{"id":35724,"date":"2025-11-11T03:25:06","date_gmt":"2025-11-11T03:25:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/35724\/"},"modified":"2025-11-11T03:25:06","modified_gmt":"2025-11-11T03:25:06","slug":"breaking-down-joe-schoens-hits-misses-after-giants-tenure-gets-new-life","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/35724\/","title":{"rendered":"Breaking down Joe Schoen&#8217;s hits, misses after Giants tenure gets new life"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Fans are loudly debating whether Brian Daboll or Joe Schoen deserves more blame for the Giants\u2019 current dysfunction. <\/p>\n<p>Daboll <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/11\/10\/sports\/giants-fire-brian-daboll-after-another-awful-meltdown\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">was fired on Monday<\/a>, while Schoen <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/11\/10\/sports\/joe-schoen-keeping-his-giants-job-with-coaching-search-on-tap\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">will keep his job and conduct the search<\/a> for the next head coach. <\/p>\n<p>Given that, let\u2019s take a look at Schoen\u2019s track record while leading the Giants:<\/p>\n<p>Hits<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Jaxson Dart<\/p>\n<p>Schoen aggressively traded back up into the first round to draft Dart with the No. 25 pick in April, and Dart has quickly looked capable of being the franchise quarterback. <\/p>\n<p>Schoen sent the No. 34 pick, No. 99 pick and a 2026 third-rounder to the Texans in the move. <\/p>\n<p>Dart\u2019s stature as a prospect had mixed reviews coming out of college, but if there were to be a redraft, he\u2019d likely be the No. 1 pick.<\/p>\n<p>Trading for and signing Brian Burns<\/p>\n<p>In the 2024 offseason, Schoen sent a 2024 second-rounder and fifth-rounder and 2025 fifth-rounder to the Panthers, with Burns set to enter the last year of his contract. <\/p>\n<p>Immediately after the trade, the Giants gave Burns a five-year, $150 million extension.<\/p>\n<p>Bears quarterback Caleb Williams (18) avoids the sack by New York Giants linebacker Brian Burns (0) during the second half at Soldier Field. IMAGN IMAGES via Reuters Connect<\/p>\n<p>Burns had a strong first season with the Giants, and this year <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/11\/06\/sports\/brian-burns-is-tenacious-beast-no-matter-the-giants-record\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">has emerged as an elite edge defender<\/a>, leading the league with 11 sacks. <\/p>\n<p>He is also second in the league with 15 tackles for loss.<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Malik Nabers<\/p>\n<p>It didn\u2019t take a rocket scientist to project stardom for Nabers. <\/p>\n<p>Before he <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/10\/28\/sports\/giants-malik-nabers-finally-has-surgery-month-after-tearing-acl\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">tore his ACL this year<\/a>, he was well on his way to cementing himself as a top five receiver in the league. <\/p>\n<p>Follow The Post\u2019s latest on the Giants firing head coach Brian Daboll:<\/p>\n<p>Schoen passed on quarterbacks Michael Penix Jr. and J.J. McCarthy, who have struggled in the NFL. <\/p>\n<p>The only player taken after Nabers who could cause regret is Bo Nix, but Dart should quell that sentiment.<\/p>\n<p>Signing Jermaine Eluemunor<\/p>\n<p>Bringing him in on a two-year, $14 million deal was good value, as he\u2019s emerged as an above-average right tackle. <\/p>\n<p>But now Schoen will have to decide whether to give him a big contract this offseason.<\/p>\n<p>Misses<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Evan Neal<\/p>\n<p>Drafted with the No. 7 pick in 2022, he has been unplayably bad. <\/p>\n<p>Through 10 games this year, he\u2019s been a healthy scratch nine times and did not play a single snap the one game he suited up. <\/p>\n<p>Evan Neal is pictured during the Giants\u2019 Oct. 25 practice. Charles Wenzelberg<\/p>\n<p>The hope he could transition from tackle to guard was a failure.<\/p>\n<p>Trading up and drafting Deonte Banks<\/p>\n<p>Schoen gave up a 2023 fifth- and seventh-round pick to move up one spot \u2014 from No. 25 to No. 24 \u2014 to draft the cornerback. <\/p>\n<p>But he has been brutal and lost his starting job this year, only seeing action when those ahead of him are hurt.<\/p>\n<p>And when that happens, he is hard to watch.<\/p>\n<p>Trading up and drafting Jalin Hyatt<\/p>\n<p>Another player Schoen traded up to draft, giving up a 2023 third- and fourth-rounder to move up in the third round and take the speedy receiver. <\/p>\n<p>But he has failed to make an impact, with 452 career receiving yards \u2014 the vast majority of which came as a rookie \u2014 and no touchdowns. <\/p>\n<p>This year, he\u2019s completely fallen out of the game plan.