{"id":231172,"date":"2026-05-14T10:45:09","date_gmt":"2026-05-14T10:45:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/231172\/"},"modified":"2026-05-14T10:45:09","modified_gmt":"2026-05-14T10:45:09","slug":"what-is-the-price-of-success-academy-former-students-open-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/231172\/","title":{"rendered":"What is the price of Success (Academy)? Former students open up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.chalkbeat.org\/ps-weekly-podcast\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/05\/ps-weekly-cover-artv2.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"68\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>P.S. Weekly is a student-produced podcast that casts light on important issues in the nation&#8217;s largest school system. The Bell&#8217;s team of 10 student producers who come from different public high schools work alongside Chalkbeat NY&#8217;s reporters to bring you stories, perspectives, and commentary you won&#8217;t get anywhere else.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sign up for <a href=\"https:\/\/ckbe.at\/4g9eqIV\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/ckbe.at\/4g9eqIV\">Chalkbeat New York\u2019s free daily newsletter<\/a> to get essential news about NYC\u2019s public schools delivered to your inbox.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">As Success Academy turns 20 this year, former students of New York City\u2019s largest charter school network share their stories in this episode of P.S. Weekly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Success Academy reshaped what free education for low-income students could look like. The network boasts <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/08\/14\/us-news\/success-academy-charter-students-test-scores-were-nearly-double-those-of-nyc-public-school-peers-data\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">above average scores on state tests<\/a> and impressive <a href=\"https:\/\/teachmag.com\/100-perecent-of-success-academy-grads-accepted-to-college\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">college admissions statistics<\/a>. Some alumni, however, wonder if the academic pressure and strict behavioral standards are worth it. Its famously test-focused approach has raised a question: How much pressure on students is too much?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">P.S. Weekly producers Jeremiah Dickerson, a senior at Williamsburg Charter High School, and Noa Salas Adam, a junior at Stuyvesant High School, dive into the complex world of Success Academy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Dickerson, himself a former Success Academy student, interviews another former student about what it was like to attend the school. They touch on everything from uniforms, \u201cmouth bubbles,\u201d and clip charts to extremely rigorous academics and the lingering emotional price tag of attending Success Academy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">P.S. Weekly is a collaboration between Chalkbeat and <a href=\"https:\/\/bellvoices.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Bell<\/a>. It\u2019s available on major podcast platforms, including <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/p-s-weekly\/id1736780869\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5HJgMu2UQOpG1kDGmSwAiv?si=e51af3c43ede4020\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>. Reach us at PSWeekly@chalkbeat.org. New episodes drop on Thursdays.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">P.S. Weekly is made possible by generous support from The Pinkerton Foundation.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re on a need-to-know basis.<\/p>\n<p>Every weekday morning, Chalkbeat New York is bringing thousands of subscribers the news on public schools and education policy that they need to start their day. Sign up for our free newsletter to join them.<\/p>\n<p>Transcript<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: On the last day of kindergarten, we lined up, and one by one were handed our school\u2019s signature orange tie. That was the prize for graduating to first grade. At five years old, I couldn\u2019t wait to get my hands on mine. It felt like it had a magic power. These days, people might call that aura, but back then, we called it success.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Newscaster: Success Academy, with schools in the Bronx and Brooklyn, is living up to its name, outperforming their peers by a landslide.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Newscaster: If Success Academy were a school district, it would be the single most successful school district<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Newscaster: the video raises new concerns about the demands on students at the 34 Success Academy schools in New York City.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Newscaster: Andrew Cuomo, who\u2019s running for mayor of New York, wrote in support of Success Academy<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News: Success Academy<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News: Success Academy<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News: Success Academy<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Welcome back to PS Weekly, The Sound of the New York City School System. I\u2019m Jeremiah Dickerson, a senior at Williamsburg Charter High School.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: And I\u2019m Noa Salas Adam, a junior at Stuyvesant High School.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: You\u2019ve probably seen the commercials, the TikTok horror stories, and students in navy blue sweaters swarming the streets on weekday afternoons.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">That\u2019s right, we\u2019re talking about Success Academy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Refresh my mind. Isn\u2019t Success Academy that huge network of charter schools that\u2019s been expanding over time? I see the Success ads everywhere, on subways, buses, even on Spotify.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Noa, you\u2019re spot on. 22,000 students attend Success Academy, making it the largest charter school network in the city, and that\u2019s even larger than Syracuse, New York\u2019s entire school district.