\u2019ve destroyed horse racing here. Baseball is not far behind. Dude, like, and my wife and I sitting out there on Thursday, like, now they\u2019re gonna, they\u2019re gonna have a labor disagreement at the end of the year. Like, about a way, I\u2019m reading Ken belson\u2019s book about the NFL and the EP Shaw Upshaw and Tagliabue and the union and how the NFL becomes something we talk about next week when they release the schedule. We all care about it, and baseball\u2019s been this deflated thing. They really want to screw it up, go to war with each other. But Luke, I swear to you, man, I walked around that empty ass ballpark on Thursday, and it\u2019s all gray behind home plate, and it\u2019s kind of like they really should have let Janet Marie in. I mean, in a million ways, but I even said to my wife, like going home, and she didn\u2019t even want to hear it. She\u2019s sick of me with this, but I\u2019m like, where are they getting the money? Where\u2019s all the money coming from, like, to pay these players and to grow the game and downtown, and what it\u2019s doing to the hotels and, like, where\u2019s all the where\u2019s the money coming from for all this, I don\u2019t know, man, I mean, that\u2019s what I think when I\u2019m down there and there\u2019s 3200 people running around the second game of a double header, and it\u2019s perfectly beautiful outside. And it was whatever 20 bucks to get in, or whatever I just I worry about all of it, and I worry about it a whole lot more if they\u2019re not going to be any good at all, if this is going to be as good as it gets, if they\u2019re going to tumble down the mountain and. And they\u2019re gonna, I mean, like, you corrected me. I said, I don\u2019t want them to be six under, and they already are. And you\u2019re like, No, they\u2019re four under. And I hear that, and I look at this, and I look at this roster, and I look at where they are, and I look at who\u2019s coming next, and I\u2019m like, they\u2019re going to be sick soon. I mean, they\u2019re, it\u2019s not that they\u2019re spending in the wrong direction. It\u2019s, I don\u2019t see a pathway for a better direction with with with this right now, if you\u2019re going to say to me, Well, how\u2019s Lee be back next week, and we\u2019re going to get Rogers back from the flu, and Alonzo is going to hit 429, over the next 14 games, and Henderson\u2019s going to come in, and he\u2019s going to play against left handers. And by the way, they\u2019re going to start hitting against left hand against left handers, and they\u2019re going to start catching the ball, and the bullpen is going to be fine, and we\u2019re going to organize all of that, and Dean Kramer is going to come back, and he\u2019s going to be fine, and he\u2019s going to settle like I just gave you a whole bunch of unlikely ish that Brett Hollander and Rob long are going to have to pitch to their audience because They work for the team. But I don\u2019t, you don\u2019t. We don\u2019t lock in four dozen. And what difference does it make anyway, if nobody\u2019s going to the games and they\u2019re going to sputter around and be a sub 500 outfit the rest of the way, how are they going to play four above? Tell me when they\u2019re going to get four above 500 to even get back to 500 with this, with what they have right now that that\u2019s<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 31:22<\/p>\n
all<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 31:22<\/p>\n
you you just laid out. I mean, they do have a lot of injury so I\u2019ll disagree a little bit with what you just said. The one thing that you said, I will completely, wholeheartedly agree with, they\u2019re not going to play good defense. I mean, they\u2019re just, they\u2019re not a good defensive club. We knew that before the year. I mean, well, then<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 31:37<\/p>\n
they better mash.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 31:38<\/p>\n
They were<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 31:41<\/p>\n
pitchers. They\u2019re going to get constructed more absolutely they<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 31:44<\/p>\n
haven\u2019t matched. I mean, and that\u2019s what I keep saying to you, like, you keep fixating on, like, these lesser players, how about their actual, real players? Start playing better guys. You know, it\u2019s like being mad at, uh, at Daniel fall lay if Lamar Jackson would go out there and throw five picks, you know? I mean, like, what are we doing here? So, but yeah, I mean, you slide out a lot of things that need to go better. And, yeah, they need those things to go better. You clearly thought a lot of those things were going to happen because you picked them to be a 92 win team. I picked<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 32:16<\/p>\n