<\/p>\n<p>Daniel Jones contract<\/p>\n<p>Yes, Jones is now thriving with the Colts.<\/p>\n<p>But he was a disaster immediately after Schoen gave him a four-year, $160 million deal \u2014 and was cut by the second season of it.<\/p>\n<p>Saquon Barkley debacle<\/p>\n<p>Schoen and Barkley could never find an agreement on his value, and it culminated in Barkley leaving in free agency last year, signing with the Eagles and playing a central role in the bitter rivals winning the Super Bowl.<\/p>\n<p>Saquon Barkley scores a touchdown during the Eagles\u2019 Oct. 26 win over the Giants. IMAGN IMAGES via Reuters Connect<\/p>\n<p>Xavier McKinney decision<\/p>\n<p>Schoen let McKinney walk in free agency last year. <\/p>\n<p>After signing with the Packers, he was named a First-Team All-Pro and is enjoying a stellar season again this year.<\/p>\n<p>Julian Love decision<\/p>\n<p>Another safety Schoen let walk, this time back in 2022 in one of his first decisions, Love was a Pro Bowler the next year with the Seahawks and has since been a reliable starter.<\/p>\n<p>Somewhere in between<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Kayvon Thibodeaux<\/p>\n<p>Taken with the No. 5 pick in 2022, he has certainly not been a big hit. <\/p>\n<p>Joe Schoen addresses reporters during his Aug. 27 press conference. Charles Wenzelberg<\/p>\n<p>But it is probably not fair to call him a miss, as an above-average edge.<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Tyrone Tracy Jr.<\/p>\n<p>A fifth-round pick last year, he recorded 1,123 scrimmage yards and six total touchdowns as a rookie. <\/p>\n<p>But he lost his starting job this year and looks like a shell of himself.<\/p>\n<p>To be determined<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Abdul Carter<\/p>\n<p>He has shown flashes, but Carter has not yet been the game-wrecker the Giants hoped he would be when Schoen drafted him at No. 3 this past April.<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Cam Skattebo<\/p>\n<p>A fourth-round pick in April, he quickly became a fan favorite and emerged as a spark plug.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\tGo behind the scenes with Big Blue\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p class=\"inline-module__cta\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSign up for Inside the Giants by Paul Schwartz, a weekly Sports+ exclusive.\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\tThank you\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>But after his <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2025\/10\/29\/sports\/cam-skattebos-gruesome-giants-injury-was-even-worse-than-it-looked\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">gruesome ankle injury<\/a>, have we already seen the best of him?<\/p>\n<p>Drafting Tyler Nubin, Dru Phillips<\/p>\n<p>Second- and third-round picks last year, they both showed promise as rookies before completely regressing this year. <\/p>\n<p>Could a better defensive coordinator get more out of them?<\/p>\n<p>Signing Paulson Adebo, Jev\u00f3n Holland<\/p>\n<p>Both signed this past offseason to revamp the secondary, they\u2019ve dealt with injuries. <\/p>\n<p>But when healthy, they haven\u2019t exactly created a shutdown unit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Fans are loudly debating whether Brian Daboll or Joe Schoen deserves more blame for the Giants\u2019 current dysfunction.&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":35725,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[19888,4507,4086,3923,12336,21019,21020,12144,3917,21021,19884,4509,3920,9,24,55,54,2683,22,56,3924,319],"class_list":{"0":"post-35724","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-new-york-city","8":"tag-abdul-carter","9":"tag-brian-burns","10":"tag-brian-daboll","11":"tag-cam-skattebo","12":"tag-daniel-jones","13":"tag-deonte-banks","14":"tag-evan-neal","15":"tag-jalin-hyatt","16":"tag-jaxson-dart","17":"tag-jermaine-eluemenor","18":"tag-joe-schoen","19":"tag-kayvon-thibodeaux","20":"tag-malik-nabers","21":"tag-new-york","22":"tag-new-york-city","23":"tag-new-york-city-headlines","24":"tag-new-york-city-news","25":"tag-new-york-giants","26":"tag-nfl","27":"tag-ny","28":"tag-saquon-barkley","29":"tag-sports"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35724","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35724"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35724\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35725"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35724"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35724"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/us-ny\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35724"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}