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News clip: And it\u2019s even expanding to Florida next year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News clip: Success Academy Charter School\u2019s announcing its expansion to Florida, right here in Miami today. With Citadel\u2019s Ken Griffin contributing $50 million to that expansion. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Success Academy turns 20 this year. It started in Harlem back in 2006 with just one school and 165 students. But two decades later, there are FIFTY NINE Success Academy schools across the city.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: So if there are so many of the schools, they must be doing pretty well, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: On paper they are!. Just recently in 2025, Success was ranked number one in mathematics and number two in ELA state test scores out of over 700 public and charter schools across the state. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">The school started in predominantly Black and brown, as well as low-income neighborhoods in New York, and more recently have been expanding to wealthier, whiter neighborhoods.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Success has always been a huge target for both praise<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News clip: this dreary weather can\u2019t possibly put a damper on the bright students shining inside of Success Academy Bronx 2, They passed their state exams with flying colors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: And criticism.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News clip: the New York Times broke the story that a principal at the charter school network Success Academy targeted a group of students to be pushed out of his school, maintaining a secret \u201cgot to go\u201d list.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">News clip: Some disturbing video of a teacher at a New York City charter school is raising questions tonight about the harsh treatment of some of its youngest students.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Teacher: Count it again, making sure you\u2019re counting correctly. Go to the calm-down chair and sit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: I went to Success from kindergarten to second grade. And because the first class of Success Academy only graduated high school eight years ago, I\u2019m part of a growing number of teens and young adults who make up the Success Academy network and are now can share their stories.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: so I know it was a while ago, but what was your experience at Success like?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Well, Noa, I\u2019ll keep it brief, but I was suspended multiple times between ages five and seven. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: What, how does such a young kid get suspended?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: I got suspended for things that young kids usually do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Screaming, throwing a temper tantrum, being upset. You know, just not getting along with peers and not, in general, enjoying my environment<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">And a lot of times I felt like I was overstimulated, overworked, exhausted, and certain things that really led me to, like, what we would say in common times is crash out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: \u2018Cause you were going through a long school day, right?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Yeah, like 7 to 4:30 in the afternoon. And<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">we\u2019re not even accounting for the travel time commuting, you know, commuting from different places. Like, I lived in Harlem with my grandma, but then I attended Success Academy in the Bronx.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: That\u2019s a lot for a small kid<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Yeah, and it honestly makes me wonder whether there are other Success students out there who have had similar experiences to me <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Fast-forward to today, I\u2019m a high schooler going to school in Williamsburg. But throughout my high school career, I\u2019ve made friends with quite a few students who went to Success Academy as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: I immediately foot in the door. I was like, okay, things are going to change.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: That\u2019s my friend Sasha Hartwell.She\u2019s a senior at my school and attended Success for much longer than I did. While I went there for a short time, Sasha attended Success for most of her educational career. From third grade to the beginning of her senior year..<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Do you remember what your parents said, if anything, about why they chose Success Academy in the first <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: I do know that they were super ecstatic about the education that the kids were receiving and acceptance rates, the high, you know, amount of kids that were able to make it to college or were able to succeed in life through Success Academy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Sasha transferred to Success Academy at the beginning of third grade <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Immediately I was told about mouth bubble and the clip chart and the sitting on the, on the carpet. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Yeah. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: And sitting on your assigned color<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Criss cross applesauce. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Yep. Sitting on your assigned color. And I was like, it\u2019s just different. This is really different. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Take us through like, what is a mouth bubble? Describe it to us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: You take a deep breath, you, you breathe in, you try to catch all that air in your mouth because you literally take all the air that you have. You close your, you tight, your lips. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: And you tighten your lips.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: And you create a bubble with your cheeks. You look like a, a squirrel, essentially.