them to<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 32:17<\/p>\n
New York today eating pastries on a 72 degree day with you going to Yankee Stadium for a game that matters, not here, sure on them and send you having you be happy. We\u2019re not going. And me be like, I almost want to go anyway, just because I want to have some fun. You want to go.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 32:39<\/p>\n
They\u2019re not fun to watch.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 32:41<\/p>\n
You don\u2019t want to go.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 32:41<\/p>\n
I\u2019ll tell you my it\u2019s funny.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 32:43<\/p>\n
You want to go.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 32:45<\/p>\n
Oh, I don\u2019t,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 32:45<\/p>\n
gosh,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 32:47<\/p>\n
for one, don\u2019t you know why? You know, I don\u2019t want to go. I want to watch the Sixers playing game one against the Knicks. Because I\u2019m actually happy about the Sixers beating Celtics. That was the sports highlight for Luke Jones over the weekend. My goodness. I mean, that\u2019s, that\u2019s what it\u2019s come to at this point. But I was talking to someone recently, someone who doesn\u2019t cover the Orioles directly, but watches a lot of baseball. And you know what our comment was? And this, this is before the weekend series. You know, this is when they were still right around 500 right? I mean, they fall into four under at the end of the weekend. But we said it at the time, they\u2019re just not they\u2019re not a fun watch, like even when they win. It\u2019s not an enjoyable product. All<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 33:30<\/p>\n
this<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 33:30<\/p>\n
bird, this and the squirt, Dad, it<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 33:32<\/p>\n
has nothing to<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 33:33<\/p>\n
do with that. I don\u2019t care. You\u2019re you\u2019re being an old man complaining about that. That\u2019s that, that\u2019s fine. It\u2019s that they played bad defense. It\u2019s that they don\u2019t run the bases. Well, it\u2019s<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 33:43<\/p>\n
that left field, third base, almost wound up in shock trauma in the Bronx on Sunday, bumping in, running in each I mean, it looks and then the ball goes squirting in the other. I mean, it\u2019s<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 33:53<\/p>\n
just<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 33:54<\/p>\n
Follies. It\u2019s like I said, they make the routine plays look tough and the tough plays look impossible. I mean, that, you know, it has nothing to do with the bird bath or the Happy Hands or that look again, that that\u2019s, there\u2019s, that\u2019s not a problem. That\u2019s fine. But<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 34:11<\/p>\n
did they get Mike? Can I ask you or<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 34:14<\/p>\n
not?<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 34:14<\/p>\n
Is that meant for<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 34:15<\/p>\n
I\u2019m trying to think who was asked about it when it first was it rushman that was asked about it, and he said, like, he referenced that someone had mentioned that, but I don\u2019t know if that was actually directly for that, but that\u2019s what I think about. One of my long, you know, long time friend of mine actually messaged me and asked me that same thing. I said, Yeah, it does remind me of Napoleon Dynamite, but, but no, just to get back to my point, like, obviously, it\u2019s about winning, right? You want to win, but don\u2019t have a chance to win. There\u2019s also a way that, and I but I\u2019ll continue to go back to, I think anyone, and I say this even as someone that\u2019s not infatuated with bunting and hit and runs and. Ball, ball, and old school playing baseball. You know, I\u2019m not, but that said, I think there is absolutely a strong correlation with just your overall enjoyment of watching baseball, with how a team plays defense, and their defense stinks, so even the nights where they\u2019re winning games. And you know, they\u2019re not 15 games, they\u2019re not 20 games under 500 they\u2019re not 15 games under 500 they\u2019re but I can envision them being as such. If they\u2019re going to play as comprised, they look closer to that if you\u2019re going to play defense like that and not hit the ball the way that they were allegedly supposed to. Yeah, the other, the other thing that I\u2019m really growing weary of is hearing how talented they are, how many times. And look, you and I are guilty of this too. So I\u2019ll, I\u2019ll throw myself under the bus with this. But Oh man, these guys are so talented and oh they\u2019re 92<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 36:00<\/p>\n