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: I remembered my jaw being sore from holding my mouth in a bubble all day. Kids would try to make the perfect mouth bubble to impress the teachers. This and perfect posture were a sign of respect. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Sasha also said something about a clip chart? What\u2019s that? You guys speak in code at this school.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: About that.. Sasha will explain..<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: A clip chart essentially is, uh, it\u2019s a, a classic , you know, piece of cardboard. Um, and they paint on it. There\u2019s different colors. You have green, you\u2019d have yellow, you\u2019d have orange, the clip chart specifically, what makes it a clip chart is you have a clip, like you have one of those pinboard clips and you have your name on it, and you put that clip.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Well, I mean, I, when I got there, I remember I got to decorate, you get to decorate your clip, at least you got that privilege. But, you know, you put your clip, you, you do something bad, you get a, I remember there was at some point where, I guess it was like around finals testing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Okay<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Sometimes they would dictate it based off how you did on like a practice exam.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: it\u2019s one thing to do it, like, after class or do it in private, but no, you told me to get up in front of the whole class and walk to this clip chart and move my chart. And the thing is, is that with Success Academy kids, when we were kids, we were competitive, but we were, we weren\u2019t, like, harsh or mean or anything.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">You know, you\u2019re just kids, so you know, you\u2019re playing. \u201cOoh, you in trouble.\u201d Oh my gosh. Y- every time, \u201cOoh, you in trouble. You gotta move your chart.\u201d And usually when you move your clip chart, that mean they getting a me- you getting a message from ParentSquare. Your parents will be notified of your clip change, and I\u2019m just like, \u201cOh my gosh,\u201d like I already be knowing what be happening when I get home.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: at my school they had, like clip chart sheets that you were bringing to your parents where like the teacher can sign off and describe your behavior and basically give a reasoning as to why they gave you that color for the day. Like, a lot of times, like I remember my mom would get upset and she would just like rip up the red papers because the reasonings would be like things that were so little like, hey, like Jeremiah wasn\u2019t paying attention to me, so we put his chart on red. But then for me, like.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Every time, like I would, you know, go down the red, I would cry in certain things because it was an embarrassing moment. It wasn\u2019t something that you wanted to see, you know, like no one wants to see that<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: The school doesn\u2019t use clip charts any more. but now according to the 2025-2026 SA handbook they use a stoplight system. The handbook says quote \u201c Every day, scholars start on green. Throughout the day, if scholars are not following instructions, their color may be moved down to yellow or even red. We keep parents regularly informed about behavioral challenges students face in school and we ask for your support.\u201d end quote <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Sounds kinda clip chart-y to me <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: And then are you familiar with the like water fountain rule? I, I think it was 1, 2, 3.That\u2019s enough for me. Yeah. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: it was, yeah, definitely that<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: the teachers would say it, but then the, a lot of the people behind me would say because they wanted that water right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Do remember that, that phrase, that was a waterfront rule <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Success Academy, a big portion of its identity is its uniforms and how students come to school represented. Take us through like what the uniform means to you and how it is.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Even before you even get in the building, there -you either have your principal or you have your vice principal and they\u2019re standing outside of the door. They\u2019re holding the door open, but they are there to check to see if you are in full uniform.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Even in the freezing cold, they will tell you to zip down your coat. Let me make sure you have your tie and your blazer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Boy, girl, it does not matter. You have to have that tie on and you still have the option to wear a skirt or pants, depending, whatever your preference was. Um, but yeah, they were very cutthroat on them. Socks. I Have been sent home my junior year because I had on black socks, I had on black socks, but not Navy blue socks. Yeah, you have to have them and them shoes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Oh. They used to get on me for my shoes. They\u2019re all, they\u2019re all black, but they have a little white check mark.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: YEAH<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: If anybody that goes to my school knows me, they know about these sneakers. I wear these sneakers every day. Now my parents obviously are not, you know, they ain\u2019t the wealthiest, so, you know, I make do of what I got.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Right. So I got these shoes. I liked them. I was like, okay, cool. But the one problem, the one problem, it had a little white check. And they used to nitpick on me so bad for it. The principal himself came up to me and handed me a black roll of tape, and I was like, what is And he was like, for your, for your shoe.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: And I know you can hear me and Sasha laughing and joking about all the rules at Success Academy but some of the discipline.Wasn\u2019t a joke. At times, it felt like it we were being punished for just being kids.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">They also tried to balance the harsh discipline with special rewards. Like Fun Fridays<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: It\u2019s a fun Friday. It\u2019s like a, you lasted through weeks, so now you get your little Friday and advisory and there would be a shelf on your wall or you know, like on a little bookshelf where you had your little area where they had things from toys and you know, we had a bunch of little toys, trinkets, fidgets, all that type of stuff. And you know, you had, um, a system called Class Dojo where you would gain or lose points , depending on your behavior <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Fridays weren\u2019t so fun for everyone. If your clip wasn\u2019t high enough on the clip chart, or your points in class dojo weren\u2019t adding up. You would have to sit out while your friends ate pizza and sang their hearts out to Just Dance. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Think there was one time where I was highly upset. Mm-hmm. I was, I was in trouble. I was in trouble for sure. I was in trouble and they told me that I couldn\u2019t participate in Fun Friday. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: That used to be the worst <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: So obviously I was sulking, yeah. I was sulking in the corner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">I think that that was when I was in the negative probably. \u2018cause obviously you can\u2019t spend no points. Yeah. So when you\u2019re in the negative, you\u2019re not allowed to participate in Fun Friday. Mm-hmm. That\u2019s just it. Like, you\u2019re not allowed<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: why do you think Success Academy was so strict with all the different rules, like mouth bubbles, clip charts, walking in a straight line, and all of that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: I feel like \u2026Even though I don\u2019t feel like the execution was appropriate for us at the age, at the ages that we were, I don\u2019t feel like the actions that they were taking were appropriate. But I do feel like they really do prepare us for the real world and what we would have to face out in the real world.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: What do you remember about test preparation culture at Success Academy?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Like, how did they prepare you? Do you feel like it was effective? What do you think?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Think? Mm, I do feel like it was effective, but it was very rigorous. So it definitely caused a lot of burnout before the test even started. Do I think taking tests over and over and over and over again was helpful? No. I don\u2019t feel like that part was helpful. I feel like it stressed us out and it burnt us out for the actual test,<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Success is known for its intense test prep culture. How else would they get those super high scores on state exams? <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: As much as, you know, like this conversation is more of like how it\u2019s affected us mentally, I could say, like, um, educationally success has benefited me way beyond that I, I even can think of now, right? So I can\u2019t, I graduated out of middle school with all my regents done, and I went to public school and everybody was looking at me like I was an alien.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">So I was like, oh, so this ain\u2019t normal. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: So eventually you transferred to my school So there had to be a conversation or something that happened where your parents were like, \u201cIt\u2019s time to go.\u201d So can you take us through that experience? What happened?<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Um, honestly, I kinda put my foot down on that one. I said, \u201cBaby, I\u2019m leaving.\u201d I don\u2019t know what y\u2019all think, but I think it\u2019s time for me to go. Not to even be that type of person, but I was literally coming home crying every day. I was really just sitting there, with my little bunk bed with my LED lights and I\u2019m like, \u201cI can\u2019t do this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">I ca- I can\u2019t do this for another, I can\u2019t do this for another five months. I just can\u2019t.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">And so I finally sat down my parents and I said, \u201cHonestly, I don\u2019t know where I go. I just don\u2019t wanna be here. It can\u2019t be here. I can\u2019t do this my senior year.\u201d But again, because I was so upset- Every day coming home, having to do the same cycle. Even on weekends, I just wanted to stay in bed. I didn\u2019t wanna go out, I didn\u2019t wanna go to the movies, I didn\u2019t wanna go shopping, I didn\u2019t wanna do nothing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: And even though Sasha and I both left Success Academy and are happier in our new school, Sasha felt conflicted like me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: in certain aspects I\u2019m grateful for like how they\u2019ve made me who I am as a person, but sometimes I be taking a step back and I\u2019m like, \u201cOof. Babe, that, that &#8230; Ooh, I\u2019m, I\u2019m a little damaged,\u201d like. Um, like sometimes I would talk to my parents and like, obviously every conversation with your parents, it\u2019s not gonna be a great one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">So you know, we\u2019re dis- we had a disagreement, and I kinda just shut down. Like I stopped talking and I was just looking at them. And it was like you\u2019re not gonna say anything? \u2018Cause obviously like you know how we\u2019re talking right now, I\u2019m a very verbal person. If something\u2019s wrong with me, I\u2019m gonna tell you.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">So I\u2019m just sitting there and I\u2019m just like not saying anything, and they\u2019re like, \u201cAre you okay?\u201d Like, \u201cYou\u2019re not gonna say anything? You don\u2019t agree, disagree?