wins on talent, dude, I bought 92 wins on Westberg, rushman, Henderson, Alonso, that\u2019s what I wouldn\u2019t even buy in Ward I was more buying O\u2019Neill would bounce back and hit 21 home runs and hit 232, and at least but be pliable, be able to play in 118 games, you know,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 36:23<\/p>\n
but I still go back to the young core. Look, they did not get Adley rutchman and gunner Henderson because they tanked. They got Adley rutchman and gunner Henderson because Dan Duquette and Buck Showalter gave it one last go, trying to be a wild card team and 2018 instead of trading Manny Machado and doing the things that should have been done, you know, at least that at the very least should have been done the previous winter, if not a year earlier. But they got those guys because that 2018 team was historically awful, even though they weren\u2019t trying to be Mike Elias came in and they were, they deliberately stayed awful for 2019 and 2020 and 2021 seven years ago. Wow. What have they netted from those subsequent drafts that you really say? Wow. I love that. We thought Jordan westburg was on his way to being that way, and now he can\u2019t stay on the field. Jackson holiday, even before this hand injury, still had a lot to prove, to prove worthy of being a one. One we\u2019ve talked about Colton cowser, we\u2019ve talked about Heston kerstad, right? I mean, go down to Kobe mayo in the 2020 draft. So this core, this is a, this was supposed to be the fruits of all that suffering in 1920 and 21 and, my goodness, there\u2019s nothing to show for it right now of real, tangible value that, hey, this has arrived even beside who of the young core has so far looked the best out of that group, not, you know, putting gunner and Adley rutchman, you know, because they were a couple years ahead of the rest of the crew. But, you know, bisayo, it\u2019s has really started swinging the bat well over the last couple of weeks. And he\u2019s 21 I have a lot more patience for him than say, Colton kauser, but man, I think a big part of this, and I think this is where you really have to tread carefully as an organization. And if you\u2019re Mike Elias, when you\u2019re talking about this, you sold to your fan base that there was no other way than to stay deliberately bad for the course of three seasons where you didn\u2019t even try to to win at the major league level. You know, the players, players and coaches did, but as far as the roster building, they didn\u2019t even try at the major league level. And it was supposed to be, because you were going to draft all these great young players. And we\u2019re now three years past the 101 win best team in the American League, home field advantage, First Division title since 2014 team. And it\u2019s just it\u2019s going nowhere but the wrong direction. And yeah, they are hurt, and that is absolutely part of this, but that\u2019s another concern I have. What is, what does this team do from a strength and conditioning standpoint, they just had bad luck. It\u2019s that old black cat. You can keep talking about it being back up bad luck and bad luck and bad luck and bad luck, but, man, what are you doing to make sure it\u2019s not bad luck? Are you exhausting every avenue? I mean, say what you want about the Ravens. Look you and I know have critiques and thoughts about various aspects of the organization, but the Ravens just went in and they just went and hired away a. Acclaimed, you know, kind of sports doctor from a rugby a world renowned rugby team because of his philosophies and handling of, you know, injury management and recovery and things of that nature. I mean, you talk about an outside the box idea in terms of trying to curtail injuries. Now, we\u2019ll see if it works. But the point is, is Mike Elias in this organization doing those, going to those kinds of lengths to make sure whatever is happening is not just bad luck and something that maybe is being overlooked, or something that\u2019s being lost, or something you\u2019re not doing right, or are you just saying, Oh, it\u2019s bad luck. It\u2019ll turn eventually. So I mean, that\u2019s just one of many things that I\u2019m questioning about this organization at this point, because there\u2019s just there aren\u2019t nearly enough things. When you look at trend arrows, right, up or down, right, hot, hot or cold, there aren\u2019t nearly enough things right now with this club to feel all that encouraged that they\u2019re going to really start to turn this thing around,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 41:05<\/p>\n
that four games under 500 is going to turn into four over 500 sometime soon with this. I mean, that\u2019s, that\u2019s what I\u2019m talking about, like,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 41:16<\/p>\n
but they, but that said, like Pete Alonso. They signed him to be Pete Alonso. He\u2019s been a good defensive first baseman who\u2019s hit for a little bit of pop, and I hope over the these last five games, we\u2019re starting to see him really get going, because he\u2019s one of the few guys who swung the bat well over the weekend in the Bronx.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 41:37<\/p>\n
He\u2019s got to be the leader. So does gunner, and<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 41:39<\/p>\n
it\u2019s not,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 41:41<\/p>\n
it\u2019s not, it\u2019s not going to be Jackson holiday or Jordan Westberg or Kobe mayo or it\u2019s just not rushman, sure. I mean, you know, I mean,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 41:49<\/p>\n
I mean, here\u2019s, here\u2019s the sobering thought, if this team doesn\u2019t contend, and this team looks closer to last year than what we were hoping was<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 42:01<\/p>\n
going selling July 31<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 42:02<\/p>\n
I\u2019ll tell you who the who\u2019s number one at the top of the list. It\u2019s not Gunnar Henderson, Adley rutchman, if he\u2019s going to continue to play the way he has, because Adley rutsman is a free agent after next season. So I don\u2019t like, I don\u2019t even like bringing that up. It bums me out having to bring that up, but<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 42:20<\/p>\n
that\u2019s a baseball reality.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 42:22<\/p>\n
I mean, this is, you know, I\u2019ve already had people in my timeline saying, you know, they\u2019re gonna have to blow this thing up again, yada yada yada, couple things. I\u2019m not there yet. And, well, we\u2019re getting there on Elias, but, well, that was gonna be my next point. Yeah, if we are to get to that point, it needs to be a new regime, right? And it would, to me, it would be a scenario where, if this season ends up looking like last year, I think you need to, ownership needs to bring in a new head of baseball ops. You clean house in that way, and then you find, I don\u2019t know, is it someone with Cleveland? Is it someone with Tampa Bay like you know Mike Elias version two? And when I say that, I don\u2019t mean someone that\u2019s an exact clone of him, I mean someone that\u2019s regarded in a similar way to how we viewed Mike Elias eight years ago, and you have that individual and a new front office assess what\u2019s here, and is it a case like we saw with Kyle Stowers, who goes to Miami, and suddenly, you know, they make a couple adjustments, and you know, it\u2019s a fresh start. And then maybe you start to say, oh, maybe these guys, maybe these guys are talented, but the the philosophy and the organization\u2019s really lacking, and they\u2019re, they\u2019re kind of focusing on the wrong things. And, you know, maybe there is a scenario for that, or that that individual deems, no, these guys aren\u2019t it. And then then you are faced with the more sobering starting over, kind of again, man, I it bums me out, even that we\u2019re having this conversation. And, you know, right around Cinco de Mayo, I mean, we\u2019re still it\u2019s still early. The season isn\u2019t over, but this is not trending well. And I we said it a lot during spring training, to me, it was so critical for this team to start off well. And I didn\u2019t mean that it needed to be 25 and five, but I think you wanted to see a team that jumped out to being five or six games over 500 you know, nothing crazy, but just saying, Hey, this is a legitimately good team in the American League, and this is a team that making noise in the Al east, and maybe they wouldn\u2019t be in first place. And look, the Yankees. Since they had their kind of law a couple weeks ago, the Yankees have gone nuts since then, the Yankees are the best team in this division right now, until proven otherwise. You know, Tampa\u2019s been better than expected. Boston and Toronto is right there with the Orioles in terms of disappointing. I mean, those teams have been even more disappointing. It\u2019s why the Red Sox have already fired their manager. So this isn\u2019t I\u2019m disappointed. I\u2019m disappointed you and I aren\u2019t having the many.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 45:00<\/p>\n
Dessert, chicken bucket, Yankee Stadium, vanilla ice cream, white chocolate, candy, corn flakes.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 45:09<\/p>\n
I mean chocolate<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 45:09<\/p>\n