\u201d And I\u2019m just like, \u201cI don\u2019t know. That\u2019s&#8230;\u201d And I was just shutting down. And looking back on it- It definitely is like I, I had to deal with that from Success.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">When you got in trouble at Success or you\u2019re trying to talk to a teacher to change a grade or why you were late to class, it\u2019s never a conversation. It\u2019s a monologue. They\u2019re talking at you, they\u2019re not talking with you. So I feel like that aspect of it, , it definitely affected me,<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">I feel like there\u2019s obviously certain aspects of Success Academy where their intensity of certain things, it helps, but also it definitely did take away from my childhood, and actually, like, becoming my own person naturally. When, like, with going to Success Academy, you\u2019re, you\u2019re getting all these rules and all these things thrown at you and, you know, they kinda, they say that your grades don\u2019t define you, but they act like your grades do define you. So when you have that type of mindset growing up, it lowers your self-esteem. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: I\u2019m always someone who participates or raises my hand or says a lot. But then for me, I feel like I rescind it as easily as I give it because I feel like once a space makes it known that it\u2019s not appreciated that I\u2019m speaking up or saying certain things, I just fall all the way back because I have trauma behind that. I feel like growing up with Success Academy, it\u2019s been more so just, like, juggling with the emotions and how I\u2019m still, like, even at 18 years old, I\u2019m still processing my kindergarten through second grade experience.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: So thank you so much for joining us, Sasha today.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Sasha: Thank you Jeremiah, so much for the interview.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: So after all this, the clip charts, the mouth bubbles, why do parents keep sending their kids to Success Academy. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Honestly, to be real with you, I don\u2019t know either. But looking as a parent \u2013 a parents perspective. I would say a lot of parents send their kids to Success academy because of the image. They see kids structured in uniforms, behaving well, they\u2019re keeping quiet, they\u2019re doing their work, and their coming out with good grades. I think the parents especially are the ones drawn in by test scores because every parent wants tso see their student do well. And when the Success Academy scores are in the 90s and the average school nearby is in the 50s, which one are you going to choose \u2013 the one in the 90s or the one in the 50s? <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">If I were a parent, maybe I would trust that high test scores means my child would learn what they need to in order to be prepared for college, their career, or whatever comes next. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Yeah, speaking of college \u2013 I just saw that viral video of the first student to get into an Ivy league at her Success Academy Chapter. Let\u2019s watch it <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Clip: I have a very special announcement Our school has again made history on the college acceptance front. We have our first scholar to get accepted to an Ivy League school. (Cheers) <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: I feel like it was just very sweet like, on the announcements to hear whoever was just like, announcing it to the school and everything. Because not only did that really show support for the individual, it really like, enhanced I feel like, the community in there that aspect with everyone clapping for her because if I were in her shoes, I would be so happy for everyone clapping for me and everything just in that moment. cheering me on and just celebrating me in general. So I\u2019m sure she appreciated that. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Yeah, and everyone is just supporting her, which is super cool. I mean, having good college acceptances must be a major draw for families. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Definitely. One of their major selling points is that 100% of their graduating classes receive offers to a four-year college. And a majority of these students are accepted to selective schools. From the outside, it\u2019s pretty impressive, especially considering 65% of these students come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: It really speaks to this idea I\u2019ve heard about Success being a private school without the price tag. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Yeah. I really connected with Sasha on this idea. On one hand, we were set up to thrive academically by Success, but on the other hand, we both experienced some pretty intense emotional hardship as a result. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: I\u2019m really glad you got to talk about your similarities and I hope maybe other students who went to success or families thinking about sending their kids there found something useful in the conversation too. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Agreed. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Success Academy did not respond to our request for comment. <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: PS Weekly is a collaboration between the Bell and Chalkbeat made possible by generous support from the Pinkerton Foundation. Producers for this episode were me, Jeremiah Dickerson <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: And me, Noa Salas Adam <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Our senior producer for the show is Maria Robins Somerville, and our technical director is Jake Lummus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Our executive editors are Amy Zimmer and Taylor McGraw <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Jeremiah: Additional production and reporting support was provided by Mira Gordon, Sabrina DuQuesnay, Zana Halili, and Katelyn Melville, and our friends at Chalkbeat <\/p>\n<p class=\"default__StyledText-sc-1px4eze-0 egVxCn body-paragraph\">Noa: Music is from APM, and the jingle you heard at the beginning of the episode was created by the one and only Erica Huang. 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