cookie bone 1099, that\u2019s a bargain in the Bronx. Come on, man, you sure you don\u2019t want to go? Who\u2019s pitching?<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 45:18<\/p>\n
I\u2019m sure I don\u2019t want to<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 45:19<\/p>\n
go. Why don\u2019t you want to<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 45:20<\/p>\n
go?<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 45:22<\/p>\n
I already told you why<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 45:24<\/p>\n
you don\u2019t like bad baseball.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 45:26<\/p>\n
Well, it\u2019s not just that. But I, like I said, I want to watch the Sixers on Monday, and I\u2019ll be watching both. Look, I mean, it\u2019s just all, all kidding aside. I mean, they just, they\u2019re not a good product right now, and that, you know, to go more towards your point as far as the big picture and ownership and fan engagement and all of that. Man, this is not what they needed on the heels of last year. And, you know, you fire the manager, you bring in a new manager, all of that, and it\u2019s looking very similar to last year. Wait, that\u2019s not good. I mean, it\u2019s just, it\u2019s not hard to sell. See, I\u2019m not the truest, yeah, club. I\u2019m not even going on. This isn\u2019t Luke trying to make fun of them or anything like that. That\u2019s bad. That\u2019s,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 46:10<\/p>\n
that\u2019s my job. Yeah,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 46:11<\/p>\n
that\u2019s bad news. I mean, it really is. So look like I said it\u2019s one thing to talk they have injuries, and by no means, even if, even if I thought this team was playing well, they\u2019re not in a position right now to be firing on all cylinders. I\u2019ll, I\u2019ll totally acknowledge that I\u2019m not expecting them.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 46:30<\/p>\n
They\u2019ve had bad luck. I mean, I literally, I\u2019m not making fun of I mean, literally, they\u2019ve had bad misfortune. When you\u2019re having a bone injuries at the<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 46:39<\/p>\n
same time that can\u2019t be that can\u2019t give everyone else a pass. I mean, like I said, Gunner Henderson through Saturday. You know, when they lost nine to four on Saturday and Bradish pitched poorly, and gunner Henderson has a 275, on base percentage. Right now he\u2019s striking out. What about 30% of the time? Something? You know, it\u2019s up<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 47:01<\/p>\n
again. He didn\u2019t even play on Sunday. He\u2019s a team leader. The first time<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 47:05<\/p>\n
he hasn\u2019t played<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 47:05<\/p>\n
against the left but, I mean, he can\u2019t even give him a chance when it\u2019s like, just sit down and chill out for a day. And I\u2019m not saying that\u2019s a good thing or a bad thing, probably a good thing, but not in the big picture, leadership, and we\u2019re getting our ass kicked. Well, go down the bathroom. I\u2019ll take the ship for a little while. You know, like there is a point where, like, Gunner Henderson hitting two home runs off Max free to save the day is sort of the injection of what this team needs. I mean, you\u2019re to your point. He can\u2019t be the hero if he\u2019s not even in the lineup on a day when, you know they were need of a year they were in the game on Sunday.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 47:45<\/p>\n
Yeah, yeah. Well, and that, and that\u2019s where you look at it, and say, okay, you know, is that on Albernaz? Is that on Elias? Is that on the front office, who said, Hey, let\u2019s give gunner a day.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 47:55<\/p>\n
Well, it\u2019s not a bad day to give him a day. I mean, I\u2019m playing a little sports radio Monday morning on that. But of<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 48:00<\/p>\n
course, let\u2019s be cool. Let\u2019s be clear. Max Fried\u2019s really good, you know, like, but, you know, you kind of look at this team. I mean, who\u2019s going to step up? I was just compliment Natalie rushman, how he was, oh, for eight in this first two games of the series that he played. I mean, what was good over the weekend, you know? Like I said, Trey Gibson, it\u2019s a low bar. Mind you, he gave them the best chance out of their three starters who went over the first three games. You know, he competed. I\u2019ll say this. He put he pitched well enough that I\u2019m looking forward to seeing him again, whether it\u2019s five days from now or whether it\u2019s a month from now, what you know, whatever they decide to do, but, man, it\u2019s just it\u2019s disheartening to go to New York, and we\u2019re not going to New York. I\u2019m talking about the Orioles. I\u2019m not trying to make this about us, but it\u2019s just<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 48:58<\/p>\n
trying to have fun with the baseball. There\u2019s<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 49:00<\/p>\n
nothing fun about it right now. You know, it\u2019s just not but to not even look like you belong on the field with with the team that\u2019s in first place in your division. That\u2019s disappointing in<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 49:12<\/p>\n
May,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 49:12<\/p>\n
at least on Sunday. I mean Friday and Saturday, they weren\u2019t really even in the game. I mean Saturday a little bit, but Povich, you know, they give up five runs right off the bat on Friday night. I mean, you\u2019re out of it already. And,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 49:25<\/p>\n
yeah, I was a believer Sunday when they got back in the game. I\u2019m like, yeah, maybe get a little magic here. Loyal magic.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 49:33<\/p>\n
Andrew Kittredge just completely got, you know, completely knocked around. I mean, I don\u2019t know. Hopefully that doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s an issue with the shoulder, but he was bad and that, you know, you brought him in in that spot in<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 49:48<\/p>\n
hellsley, things terrible too, right? Sure. I<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 49:50<\/p>\n
mean, it\u2019s, yeah, I mean,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 49:51<\/p>\n
and staring down at that before they got into that circumstance after, yeah, you know, came in kind of early. You\u2019re like, all right, who do we have? Oh, we don\u2019t have him. Anymore,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 50:00<\/p>\n
yeah, well, and the problem is, I mean, they just got Aiken and Kittredge back, Dietrich ends is back. So, and I\u2019m not, I\u2019m not saying those guys are, you know, the end all, be all. But the point is, you thought you were getting to a point where some phase of your roster, your bullpen was turned<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 50:20<\/p>\n
down Nunez and Garcia a little bit. Just turn up more the veteran guy.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 50:24<\/p>\n
I mean, Rico Garcia has been great. Rico Garcia, he\u2019s my closer right now. I mean, by you know, until Elsie is back, he\u2019s been phenomenal. But<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 50:33<\/p>\n
situation where you can use a close,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 50:35<\/p>\n
well, sure they didn\u2019t have that over they didn\u2019t have that problem over the<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 50:39<\/p>\n
weekend. I mean,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 50:40<\/p>\n
you saw the Yankees bring in Bednar in the ninth inning because he hadn\u2019t pitched in like five days. He didn\u2019t have, didn\u2019t have a safe situation the first couple nights so but, man, it\u2019s just it\u2019s not a good vibe right now. And I\u2019ll leave you with what Albernaz said after the game on Sunday. And hold on my computer just froze. I wanted to read it word for word, but<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 51:02<\/p>\n
I\u2019m too busy reading about the vanilla ice cream.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 51:04<\/p>\n
But he was chocolate, man, you you love that. But, no, I mean, he was asked about, I<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 51:10<\/p>\n
don\u2019t know if I love it, because you\u2019re not going with me to eat it, and we\u2019re not going to know. Melanie said it was good. So it must be pretty good, you know.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 51:17<\/p>\n
But he was asked about where this team is, and he said, and I\u2019ll read you the quote directly. For me, it\u2019s at a crucial point where what team do we want to be? We can fold up and just think that everything will turn around just by itself, or we\u2019ve got to put the work in and really make this happen. I feel with those guys in the clubhouse, I feel it\u2019ll be the latter. These guys will put the work in, and we\u2019ll be better as the season goes on. I hope, I hope. But I feel like Brandon Hyde was saying very similar things a year ago at this time. So either Mike Elias whiffed on the higher to replace the manager, and that\u2019s a michaelias problem then, or the manager in the coaching isn\u2019t really the problem. It\u2019s either the players themselves, which were picked by michaelias or an organ, an overall organizational philosophy that is just not working well.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 52:07<\/p>\n
I\u2019d love to ask Michael era Getty about this, or David Rubenstein, but they\u2019re unavailable right now, so<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 52:12<\/p>\n
I can\u2019t imagine they\u2019re very happy right now, especially after the money they spent over<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 52:16<\/p>\n
I would think that Mr. Araghetti is probably very up in arms right now, so Luke and I will be here when the dealings done. We\u2019ll be here when this series are within the birds go to Miami later on in the week. Luke will be at the ballpark over the weekend. I will be at Planet Fitness this week on the seventh, the 13th, we moved to fayley\u2019s at Lexington market. That\u2019s the last game of the Yankee series, and that was my official measurement. If you remember, Luke, we talked about that, and as well, on the 21st we\u2019re going to be at the fishmonger\u2019s daughter in Catonsville, opening a new place. My wife and I had dinner there last week. It was fantastic. You know, if they\u2019re going to stink, I\u2019m going to make you laugh, and I\u2019m going to be funny, and there\u2019s nothing you\u2019re going to do that\u2019s going to stop this and this whole I can\u2019t go to New York because you\u2019re going to watch the NBA. Did you NBA on in New York? You know what? Dude, I totally missed this. Does anybody look? Call me if anybody\u2019s listen. It\u2019s radio station. Why don\u2019t we go to message to our show? Call me, somebody that knows me. Call me. Let\u2019s go to New York. It\u2019s gonna be 78 degrees. Let\u2019s go to New York. Let\u2019s get one of these mini dessert I\u2019m reading about this. I gotta have this vanilla listen, if as long as I believe my wife owns some marvelous is from 37th and sixth, we\u2019re good man, and I\u2019ll take a little ice with me. It\u2019ll be it\u2019ll work out. I can get these pastries home, vanilla ice cream, white chocolate, candied corn flakes and a chocolate cookie bone 1099, you know<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 53:50<\/p>\n
what? I figured it out. We\u2019re gonna go to New York. You can go watch the baseball team. I\u2019ll go to Madison Square Garden. Watch Sixers, Knicks. How about that?<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 53:59<\/p>\n
They\u2019re playing in New York, you didn\u2019t tell Monday night? Yeah. So what you\u2019re saying is you and I could sit in stout at 33rd and seventh and have some beers, and you\u2019re a block away from Nick\u2019s Sixers. We could, how about this? We go up early. You do pregame. We look like we\u2019re there. We\u2019ll get these ice cream things. We\u2019ll get on a seven. About what time is it? Tip off,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 54:26<\/p>\n
eight o\u2019clock.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 54:30<\/p>\n
I\u2019m trying to work this out with you, dude. I mean, I\u2019m trying to figure this out. You would pee your pants, though, if at 628, on Monday night, I\u2019m eating these chicken wing ice cream things in front of and singing Frank Sinatra songs, right? You would be like, That would be funny, wouldn\u2019t<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 54:49<\/p>\n
it would be funny. It would be funny.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 54:53<\/p>\n
It\u2019s gonna be 71 in New York. Well,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 54:55<\/p>\n
by the way, by the way, I just looked at, uh, I looked at what game one. Tickets are as low as $361<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 55:03<\/p>\n
I\u2019m not taking it to the next Sixers. I\u2019m giving you the ambiance, you know, saying, I mean, you drink it in,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 55:12<\/p>\n
yeah,<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 55:12<\/p>\n
all right, you still don\u2019t want to go.<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 55:15<\/p>\n
Do you know<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 55:17<\/p>\n
he\u2019s Luke. I\u2019m Nestor. We\u2019ll be back tomorrow to talk about another loss or maybe a victory. That\u2019s what<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 55:22<\/p>\n
makes it,<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 55:22<\/p>\n
hopefully a win.<\/p>\n
Nestor Aparicio\u00a0 55:24<\/p>\n
Stay with us. We\u2019re we\u2019re W N, S T AM, 1570 Towson, Baltimore, we never stop talking, wanting and waiting. 43 years. Least I can do is get a mini dessert drumstick ice cream out of the damn thing<\/p>\n
Luke Jones\u00a0 55:38<\/p>\n
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